neither calvin or luther or spurgeon or henry or augustine or popes or preachers today know that Psalm 119 is Messiah Yahshua's prayer for life

[Nehemiah6]

Psalm 119 being Yahshua's prayer for life is the key to understanding Scripture and nearly no one knows that.

Wow! A UNIQUE discovery! But clearly mistaken. Can you imagine the Lord Jesus Christ actually praying this?
Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. (Psalm 119:11) That would be a pathetic Savior!

Your vain attempts to deceive others should be dismissed out of hand.

 

[evyaniy]

thank you for the bump to the top and the additional views it garnered.

verse 119:11 is 911 forwards and backwards. how awesome is that?

Actually that He says He hid the Word in His heart so He would not sin against the Father sounds exactly like Him and the amazing Savior He is. It also reveals one of the principles of how He remained obedient all the way to the point of death on the cross to save us as the law and statutes and precepts and commandments required of Him.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Wow! A UNIQUE discovery! But clearly mistaken. Can you imagine the Lord Jesus Christ actually praying this?
Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. (Psalm 119:11) That would be a pathetic Savior!

Your vain attempts to deceive others should be dismissed out of hand.

You make a valid argument, thank you for catching this.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

thank you for the bump to the top and the additional views it garnered.

verse 119:11 is 911 forwards and backwards. how awesome is that?

Actually that He says He hid the Word in His heart so He would not sin against the Father sounds exactly like Him and the amazing Savior He is. It also reveals one of the principles of how He remained obedient all the way to the point of death on the cross to save us as the law and statutes and precepts and commandments required of Him.

I have been reading more of the psalms and I think you might be wrong, what you propose might fit with a few verses but some not, there is not enogh consistency in my opinion to conclude that what you propose is correct. It does not change the fact however that these psalms are wonderful.

Blessings.

 

[evyaniy]

It's a strange thing how students of Scripture are so resistant to accepting that Psalm 119 is the Son's prayer for life because of His obedience to the law in giving His life as a Sacrifice for our sins to save us. No matter how much evidence is in the Psalm proving it is His prayer, people ignore all that and look for any loophole try to disprove the fact.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

It's a strange thing how students of Scripture are so resistant to accepting that Psalm 119 is the Son's prayer for life because of His obedience to the law in giving His life as a Sacrifice for our sins to save us. No matter how much evidence is in the Psalm proving it is His prayer, people ignore all that and look for any loophole try to disprove the fact.

I will analyze, I am good at this being doing it all my life, I will verify translations and verses to see if it fits or not but so far probably not.

Blessings.

 

[evyaniy]

I have been reading more of the psalms and I think you might be wrong, what you propose might fit with a few verses but some not, there is not enogh consistency in my opinion to conclude that what you propose is correct. It does not change the fact however that these psalms are wonderful.

Blessings.

well the verdict is in again. it's not like others have not played along for a while and then declared their verdict with no supporting evidence that stands up. no big deal. it is expected. it is sealed after all. can't argue that. no hard feelings to anyone either. at least folks are not calling out heretic and blasphemer to the fanciful notion that Psalm 119 is the Son's prayer. That's progress.

all that matters is what the Son and Father thinks about what was presented. Either it is correct or wrong which They would certainly know.

 

[ResidentAlien]

"And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, 'May we know what this new doctrine is of which you speak? For you are bringing some strange things to our ears. Therefore we want to know what these things mean.' For all the Athenians and the foreigners who were there spent their time in nothing else but either to tell or to hear some new thing." Acts 17:19-21

 

[evyaniy]

besides, it is a big well respected group of believers who did not get it either. who would not want to be in the ranks of cal and luthy and spurgy and henry and auggy and all the pops and preachies who never saw it. using their nicknames since we will be buds in the Kingdom one day. trying to get them out of the embarrassment of their oversight all those centuries. no disrespect intended. can't overcome a good sealing.

 

[evyaniy]

On another note, verse 119:11 (that's 911 backwards and forwards) is like huge proof it is the Son praying Psalm 119. It is actually an amazing revelation about Him. Don't even understand why it was brought up. But as it has been all through this saga, many times the verses dissenters present to oppose the notion end up being more evidence Psalm 119 is indeed the Son praying. It is as if a hidden hand is leading the discussion. will have to look into the Hebrew for 119:11 and dig a little deeper since He often reveals more hidden nuggets of proof in the verses brought forward.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

well the verdict is in again. it's not like others have not played along for a while and then declared their verdict with no supporting evidence that stands up. no big deal. it is expected. it is sealed after all. can't argue that. no hard feelings to anyone either. at least folks are not calling out heretic and blasphemer to the fanciful notion that Psalm 119 is the Son's prayer. That's progress.

all that matters is what the Son and Father thinks about what was presented. Either it is correct or wrong which They would certainly know.

I have just started reading the psalms 119 in french ( my mother tongue ) with 2 excellent translations from Hebrew, I am sorry to say your theory does not hold, I see it clearly now.

Blessings.

 

[Michael68]

besides, it is a big well respected group of believers who did not get it either. who would not want to be in the ranks of cal and luthy and spurgy and henry and auggy and all the pops and preachies who never saw it. using their nicknames since we will be buds in the Kingdom one day. trying to get them out of the embarrassment of their oversight all those centuries. no disrespect intended. can't overcome a good sealing.

