Maui Fire

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Edify

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Noteall those "GREEN" trees in the video. Now search for the California fires & you'll find green trees all over the place.
 

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Pleas notices at 13:18 that items that are BLUE don't get touched at all!
Umbrellas not even scorched. Blue cars undamaged except for their bumpers. Trees standing with no scorching. A blue plastic cooler in a corner of the property.
This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's the real deal.
Oh, yeah, let's not forget that most of Hawaii is a tropical paradise with no known droughts in their history.
Please fact-check me on the last statement, cause I've never seen anything on nat'l news before about it.
 
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Food for thought- Hawaii is a blue Biden-supporting antichrist state, so perhaps God is punishing them for not voting for Don?..;)
"The Lord will lay waste the earth and devastate it. It is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant.. " (Isaiah ch 24)
PS- California will get hit sooner or later when San Andreas lets one rip..:)


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Edify

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Maybe now we know what Pres. Reagan's Star Wars program is really about.:rolleyes:
 

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Food for thought- Hawaii is a blue Biden-supporting antichrist state, so perhaps God is punishing them for not voting for Don?..;)
"The Lord will lay waste the earth and devastate it. It is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant.. " (Isaiah ch 24)
PS- California will get hit sooner or later when San Andreas lets one rip..:)


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Watch the video, it shows that a laser will burn through any colored cloth except for blue.
 

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I think the part everyone is missing is that in most towns in the US they have 1,2 3, fire departments depending on the population. It boiled down to a simple math equation where if a house caught on fire you have a fire station respond. If two houses catch on fire you call another fire station to respond. So do the math if the wind is blowing at 40 miles an hour and 300 houses and structures catch on fire then you need at least 300 fire stations to respond and there were not 300 fire departments on Maui. Past that everyone's just letting their imagination get the best of them.

There's more information now with eye witness interviews and video footage.
The way it was handled was beyond reproach. A lot of people died that should have been alive today. 🥺
 
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HealthAndHappiness

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Same thing happened with the Grenfell tower block fire in London a few years ago, the fire brigade advised people to stay inside and 74 died-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire
That is incredible. I do believe it however. What a shame. That reminds me of the interviews with the 9//, 2001 world trade center towers survivors. After the jets crashed you'd expect everyone to be told to evacuate immediately. No, the announcements were for everyone to remain in their offices.
One of the heros was the custodian who had keys for the locked stairwells. He ran up the stairs and got a lot of people out and the firefighters in. The only ones who survived were fed judges and special employees who were called and told to not go in to work that day. The rest were those who disobeyed the orders to stay in their offices, who left right away before the demolition. Three of the buildings on that block were demolished the same way that day,. including building #7 across the intersection. The owner Silverstein was interviewed about the demolition and they were prepped for that well in advance to the plane crashes.

Here's an expert on the subject who covers building 7. It's the first in a three part series of classes . WTC Building 7
 
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Food for thought- some news reports suggest that some wildfires in Hawaii, the US and anywhere else in recent years up to now were started deliberately, and there may be some truth in that-

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ZNP

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Yep your beginning to figure it out several hundred structures were burning, cpcv water pipes burn and so water sprayed out everywhere from them and everyone whose homes weren't on fire already were all trying to wet their homes down at the same time that's a good example of why there was low water pressure. Do we really need to point a finger at someone or should we just say the poor people were caught in a freak set of circumstances and pray to Jesus for them?
That was a very plausible theory, the storm blew down a power line and started the fire. But that has just turned into a tin foil hat theory, the power company revealed today that they shut off the power 6 hours before the fire started.

Hawaiian Electric Denies Maui Lawsuit Claims About Cause of Wildfire, Shares Surge



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https://www.usnews.com/news/top-new...s-maui-countys-wildfire-lawsuit-irresponsible
 
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Hawaii is a predominantly blue Biden-voting state, so perhaps God decided to dish out some of what he gave Sodom/Gomorrah as punishment?..;)

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That was a very plausible theory, the storm blew down a power line and started the fire. But that has just turned into a tin foil hat theory, the power company revealed today that they shut off the power 6 hours before the fire started.

Hawaiian Electric Denies Maui Lawsuit Claims About Cause of Wildfire, Shares Surge



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Aug. 28, 2023, at 4:23 a.m.
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https://www.usnews.com/news/top-new...s-maui-countys-wildfire-lawsuit-irresponsible

I don't really see your point so I searched all five pages to see if I even used the words "electric",,,"electricity",,,"power","power line" ect. ect. I thought maybe I did and forgot? I use Linux so I can just do a word search and it will look for any word I type in on any page,,,Your who used those words.
 

