What does Jesus look like according to the Bible?
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I don't think that is evidence. Both mean a man, a certain man but nothing in it proves it's two different men.
No…. Both don’t mean a man… the whole reason we utilize “ha” article is so we know when we are speaking of a man.. singular, or man, plural. What you are saying is ha-adam and adam mean the same, this is not true.
In the Hebrew certain words are given characteristics by the use of the Article and the Particle. In English we use a system of Capitalization to render this character.
Observe:
Gen 2:21-23
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. (KJV)
In the above, the words "a woman" has an Article. For this woman above is la'ishaah but a woman in general is simply ishaah. In other words this particular woman was made by God out of Adam, not that all women are made this way. This is further strength to the argument that the sixth day and eight day creations were different, for in the sixth day we see that "...male and female created he them" (Gen 1:27)but here in the eighth day we see that "...the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman...." (Gen 2:22).21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. (KJV)
And with the Articles and Particles shown, which are not visible in the English languages, we have:
- "...the [the (particle)] rib, which the LORD God had taken from [the (Article)] man, made he a [the (Article)] woman...." (Gen 2:22).
- Or, for more clarity it can be read in the English as: '...this rib, which the LORD God had taken from that man, made he this woman.'
They do.
Both are called ha-adam and both are adam (human) so none of this is evidence that they are two different people.
Eth ha-adam contains ha-adam. They are not two different words. This is not a personal name only for the man of Gen 2. 121 is Adam's personal name and the man in Gen 1 is not called that but this is not strong evidence as someone can merely argue the personal name isn't used in the first chapter.
Indeed… However the man Adam and man as in mankind are distinguished by “ha”
Not to mention…
Genesis 1
CREATED: Hebrew word # 1254; bara' - to shape, to fashion, to create (always with God as subject) used of individual man, used of new conditions and circumstances, to be created, used of birth, used of something new.
Genesis 2
FORMED: Hebrew word # 3335; yatsar - to form, to fashion, to frame, used of human activity, used of divine activity, used of Israel as a people, to frame, to pre-ordain, to plan (figurative of divine) to purpose of a situation, to be predetermined, to be pre-ordained, to be formed.
You [[DO NOT]] read very well.
it says BRASS as if [[were burned]]in a FURNANCE.
Clearly, and only Engineers/Toolmakers/Machinist/Metallugist would know this. but brass ""BURNED"" in fire is BLACK!
but when you remove it and clean it, then it becomes a beautiful darkened Gold.
But the Verse says as it was [[BURNED in Fire]].
So yeah, that Verse is saying, Jesus is BLACK!
so what?
Paul was asked if he was Egyptian because his skin color.
Mediterranean Jews are sometimes BLACK Skinned.
DEEP DARK OLIVE/BLACK OLIVE! [i love pitted black mediterranean olives mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm] [yummy]
And we also have what Josephus wrote:
His skin was NEGRO [Black].
Languages have different words that have the same meaning. This also isn't evidence that there are two different creations of man.
In Gen 5:1 Adam (H121) which is Adam's personal name, is said to have been created bara H1254. Formed (H3335) is not used but the words are interchangable. Theer is nothings pecial about being "fornmed" over being "created" It's the same thing in Hebrew. So again, the different words used is not evidence of anything.
Gen_5:1 ThisH2088 is the bookH5612 of the generationsH8435 of Adam.H121 In the dayH3117 that GodH430 createdH1254 man,H120 in the likenessH1823 of GodH430 madeH6213 he him;
Well let me ask you…. I believe you said you don’t believe Gen 1 is the same man as Gen 2..
Why?
Didn't you just say something about not reading well? You didn't read well.
Rev_1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
First of all this is about the color of his feet, not any other part of his body. The "as if" means it's not actual fire or being burned. They look like fine brass AS IF burned in a furnace which just means brighter not darker. When you heat brass up it gets VERY BRIGHT. A proper furnace would not have black type soot all over the metal anyways becaue it is a hotter fire than like a cooking fire.
fine brass
G5474
χαλκαλίβανον
chalkalibanon
khal-kol-ib'-an-on
Neuter of a compound of G5475 and G3030 (in the implied mean of whiteness or brilliancy); burnished copper, an alloy of copper (or gold) and silver having a brilliant lustre: - fine brass.
Total KJV occurrences: 2
Rev_2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
Same thing here ONLY about his feet. It has nothing to do with a dark color or black but the complete opposite.
Dan_10:6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
polished brass is exactly the same concept the other verses are talking about.
she used this Scripture in Revelation:
Rev_1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace
as if they [[[burned]]] in a furnace
The order of creation of animals etc. There's better evidence than the different words for create and the various names/words of adam/ha-adam. We are already way off topic so getting itno all that is best for another thread and I have in the past posted my arguments in past threads.
Not was "burnt" but actively burning. A furnace is hotter than a fire. It's talking about the BRIGHT color of heated brass not brass objects not in a furnace. Also, this is about FEET and other scripture speak of polished brass. It's about the feet being very bright.
i operate the furnance for heat treating metals like Brass, which I machine.
as the heat hits it it becomes black.
it never shines until you remove it and wipe it off.
so, you can give me opinion after opinion, if you have never placed Brass into a Heat Structure and watched the process, you're speaking from the back end of things.
There are many videos showing this. It supports what I have said, and what scripture says. It does not support what you say:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qae7DEKCiPM
The metal is BRIGHT hot.
Jesus will be seen with SHINING BRIGHTNESS from his feet. He is not black, nor are his feet black.
she used this Scripture in Revelation:
Rev_1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace
as if they [[[burned]]] in a furnace
But by that same logic, I could say
she used this Scripture in Revelation:
Rev_1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace
as if they [[[burned]]] in a furnace
But it seems you are going into your reasoning already believing the Egyptians were black.
THEY ARE MELTING the Brass, not Heat Treating!
nothing in the Bible about Jesus having His feet melted!
WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY JESUS FEET ARE BEING MELTED?