Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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iamsoandso

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I think the issue with the debate is that everyone has to agree to support the eventual nominee. Remove that stipulation and I suspect he would be there.

Everyone seems to look at and react to who Trump attacks on Twitter and reacts accordingly not many look for the ones he avoids.
 

iamsoandso

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I would be interested to know who Pence's donors are and how much support and from where after he started banging on Trump.
Same for Christie, who btw was the one who suggested Wray and still supports him.

Koch brothers, Pence had stronger ties to them than Trump did which is why Trump approached Pence as his running mate...
 

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Perhaps somebody should start a thread called "What could Biden do to make you like him?"..:)

For a start he could slap a ban on Iran's nuclear weapon ambitions.
He overturned Trump's ban and has given them permission to go ahead, so perhaps we should be getting a bad feeling about that?

 
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Oh no the death nell to all fluffy kittens is to sign a document and to agree to side with any agreements to not pollute the the planet they live on. now go figure who on earth would specifically seek out a running mate based on this one criteria? https://www.desmog.com/2017/10/20/5...not-included-jane-mayer-s-new-yorker-article/

Thanks but that article is a bit too long for me to digest. Does it mean Pence and the Koch's are good for the planet or not?
(I've never heard of the Kochs)
PS- will Pence be running for the Presidency? He always seemed like a regular decent chap during his vice-presidency, totally loyal to Trump.
 

iamsoandso

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Perhaps somebody should start a thread called "What could Biden do to make you like him?"..:)

For a start he could slap a ban on Iran's nuclear weapon ambitions.
He overturned Trump's ban and has given them permission to go ahead, so perhaps we should be getting a bad feeling about that?


lol, Biden skeers me he might make it legal to marry our pet's, have three or four spouses at once or apply for government funding to get surgery to convert ourselves to an animal or something....
 

iamsoandso

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Thanks but that article is a bit too long for me to digest. Does it mean Pence and the Koch's are good for the planet or not?
(I've never heard of the Kochs)
PS- will Pence be running for the Presidency?

Who's Pence?
 
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If I vote it'll be for Pence. Has a good head on his shoulders.
Yeah, Pence and Trump were singing from the same song sheet for 4 years, he was always there alongside Don agreeing with everything Don said, like when Don gave the Klingons, Romulans and the Borg fair warning not to mess with mother earth..:)

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If Americans had voted Economics graduate Don in for a second term they'd probably be as rich as him by now..:)

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Go right ahead, no one's stopping you.

I'm a Brit so some people might think it's not my place to start a thread here criticising US politicians.
Trump is okay so I don't mind heaping praise on him, especially as he's half-British..:)
In fact Churchill was half-American, so it seems that when US and Brit genes get together, giants are born.
PS- 26 Brits died at the Alamo-

ALAMO DEFENDERS- 115 total included- 26 Brits- (12 English/ 10 Irish/ 4 Scots/ 2 German/ 1 French http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alamo_defenders

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PennEd

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I think It's an embarrassment to not see h o w unfit Donald Trump Is for guiding and leading the United States and h o w dangerous It Is for America.I don't like what the democrats stand for but Donald Trump might ruin America If he becomes president.

Really do you want your children looking up to an unGODly man like that?

BTW,he(Donald Trump)told Mike Pence that he(Mike) was too honest.W O W.
You have COMPLETELY ignored the most vital part of my post.

REGARDLESS of how you, or anyone feels one way or the other about Trump, Biden, and more specifically his handlers, and the Democrats, are using fascistic tactics to quash their main political rival!

This is exactly what authoritarian dictators like Adolph H. has done over and over.

Here's Trump's tweet from yesterday. LOOK, OPEN your eyes and see, he is exactly right in what he is saying. What legal authority will go after the democrats who committed this crime?
PLEASE answer that.


President Trump: So now that I have full Subpoena Power because of the Freedom of Speech Sham Indictment by Crooked Joe Biden, Deranged Jack Smith, and the DOJ, it has just been reported that the Unselect January 6th Committee of Political Hacks and Thugs has illegally destroyed their Records and Documents. This is unthinkable, and the Fake Political Indictment against me must be immediately withdrawn. The system is Rigged & Corrupt, very much like the Presidential Election of 2020. We are a Nation in Decline!
 