CC is fortunate indeed to have someone such as yourself to guide them. But don't you think its a bit unfair? Those big name preachers you mention who didnt get it, were out in the world preaching to large flocks, whereas, you being more gifted in knowledge than them are languishing on internet debating websites.

 

[evyaniy]

uhhhh, isn't the internets supposed to have further reach. thought that was one of the points of it. no offence meant to any of the preachies of the past who did not have it and had to use stumps.

 

[evyaniy]

I have just started reading the psalms 119 in french ( my mother tongue ) with 2 excellent translations from Hebrew, I am sorry to say your theory does not hold, I see it clearly now.

Blessings.

the Hebrew is all that counts. the rest are translations which are subject to error.

 

[evyaniy]

gotta love those verdicts with no supporting evidence to look at. at least someone qualified to cast a verdict took the time to do so.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

Sometimes i read threads like this one and wonder if its a troll or they just like to make a joke of our faith.
I just dont understand how a person can read a passage of anything and have so much zeal for such an obvious misuderstanding of the text.

 

[evyaniy]

an obvious misuderstanding of the text.

another verdict on the notion with no supporting evidence from the "text." a whole lot of textual evidence was presented repeatedly in many threads to prove Psalm 119 is the Son's prayer for life and to be raised from the dead because of His obedience to the law in giving His life to save us. Every plausible objection was responded to and proven unfounded from the text and original Hebrew language.

 

[Nehemiah6]

from the text and original Hebrew language.

The translation has not deviated from the text, but you have deviated from sound doctrine to promote a private opinion. Now get back on track.

 

[evyaniy]

Let's look at the whole stanza for Beth which contains verse 119:11 (that's 911 forwards and backwards)

(comments in parens after the line)

BETH
9 How can a young Man keep His way pure?
By living according to Your word.
(the Son wanted to remain pure by living according to His Father's Word)
10 With My whole heart I have sought You.
(the Son sought His Father with His whole heart)
Don’t let Me wander from Your commandments.
(the Son depends on His Father to keep Him from wandering from His commandments)
11 I have hidden Your word in My heart,
(The Son hid His Father's word in His heart. He took it to heart)
that I might not sin against You.
(so that He would not sin against His Father)
12 Blessed are You, YHVH.
(the Son praises His Father)
Teach Me Your statutes.
(the Son asks His Father to teach Him His statutes)
13 With My lips,
I have declared all the ordinances of Your mouth.
(the Son taught the people the Father's words and ordinances)
14 I have rejoiced in the way of Your testimonies,
(the Son rejoices in the Father's testimonies recorded in Scripture)
as much as in all riches.
15 I will meditate on Your precepts,
(the Son meditates on His Father's precepts)
and consider Your ways.
(the Son considers His Father's ways which eventually required Him to give His life on the cross to save us)
16 I will delight Myself in Your statutes.
(the Son delights in His Father's will and plans)
I will not forget Your word.
(the Son will be obedient and trusted His Father's word and promise that He would be raised to life again after offering His life to save us, as the word and the law required of Him.)

An amazing Savior and prayer from Him to His Father through that entire stanza that reveals so much. How anyone can refute that the Son is praying these verses is incomprehensible. No one else but Him could pray what He prays here.

Thanks for pointing out 119:11 which is more irrefutable proof it is the Son praying and revealing to us how He accomplished our Salvation by obeying His Father.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Let's look at the whole stanza for Beth which contains verse 119:11 (that's 911 forwards and backwards)

(comments in parens after the line)

BETH
9 How can a young Man keep His way pure?
By living according to Your word.
(the Son wanted to remain pure by living according to His Father's Word)
10 With My whole heart I have sought You.
(the Son sought His Father with His whole heart)
Don’t let Me wander from Your commandments.
(the Son depends on His Father to keep Him from wandering from His commandments)
11 I have hidden Your word in My heart,
(The Son hid His Father's word in His heart. He took it to heart)
that I might not sin against You.
(so that He would not sin against His Father)
12 Blessed are You, YHVH.
(the Son praises His Father)
Teach Me Your statutes.
(the Son asks His Father to teach Him His statutes)
13 With My lips,
I have declared all the ordinances of Your mouth.
(the Son taught the people the Father's words and ordinances)
14 I have rejoiced in the way of Your testimonies,
(the Son rejoices in the Father's testimonies recorded in Scripture)
as much as in all riches.
15 I will meditate on Your precepts,
(the Son meditates on His Father's precepts)
and consider Your ways.
(the Son considers His Father's ways which eventually required Him to give His life on the cross to save us)
16 I will delight Myself in Your statutes.
(the Son delights in His Father's will and plans)
I will not forget Your word.
(the Son will be obedient and trusted His Father's word and promise that He would be raised to life again after offering His life to save us, as the word and the law required of Him.)

An amazing Savior and prayer from Him to His Father through that entire stanza that reveals so much. How anyone can refute that the Son is praying these verses is incomprehensible. No one else but Him could pray what He prays here.

Thanks for pointing out 119:11 which is more irrefutable proof it is the Son praying and revealing to us how He accomplished our Salvation by obeying His Father.

Listen,

Jesus the son of GOD and GOD himself are One and gave us the law, Why would Jesus pray his father to teach him his statutes and law? Jesus the WORD gave us the law, commandments and everything else! Now read psalm 119 with this in mind and you will realize you were simply mistaken, there is no harm done unless you persist in this false interpretation.

Blessings.