Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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NightTwister

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"Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?"
This: Former President Donald Trump plans to negotiate with Democrats on the issue of abortion.
 

ZNP

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"Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?"
This: Former President Donald Trump plans to negotiate with Democrats on the issue of abortion.
18 And Jehu gathered all the people together, and said unto them, Ahab served Baal a little; but Jehu shall serve him much.

19 Now therefore call unto me all the prophets of Baal, all his servants, and all his priests; let none be wanting: for I have a great sacrifice to do to Baal; whosoever shall be wanting, he shall not live. But Jehu did it in subtilty, to the intent that he might destroy the worshippers of Baal.

20 And Jehu said, Proclaim a solemn assembly for Baal. And they proclaimed it.

21 And Jehu sent through all Israel: and all the worshippers of Baal came, so that there was not a man left that came not. And they came into the house of Baal; and the house of Baal was full from one end to another.

22 And he said unto him that was over the vestry, Bring forth vestments for all the worshippers of Baal. And he brought them forth vestments.

23 And Jehu went, and Jehonadab the son of Rechab, into the house of Baal, and said unto the worshippers of Baal, Search, and look that there be here with you none of the servants of the Lord, but the worshippers of Baal only.

24 And when they went in to offer sacrifices and burnt offerings, Jehu appointed fourscore men without, and said, If any of the men whom I have brought into your hands escape, he that letteth him go, his life shall be for the life of him.

25 And it came to pass, as soon as he had made an end of offering the burnt offering, that Jehu said to the guard and to the captains, Go in, and slay them; let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword; and the guard and the captains cast them out, and went to the city of the house of Baal.

26 And they brought forth the images out of the house of Baal, and burned them.

27 And they brake down the image of Baal, and brake down the house of Baal, and made it a draught house unto this day.

28 Thus Jehu destroyed Baal out of Israel.
 

Nehemiah6

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Many believe that Donald Trump Is above the law...
If the Obamas, and the Clintons, and the Bidens can be placed above the law, why not Donald Trump? What's sauce for the goose... The fact is that Joe Biden has weaponized the justice system against Trump to block him from being president. So who is worse? Not a single attempt to impeach or indict Trump has had any merit. What does that mean?
 

Nehemiah6

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"Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?" This: Former President Donald Trump plans to negotiate with Democrats on the issue of abortion.
Looks like Trump is becoming more stupid rather than more wise. Very sad.
 

ZNP

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Rabbi Jonathan Cahn and Amanda Grace: A Prophetic Connect the Dots and the Josiah Manifesto

 

Nehemiah6

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28 Thus Jehu destroyed Baal out of Israel.
How in the world does this relate to Trump's current stupidity? Abortion -- infanticide -- is as wicked as Baal worship. It is Moloch worship.
 

Nehemiah6

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Or he is the modern day Jehu
Really? Are you just dreaming or is there any reality to this observation? Donald Trump has to make up his mind. He either stands for righteousness in every aspect of his campaign and his government, or he is just another politician playing head games.
 

ZNP

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How in the world does this relate to Trump's current stupidity? Abortion -- infanticide -- is as wicked as Baal worship. It is Moloch worship.
Donald Trump ran on a platform of Building a wall to stop the human trafficking, He wanted to drain the swamp, lock up Hillary Clinton the biggest Moloch High priest there is, and then appointed 3 pro life judges that overturned Roe v. Wade. Since then The Sound of Freedom has come out and we have learned that Trump has helped women that were trafficked to escape. But now we think he has changed and wants to "negotiate" with the abortionists? You can take this on face value or you can think that maybe Trump, like Jehu, has a plan to destroy the worship of Baal.

There is no doubt that the Baal worshippers like Biden, Obama and Clinton hate him and want to destroy him. I think this is highly plausible that his plan is to destroy them.

But watch the link in post 1686. It isn't all about the links from Trump to Jehu, but he does mention some and the evidence is quite compelling.
 

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Really? Are you just dreaming or is there any reality to this observation? Donald Trump has to make up his mind. He either stands for righteousness in every aspect of his campaign and his government, or he is just another politician playing head games.
See post 1690
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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"Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?"
This: Former President Donald Trump plans to negotiate with Democrats on the issue of abortion.

That's not what Trump said though. In fact he hasn't said yet what he would support. I'm no fan of Nikki, but what I don't want is someone making a "promise" to get a vote then come to find out it can't be done. I'd like to see abortion done with but I know that can't happen. What can realistically be done? Don't blow smoke.
 

iamsoandso

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That's not what Trump said though. In fact he hasn't said yet what he would support. I'm no fan of Nikki, but what I don't want is someone making a "promise" to get a vote then come to find out it can't be done. I'd like to see abortion done with but I know that can't happen. What can realistically be done? Don't blow smoke.

