Ukraine the bad guy?

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cv5

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Sure, the whole world will be plunged into nuclear war at some stage. Most people will die. God foretelling an event does not mean that what we see now is that event. Luther was convinced that the Pope was the antichrist. Many thought that the murder of 6 million Jews was the Great Tribulation. If you were a Jew in Europe in Hitler's time, then life was as bad as it gets.

I refuse to get into the last days symbolism. I don't know who Gog and Magog are. Judgement takes many forms. The forest fires in Canada, Portugal and Spain, typhoons in the South China sea, intolerable heat waves in the US and Middle East are all part of God's judgement in my view. One day, America will be hit by a massive earthquake or Yellowstone park will erupt. Or both. There is also what I call the "Ninevah effect". Right now, many are turning to Christ. Perhaps God will spare the world His severest judgement for now. I'm no Jonah and I won't be upset if the world repents and turns to Christ. I'm also not confident that there will be a world wide revival, in spite of supposed prophecies to that effect. We will see.
One more thought:

Those with vague insipid notions of Biblical prophecy tend to attend vague insipid Churches.
 

JohnDB

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Ukraine is a corrupt nation with verified Nazis in their military. Putin is doing the Lord’s work. Bless him.
Russia has verified Nazis in their ranks as well. And Russians in general tend to be more racist and Marxist leaning than Ukranians.

Ukraine's nazis are more known about than Russia's because Ukraine has freedom of speech....Russia does not.
 

JohnDB

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Sure, the whole world will be plunged into nuclear war at some stage
Any sort of nuclear missile exchange doesn't mean that the whole world's population is instantly dead. There will be survivors if we got into an exchange with Russia and/or China.
 

Gideon300

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Any sort of nuclear missile exchange doesn't mean that the whole world's population is instantly dead. There will be survivors if we got into an exchange with Russia and/or China.
Yes, however, the survivors may wish that they had not. A small part of my military training was to do with nuclear war. The survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were like zombies after the bombs were dropped. And they were tiny compared to what could be delivered now.

One of the problems is that nuclear war will not be limited. That's the deterrent of course. Radioactivity will not be a major problem as long as the bombs do not hit the ground. The weapons will mostly pre-programmed with targeting information.

The unknown in this scenario is the minor players such as Iran (eventually), India, Pakistan and North Korea. If Pakistan collapses, as it could, Muslim fanatics could end up with nukes. That would be no fun at all, especially if you are Israeli.
 

Fundaamental

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Russia has verified Nazis in their ranks as well. And Russians in general tend to be more racist and Marxist leaning than Ukranians.

Ukraine's nazis are more known about than Russia's because Ukraine has freedom of speech....Russia does not.
so both russia and Ukraine have verified Nazis, is there any country that doesn't have verified Nazis, or are some countries excluded from this in your book.

If they both have verified Nazis which country is the lesser of two evils.

Seeing as you've already dismissed my views as insane regarding the whole word being ruled by a Nazi dictatorship. I thought you may have verified answers to this too.
 

JohnDB

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Yes, however, the survivors may wish that they had not. A small part of my military training was to do with nuclear war. The survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were like zombies after the bombs were dropped. And they were tiny compared to what could be delivered now.

One of the problems is that nuclear war will not be limited. That's the deterrent of course. Radioactivity will not be a major problem as long as the bombs do not hit the ground. The weapons will mostly pre-programmed with targeting information.

The unknown in this scenario is the minor players such as Iran (eventually), India, Pakistan and North Korea. If Pakistan collapses, as it could, Muslim fanatics could end up with nukes. That would be no fun at all, especially if you are Israeli.
A lot of our anti-missile technology is developed in Israel....just saying.

And radioactivity is going to be a huge concern....especially for the first couple of weeks.
Bombs are detonated according to size above the ground to maximize the blast radius. The bigger the bomb the higher off the ground its detonated.

There's a bunch of simulators....try one out. You'll see what I'm talking about.
 

cv5

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Yes, but this is just the Spring counteroffensive and the Summer counteroffiensive, what about the Fall counteroffensive?
Something like 500-700 dead Ukrainians for every square mile taken. Not to mention the land mine lifetime cripples.
 

ZNP

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Something like 500-700 dead Ukrainians for every square mile taken. Not to mention the land mine lifetime cripples.
About one dead person for every acre.
 

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BIG PRAISE JESUS! Wicked Russian government finally officially admits their true death toll and casualty figures! They are closer to what God has been saying through us this whole time and significantly higher than even USA globalistards and valiant Ukraine have been estimating (though Ukraine was closest by reason they based their count off what they could record in the field).. ALMOST 300,000 DEAD SATANIC RUSSIAN SOLDIERS! Jesus will break the Principality of Darkness of Wicked Russia and save the valiant Ukrainians, he already is mighty and powerful! Keep in mind Ukraine has taken steep losses at about 50,000 valiant heroes killed, but they are strengthened by God and holding strong outpacing Russia casualties nearly 6 to 1! Exhort to endure all faithful lovers of God, fear and tremble oh defenders of the wicked, we will continue to PRAISE JESUS!

 

JohnDB

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trying to explain this to the crowd that is totally sold out to the anti-russia propaganda that the media here in america puts out is like trying to talk to a 12 year old who has his fingers in his ears going " lalalala"...
Did it ever occur to you that you might possibly be wrong?

I understand that the MSM is usually wrong and anything that they support is usually the wrong side.

But know that the MOST difficult thing for people to do is admit they were wrong.