ZNP

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I don't really see your point so I searched all five pages to see if I even used the words "electric",,,"electricity",,,"power","power line" ect. ect. I thought maybe I did and forgot? I use Linux so I can just do a word search and it will look for any word I type in on any page,,,Your who used those words.
My point is when the fire happened it seemed reasonable to think it was simply a really bad fire on a windy day that was caused by a down power line and exacerbated when the water was shut off.

But if there was no down power line that started the fire what started it? We have video of a very bright light, which some assumed was the electricity, but that was turned off.

Now if you try and come up with a benign explanation for why this police chief is here after having been in Nevada at that mass shooting, why the power was off, why there was no siren, why there was no alert, and why everything that was blue didn't burn, while aluminum was melting, the idea that the military's direct energy weapon becomes the simplest explanation that explains everything we see.
 

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My point is when the fire happened it seemed reasonable to think it was simply a really bad fire on a windy day that was caused by a down power line and exacerbated when the water was shut off.

But if there was no down power line that started the fire what started it? We have video of a very bright light, which some assumed was the electricity, but that was turned off.

Now if you try and come up with a benign explanation for why this police chief is here after having been in Nevada at that mass shooting, why the power was off, why there was no siren, why there was no alert, and why everything that was blue didn't burn, while aluminum was melting, the idea that the military's direct energy weapon becomes the simplest explanation that explains everything we see.

Just between us but,, I think that the account the electric company is giving in the Reuters article will end up falling apart. Why is because in the very first few videos from the Maui fire where they were talking about where it first started it shows a big flash/spark out in the darkness. It's like they say about a dot in a circle where people only see the dot because it was suggested. Anyway look at the video and instead of looking at the flash/spark in the darkness(the thing suggested) look at the video and notice that the lights are reflecting off the bushes in front of the house and other objects, and that whoever was recording the video pans the phone(?) around and aims it at the porch ceiling and notice that the "power is on" in the video. video of maui fire starting
 

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Just between us but,, I think that the account the electric company is giving in the Reuters article will end up falling apart. Why is because in the very first few videos from the Maui fire where they were talking about where it first started it shows a big flash/spark out in the darkness. It's like they say about a dot in a circle where people only see the dot because it was suggested. Anyway look at the video and instead of looking at the flash/spark in the darkness(the thing suggested) look at the video and notice that the lights are reflecting off the bushes in front of the house and other objects, and that whoever was recording the video pans the phone(?) around and aims it at the porch ceiling and notice that the "power is on" in the video. video of maui fire starting
Read the article, they agree that the first fire was started by the electricity which is why they shut it off and they said that fire was contained and put out.
 

iamsoandso

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Read the article, they agree that the first fire was started by the electricity which is why they shut it off and they said that fire was contained and put out.

Which is why I pointed out that I chose not to use the words electricity,power,power lines ect..... Should we wait and let the fire investigators tell us the cause and origin or just keep on guessing?
 

ZNP

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Which is why I pointed out that I chose not to use the words electricity,power,power lines ect..... Should we wait and let the fire investigators tell us the cause and origin or just keep on guessing?
I don't think we need to wait, there is plenty of observable physical evidence to discuss. regardless of whether this is a natural causes or an act of war, either way the people responsible for the response to this catastrophe should be fired. Regardless of what they want to say as a defense it is undeniable that the outcome could not have possibly been worse. As far as the police chief goes, one mass murder can be bad luck, two should mean that you are not cut out for this job. He should be relieved of duty and investigated.

The book of revelation compares the spirit of Antichrist to Caesar Nero, so if this fire was an attempt to be able to buy up this land at a small fraction of what it was worth prior to the fire, then not only should we be concerned about corruption but also with the Spirit of Antichrist operating.

I have not heard a decent explanation for why the siren wasn't sounded and we don't need to give them more time to fabricate some story. It is easy to confirm when the electricity was turned off and when the last devastating fire started. If the fire didn't start with a power line then the next best explanation for that bright light which stated it will be a laser from a satellite.

It is very important to demand questions be answered early in the investigation because if they change their story it is very telling. Already they have changed virtually everything about the story.
 

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Which is why I pointed out that I chose not to use the words electricity,power,power lines ect..... Should we wait and let the fire investigators tell us the cause and origin or just keep on guessing?
One news report was of power line poles cut next to dry brush. It's hard to prove who did it without a confession, but they have a long list of suspects that should be interrogated and investigated.
With that and all the other evidence, I have no reason to care about the manner in which the fire started. It just seems to me like a serious case of arson and mass murder.