Tell me if I have this right about your idea of what happens in heaven

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Locoponydirtman

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are you saying old white men did not run the show like Bama Gov. Wallace and others like him for many years around your parts of the South?
You mean democrat George Wallace up until 68?
What does that have to do with john and his attemlts to justify his sexually perversion and his attempts to twist scripture to suit him?
The sexual revolution came out of the radicals and socialist of the frankfort school imports brought into California and NewYork.
 
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You mean democrat George Wallace up until 68?
What does that have to do with john and his attemlts to justify his sexually perversion and his attempts to twist scripture to suit him?
The sexual revolution came out of the radicals and socialist of the frankfort school imports brought into California and NewYork.
the copy/paste he posted towards me and the people behind it.
i have seen many errors in this group before.
some of the paid scholars/theologians, to which i have read their viewpoints, and who backs who, and you see the circles where they fall in line at.
making sure credit is passed for being known. they are no different than the good ole white boys club. they're incorrect but using a posse to pass baloney in their professional world amongst other groups outside this group.

it's like, ok, everyone here agrees the Bible means this.

but to make money, we need to present that its possible a Bible Verse has many meanings.

garbage!

and of course, John, uses it for his crutch
 
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Locoponydirtman

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that puts you into the 1980s South.
old white men were still the leaders in the South and well into 2,000s.
you definitely understand what old white men/boys club means.
There has only been 4 Black Governors of three different state in the US. One of those states is Louisiana which is south as south gets in the US.
Race Has nothing to do with bad ideas. Only biggots think stuff like that.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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the copy/paste he posted towards me and the people behind it.
i have seen many errors in this group before.
some of the paid scholars/theologians, to which i have read their viewpoints, and who backs who, and you see the circles where they fall in line at.
making sure credit is passed for being known. they are no different than the good ole white boys club. they're incorrect but using a posse to pass baloney in their professional world amongst other groups outside this group.

it's like, ok, everyone here agrees the Bible means this.

but to make money, we need to present that its possible a Bible Verse has many meanings.

garbage!

and of course, John, uses it for his crutch
I know of no theologians that support the views espoused by that guy.
 
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There has only been 4 Black Governors of three different state in the US. One of those states is Louisiana which is south as south gets in the US.
Race Has nothing to do with bad ideas. Only biggots think stuff like that.
it's very good today. there's more opportunity and that is a good thing. but it wasn't as good as it is Now, in terms of opportunity, years ago. it has come a long way.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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yes, that's what i am telling him in my post. but my word choice caught your attention. but yes, i am pointing out he is miss using their views.
The problem with John is that he can not take responsibility for himself. He never married because his own errors, and rather than repent he points his fingure and excuses himself. He needs an act of liberation, knowlege and wisdom and evidence is not enough to help him.
 

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the Ancient Hebrews did, but you, prefer the old fat white man's club opinion that's removed literally by 4,800 years.
God told Genesis 6 to Moses, and it Confirmed the Oral Tradition of Enoch, that existed when Enoch was alive and preaching. and the Ancient Hebrews and modern day Jews have known since.

but you are deceived and blinded.

you are not able to see the TRUTH when it's presented.

that also is a good example of the temp gage on your spiritual life.

enjoy believing the lies that will damn your soul if you continue!
You are going by someone's interpretation hundreds of year AFTER this was written. You're not going by what was written. You lower yourself when you try and insult the other person.
 
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You are going by someone's interpretation hundreds of year AFTER this was written. You're not going by what was written. You lower yourself when you try and insult the other person.
No, the Ancient Jews were immaculate about record keeping.
in fact, the Bible, outside being about Jesus, is a factual Human Being Lineage Record.
It's [Bible] also a factual Old World Map and Ancient Names keeper for modern day [Gog and Magog = Russia].

This is not just simple knowledge, by the time a Jewish boy is 13, he knows the Complete Old Testament word for word in Hebrew, like God gave it. just 1 of millions can decipher Genesis 6 like other 13 year old gentile boys can load live rounds into a chamber.

This ain't some story to the Jews, they see it alongside Genesis 3 and 12 + Deuteronomy 32 as Angels ATTACKING God's human lineage.

and because you want to pervert the Holy Word of God, you make it like they were having some sort of sexual encounter.

look at how these Nephilim are described in many places of the Bible. butt ugly, 6 fingers/toes, they looked aged and old when they were young, they are something that God clearly did not Create to represent the Human Race. these Fallen Angels, took the Beautiful Creation of Woman, how God wanted her to be, and planted seed that gave birth to Hideous Creatures. And these beasts committed so much abomination, God, KILLED them a very HORRIBLE way "Drowning/lungs full of water/choking and more water keeps filling your lungs until finally the nervous system causes sporadic body jerking and finally the soul is released from the body." God, Killed the entire World with Intent and Purpose. ...but you find it all to be sexual :sick:
 
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The problem with John is that he can not take responsibility for himself. He never married because his own errors, and rather than repent he points his fingure and excuses himself. He needs an act of liberation, knowlege and wisdom and evidence is not enough to help him.
somewhere, place, and how, dysfunction, became normalcy and the view that comes from such a combination is clear to one mind and skewed to most others.

