Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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SanderB

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Impossible for me to vote for Biden or any Democrat. If the only choice is a Democrat or Trump I will stay home.
Agreed, at least when it comes to Biden and Trump. I would probably stay home as well, if November 2024 was between Biden and Trump. We need a neutral party also.
 

ZNP

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Also, it isn't very Christian to call out on anybody's weight. Christie is big, but shaming someone for weight plays no part in a peaceful discussion.
Tell that to Chris Christie, he is the one that brought up Vivek's weight.
 
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The last few days He has brought to mind the way Moses spoke to the people from the two mountains, one of blessing and one of curse, Gerazim and Ebal, here you bring up another witness of how He is tying this in to our situation, the 911 event was not received as the wakeup call it was.
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"I call heaven and earth against you all; the Lord has set before you this day blessings and curses, choose therefore the blessings that you may continue to dwell in the land of your fathers."
 
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SanderB

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Tell that to Chris Christie, he is the one that brought up Vivek's weight.
Yeah. Which is terrible on Christie's part as well. In other words, none of the candidates are ideal Christian material. So, we must either stay home, or vote for the candidate who committed the least amount of crimes and judged others the least.
 

DRobinson

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I never stated he was a saviour, neither do I think Trump was chosen by God. Obviously you are projecting onto me.

If you think Trump is as evil as the tyrants from history I mentioned, then your view of him is based upon emotion not facts.
If I misunderstood what you said, I am sorry. Lot to read and keep separated for me.
I just believe Trump's evil, like Biden's is so evident I cannot vote for him nor can I understand how anyone cannot see it.
 

ZNP

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Yeah. Which is terrible on Christie's part as well. In other words, none of the candidates are ideal Christian material. So, we must either stay home, or vote for the candidate who committed the least amount of crimes and judged others the least.
Since I have no intention of sitting this one out, that would be indefensible. So I think what is more appropriate response is "as you have done it will be done unto you" or "you will reap what you have sown"
 
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Agreed, at least when it comes to Biden and Trump. I would probably stay home as well, if November 2024 was between Biden and Trump. We need a neutral party also.
The would be Cornel West............ and he's a communist that pretty much sympathizes with our enemies.
 

shittim

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He calls us each to repent, return, seek his direction and walk it out.
If our lives are acceptable, our prayers will be effectual.:)(y):unsure:
 
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SanderB

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Since I have no intention of sitting this one out, that would be indefensible. So I think what is more appropriate response is "as you have done it will be done unto you" or "you will reap what you have sown"
Yep, I will choose the second option as well. I'll pick the one who I think is ideal. If the future president isn't reaping ideal fruits which he is supposed to be sewing, he should be removed from office. If Biden does/did something bad, he should be impeached, just as if Trump or any other candidate does/did something bad.
 
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SanderB

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The would be Cornel West............ and he's a communist that pretty much sympathizes with our enemies.
Yeah. So, there is no one good enough for me to vote for. Even the third party is corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 

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If I misunderstood what you said, I am sorry. Lot to read and keep separated for me.
I just believe Trump's evil, like Biden's is so evident I cannot vote for him nor can I understand how anyone cannot see it.
You are entitled to your opinion.

But you are basically making the word 'evil' meaningless.
 
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jennymae

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I don’t think the democrats will slow down the polarization process, and neither will Trump. On second thought I don’t think Mike Pence is able to. That leaves us with Ron DeSantis. The other candidates just ain’t up to the task. Just my two cents.
 

ZNP

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I notice you never use your judging in your many many post.o_O
We must be able to discern who to vote for. That doesn't mean we "judge" that someone is evil, that is only for the Lord.

I can judge as to whether I would vote for Hillary, or Joe, or Donald, or whoever. As others have mentioned we are to do that in prayer and walking before the Lord to lead us.

We can judge sins, we can judge lies, we can judge if someone is following the proper protocols or the US Constitution.

But we have no right to judge that this person or that person is "evil". That is only for the Lord. Even in Matthew 18 the Lord doesn't say that, He says that a person who refuses to listen to the church should be as a heathen. We don't say "heathens" are evil. We say we are all sinners who need the Lord's blood to be saved.
 

DRobinson

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You are entitled to your opinion.

But you are basically making the word 'evil' meaningless.
Evil---profoundly immoral and wicked, especially in one's actions.
This is what I see in Trump.
I guess others do not.