Did you watch the interview they aired on Sunday?
 

iamsoandso

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"Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?"
This: Former President Donald Trump plans to negotiate with Democrats on the issue of abortion.

Yep that's what I heard him saying too,,,15 weeks, GOP needs to ease up on it or they wont win the election,,,doesn't matter to him if it's regulated by the states or federal government,, lol, shocked me to hear him say it is it a shift from far hard right?....
 

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Yep that's what I heard him saying too,,,15 weeks, GOP needs to ease up on it or they wont win the election,,,doesn't matter to him if it's regulated by the states or federal government,, lol, shocked me to hear him say it is it a shift from far hard right?....
DeSantis passed a 6 week bill in Florida. Does anyone have a problem with that?

It should be left to the states to regulate.

But to Trump's point, he isn't talking about how he feels personally. He is expressing a political stance. And it's because the country isn't ready to commit to outlawing abortion. But there is a unique opportunity to get a national band at 15 weeks. This is a far cry better than what exists currently. And it can be written so that individual states can go lower if they desire. Politically, this is a huge win and it will save untold lives. It doesn't mean the issue cannot be revisited later.
 
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If the Obamas, and the Clintons, and the Bidens can be placed above the law, why not Donald Trump? What's sauce for the goose... The fact is that Joe Biden has weaponized the justice system against Trump to block him from being president. So who is worse? Not a single attempt to impeach or indict Trump has had any merit. What does that mean?
Out of his own mouth evidence will come that convicts him.
 

iamsoandso

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DeSantis passed a 6 week bill in Florida. Does anyone have a problem with that?

It should be left to the states to regulate.

But to Trump's point, he isn't talking about how he feels personally. He is expressing a political stance. And it's because the country isn't ready to commit to outlawing abortion. But there is a unique opportunity to get a national band at 15 weeks. This is a far cry better than what exists currently. And it can be written so that individual states can go lower if they desire. Politically, this is a huge win and it will save untold lives. It doesn't mean the issue cannot be revisited later.

Something else people should consider is that like me in my 80's we didn't do any of these things before we were married,in the old days that is. Anyway if were gonna go in the direction of give and take in this issue that takes the part where anyone voting for a democrat is not Christian off the table. It is or it isn't....
 

iamsoandso

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If the Obamas, and the Clintons, and the Bidens can be placed above the law, why not Donald Trump? What's sauce for the goose... The fact is that Joe Biden has weaponized the justice system against Trump to block him from being president. So who is worse? Not a single attempt to impeach or indict Trump has had any merit. What does that mean?

We definitely seem to be looking for the cleanest of the dirty rats... It's mindboggling that with 348 or so million people in the US we cant find a person that isn't a crook,don't cheat on their spouse ect.ect.ect......
 

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18 And Jehu gathered all the people together, and said unto them, Ahab served Baal a little; but Jehu shall serve him much.

19 Now therefore call unto me all the prophets of Baal, all his servants, and all his priests; let none be wanting: for I have a great sacrifice to do to Baal; whosoever shall be wanting, he shall not live. But Jehu did it in subtilty, to the intent that he might destroy the worshippers of Baal.

20 And Jehu said, Proclaim a solemn assembly for Baal. And they proclaimed it.

21 And Jehu sent through all Israel: and all the worshippers of Baal came, so that there was not a man left that came not. And they came into the house of Baal; and the house of Baal was full from one end to another.

22 And he said unto him that was over the vestry, Bring forth vestments for all the worshippers of Baal. And he brought them forth vestments.

23 And Jehu went, and Jehonadab the son of Rechab, into the house of Baal, and said unto the worshippers of Baal, Search, and look that there be here with you none of the servants of the Lord, but the worshippers of Baal only.

24 And when they went in to offer sacrifices and burnt offerings, Jehu appointed fourscore men without, and said, If any of the men whom I have brought into your hands escape, he that letteth him go, his life shall be for the life of him.

25 And it came to pass, as soon as he had made an end of offering the burnt offering, that Jehu said to the guard and to the captains, Go in, and slay them; let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword; and the guard and the captains cast them out, and went to the city of the house of Baal.

26 And they brought forth the images out of the house of Baal, and burned them.

27 And they brake down the image of Baal, and brake down the house of Baal, and made it a draught house unto this day.

28 Thus Jehu destroyed Baal out of Israel.
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