He took the Preachers warnings. and that's what they were, Warnings. and he applied them as absolutes. so ultimately, he ends up condemning himself and misses how being Saved works [we are Forgiven], [there is no more condemnation of past sins], and we have an Advocate for future sins we are going to do because [we are a Work in Progress and God isn't completed with us until His Return] and we have a Sin Nature.

but to feel so condemned that you never marry, that's like a religion, where you beat yourself with whips each time you sin.

so glad that is a baloney doctrine, i sin enough alone, that beating myself would be literally killing myself.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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somewhere, place, and how, dysfunction, became normalcy and the view that comes from such a combination is clear to one mind and skewed to most others.

He took the Preachers warnings. and that's what they were, Warnings. and he applied them as absolutes. so ultimately, he ends up condemning himself and misses how being Saved works [we are Forgiven], [there is no more condemnation of past sins], and we have an Advocate for future sins we are going to do because [we are a Work in Progress and God isn't completed with us until His Return] and we have a Sin Nature.

but to feel so condemned that you never marry, that's like a religion, where you beat yourself with whips each time you sin.

so glad that is a baloney doctrine, i sin enough alone, that beating myself would be literally killing myself.
I dont know how to liberate such a person who rejects every admonishment. If he could accept that not being married isnt sin, but rather one of the blessings and that he missed out on a blessing amd move on to other blessings that God has given us in abundance. I dont know how to give give him that.
 

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I like to think there will be many pleasures in heaven. We know it won't be all about worshiping Jesus or GOD, We will eat and drink, have jobs and homes.
Why would it not be about worshipping God?
 
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I dont know how to liberate such a person who rejects every admonishment. If he could accept that not being married isnt sin, but rather one of the blessings and that he missed out on a blessing amd move on to other blessings that God has given us in abundance. I dont know how to give give him that.
the issue is he is trying to parallel Earth and Heaven into like Realms.
God "kills" the offspring to the fallen Angels and he is at the point of it was a union God approves [just the complete opposite of reality].

another thing that alerts me about this View.
God used "Marriage" to describe the Relationship He wanted with His Creation. but it's not like an ordinary marriage, we become joint-heirs and Children of God.

and John's view of marriage, shows, he does not understand what God wants from him. God wants a Union between Himself and John, but John, has a view of marriage that extends out to polygamy.

he pretty much wants a woman who gives him ownership over her body so he can do as he pleases.

like a ancient times modern day games where men had slaves [women]. he wants power to use and abuse them.
 

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Why would it not be about worshipping God?
You do know we will eat, drink, have jobs and homes in heaven. We will be doing other things besides worshiping Jesus.
 

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I dont know how to liberate such a person who rejects every admonishment. If he could accept that not being married isnt sin, but rather one of the blessings and that he missed out on a blessing amd move on to other blessings that God has given us in abundance. I dont know how to give give him that.
You do know for some being single is not a blessing, it's a curse.
 

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No, the Ancient Jews were immaculate about record keeping.
in fact, the Bible, outside being about Jesus, is a factual Human Being Lineage Record.
It's [Bible] also a factual Old World Map and Ancient Names keeper for modern day [Gog and Magog = Russia].

This is not just simple knowledge, by the time a Jewish boy is 13, he knows the Complete Old Testament word for word in Hebrew, like God gave it. just 1 of millions can decipher Genesis 6 like other 13 year old gentile boys can load live rounds into a chamber.

This ain't some story to the Jews, they see it alongside Genesis 3 and 12 + Deuteronomy 32 as Angels ATTACKING God's human lineage.

and because you want to pervert the Holy Word of God, you make it like they were having some sort of sexual encounter.

look at how these Nephilim are described in many places of the Bible. butt ugly, 6 fingers/toes, they looked aged and old when they were young, they are something that God clearly did not Create to represent the Human Race. these Fallen Angels, took the Beautiful Creation of Woman, how God wanted her to be, and planted seed that gave birth to Hideous Creatures. And these beasts committed so much abomination, God, KILLED them a very HORRIBLE way "Drowning/lungs full of water/choking and more water keeps filling your lungs until finally the nervous system causes sporadic body jerking and finally the soul is released from the body." God, Killed the entire World with Intent and Purpose. ...but you find it all to be sexual :sick:
The Pharisees knew the scriptures too. Knowing and understanding can be two different things