It simply means going against God's grace.How can a "principle" be insulted (or "enraged", as other translations render it)?
It simply means going against God's grace.How can a "principle" be insulted (or "enraged", as other translations render it)?
You said:I don't remember rejecting anything that you have said. Just not understanding it.
I don't follow that. I don't believe that.
No, I am not.You said:
I don't know what this means.
No, I referred to the "Torah observant", how obstinate they are, and how even when they have no excuse for rejecting truth, they will reject truth. That's what you're doing--and you admitted that you used to be "Torah observant".You were using me to instruct people about Jews. But, I am not a Jew.
I have no problem admitting these things. I have a weakness in that. Please don't trample on me.You said:
1. It says "Spirit of Grace", under Whose charge Christians are (ie, "under Grace").It simply means going against God's grace.
Right, I'm taking you at your word, and I'm responding to you.I have no problem admitting these things. I have a weakness in that. Please don't trample on me.
The context for these statements is different.1. It says "Spirit of Grace", under Whose charge Christians are (ie, "under Grace").
It says spirit, not Spirit.2. You have to torture the text to make it not say what it clearly says--it doesn't say "principle", it says "Spirit".
Okay.Right, I'm taking you at your word, and I'm responding to you.
Again, you have to deny the obvious--ie, that "not under Law but under Grace" and "serve not in the oldness of the letter but in the newness of the Spirit" directly correspond--to uphold your view.The context for these statements is different.
It says spirit, not Spirit.
I agree with these statements that you have in quotes, but I do not know what my view is that you are referring to.Again, you have to deny the obvious--ie, that "not under Law but under Grace" and "serve not in the oldness of the letter but in the newness of the Spirit" directly correspond--to uphold your view.
I do believe God.I invite you to believe God, but everyone can see you're not interested.
LOL Whether it is capitalized or not depends on the translationIt says spirit, not Spirit.
I don't believe that it is referring to God's Spirit so no problem.LOL Whether it is capitalized or not depends on the translation
If you want to believe it's referring to God's Spirit, find a translation that uses the Capital "S", and you're fixed right up! LOL
You're denying that "under Law" and "under Grace" refer to methods of service, but Paul, right after using that phrase, says, "you serve not in oldness of the Letter [ie, the Law], but newness of the Spirit [ie, Grace]".I agree with these statements that you have in quotes, but I do not know what my view is that you are referring to.
I don't believe that you don't believe it is referring to God's Spirit. I think you know, very well, that it does, and you just want to be obstinate.I don't believe that it is referring to God's Spirit so no problem.
I don't know if this is spirit or Spirit.You're denying that "under Law" and "under Grace" refer to methods of service, but Paul, right after using that phrase, says, "you serve not in oldness of the Letter [ie, the Law], but newness of the Spirit [ie, Grace]".
grace is different from GodI don't believe that you don't believe it is referring to God's Spirit. I think you know, very well, that it does, and you just want to be obstinate.
How did the Gentiles qualify as "doers of the Law" without even knowing the Law (Ro 2:14)?I don't know if this is spirit or Spirit.
I don't believe in methods of service.
No. They did not know God or His Spirit. Nor did they know of the old covenant.How did the Gentiles qualify as "doers of the Law" without even knowing the Law (Ro 2:14)?
Answer:
The Spirit wrote the Law of God on their heart.
That is to say, they were serving in the newness of the Spirit.
They were not serving in the oldness of the letter.
The Spirit is called by many names--"the Spirit of Faith", "the Spirit of Grace", "the Spirit of Truth".grace is different from God
These are not The Spirit.The Spirit is called by many names--"the Spirit of Faith", "the Spirit of Grace", "the Spirit of Truth".
The Gentiles in Romans 2, it says, were "doers of the Law".No. They did not know God or His Spirit. Nor did they know of the old covenant.