PennEd

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Trump needs to realize that even a little video gamer can make a name and get millions of followers(recent news).. Trump needs to face Pence face to face at the debate unless he feels more comfortable just posting on Twitter. "#Trump show up and face the guy who knows the same dirt as you"....
I'm not positive, but the GOP base is so nauseated by Pence, that I don't think he qualified to meet the threshold to even be at the debate.
 

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I'm not positive, but the GOP base is so nauseated by Pence, that I don't think he qualified to meet the threshold to even be at the debate.
It is absurd for someone polling at 50% or higher with voters to have to debate someone polling at 1-2%. Especially since both people are known quantities.
 

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/breaking-president-trump-reveals-dirty-jan-6-committee/

President Trump: So now that I have full Subpoena Power because of the Freedom of Speech Sham Indictment by Crooked Joe Biden, Deranged Jack Smith, and the DOJ, it has just been reported that the Unselect January 6th Committee of Political Hacks and Thugs has illegally destroyed their Records and Documents. This is unthinkable, and the Fake Political Indictment against me must be immediately withdrawn. The system is Rigged & Corrupt, very much like the Presidential Election of 2020. We are a Nation in Decline!
 

Smoke

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He does not need to ask me for forgiveness. There is no reason why he should do this on the news or with a press release. I have heard from his ex wife and she has nothing negative to say. His children have nothing negative to say. I have never known a "serial adulterer" where that is the case. Besides, think of the hypocrisy. Joe and Jill started out in an adulterous affair. Read about that relationship and anything Trump has done pales in comparison.
I would only agree that he doesn't need to seek forgiveness from the people for what he did. That isn't the question or the focal point though. He was asked if he has EVER asked for forgiveness from God for anything he has done. It's one thing to not answer or even to say "that's none of your business", but he didn't say that. He explicitly answered the question stating he has never asked God for forgiveness.



Again the hypocrisy here is off the charts. Joe Biden is attracted to every six year old girl he sees, had a very close relationship with both Obama and the Clintons and is a FreeMason.
It's not hypocrisy when we are discussing amongst fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. What you're attempting to do is called "whataboutism". Two things can be true and both be terrible: "Biden is a creep who loves to sniff little girls" and "Trump is an unrepentant serial adulterer". It's never a good tactic to resort to "whataboutism" to exonerate or defend someone. "Sure I murdered 10 people... but Hitler killed millions of Jews."

This is my point, the things people take offense at are idiotic. Epstein meets him a few times till he figures out who the guy is and shuns him, yet you would vote for Hillary or Biden? Some rich mogul from Hollywood supports Trump so you would instead choose Hillary or Biden who are extremely close with all of Hollywood?
Fake news. He was friends and partied with Epstein for years... until they had a personal feud over some property. Now what you're attempting to do is give a false choice between two flawed candidates. Trump was the lesser evil in 2016 and 2020... That's like saying, "I'm voting for Adolf Hitler over Mao Zedong because he is only responsible for about 6 million deaths as oppose to 40-60 million lives." Why make it a false choice when you can choose an alternate candidate (DeSantis perhaps...)?

[Side note: I am not comparing Trump to Hitler or Mao Zedong... I'm dismantling your reasoning/argument for why you would pick a flawed candidate over another flawed candidate when there is an option for a candidate with none of that baggage. ]
 

Smoke

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Why would you ask ResidentAlien to speak for Trump voters?

My understanding is that Mike Pence is something quite heinous. I won't say it because it is slanderous without very strong proof. I do have personal testimonies, but don't know if they would hold up in court.
Because he advocates for Pence... I'm going to assume he has had many a Trump supporter list reasons why they think he is a bad candidate.

The silly part is that while I agree with most Trump supporters for not being in favor of Pence being the nominee if he decides to run... we get to that conclusion for different reasons. The reasons I hear from Trump supporters is that they "heard" things about him with nothing to substantiate the claims. The other reasons I hear is that he was a coward on Jan. 6th and betrayed Trump. I'm assuming the "betrayal" they are referencing was not rejecting electoral college votes.