The Trinity

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Cameron143

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It is not that I can't find Greek online. It is that I don't know how to read it. I know two words. Theos. And, logos. But I don't know how to read Greek. However, Hebrew I can read, though I don't know all of the words.
You can find the breakdown of it like @posthuman showed you.
 

CS1

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Correct. But in my terms that is the best I can do to understand what you said. I did not quote you. Sorry.
That is dishonesty. If you did not understand what I meant, don't read into it ask.


The Man Jesus was Born of a virgin conceived by the Holy Spirit, as the Word says. The flesh Body came from Mary, His mother. The Life of the Child came from God Himself.


This unknown Person of the Eternal Godhead became known in the Flesh, Yet He was limited because of the flesh he was restricted in.

The willful Obedience to step down to be the sacrifice for the sins of the world. The Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is Fully man and Fully God because His earthly life testified to it.

  • Jesus is all-knowing. This is an attribute only God has
  • Jesus has all Authority. Only God has that.
  • Jesus said He was before Abraham. Only God can say that.

Jesus said John 10:18

in context to HIS Life

No one takes it away from Me, but I lay it down voluntarily. I am authorized and have power to lay it down and to give it up, and I am authorized and have power to take it back. This command I have received from My Father.”



Only God can do that. The Spirit of Christ is Eternal there in the Godhead.
 
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That is dishonesty. If you did not understand what I meant, don't read into it ask.


The Man Jesus was Born of a virgin conceived by the Holy Spirit, as the Word says. The flesh Body came from Mary, His mother. The Life of the Child came from God Himself.


This unknown Person of the Eternal Godhead became known in the Flesh, Yet He was limited because of the flesh he was restricted in.

The willful Obedience to step down to be the sacrifice for the sins of the world. The Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is Fully man and Fully God because His earthly life testified to it.

  • Jesus is all-knowing. This is an attribute only God has
  • Jesus has all Authority. Only God has that.
  • Jesus said He was before Abraham. Only God can say that.

Jesus said John 10:18

in context to HIS Life

No one takes it away from Me, but I lay it down voluntarily. I am authorized and have power to lay it down and to give it up, and I am authorized and have power to take it back. This command I have received from My Father.”



Only God can do that. The Spirit of Christ is Eternal there in the Godhead.
You are incorrect. The Spirit of Christ came after Christ. You are still wrong. I have been honest with you.
 

CS1

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You are incorrect. The Spirit of Christ came after Christ. You are still wrong. I have been honest with you.
NO, the Spirit of Christ is Eternal. Why?


Because only God can give Eternal life. You are not honest; you are unlearned in Who Christ is.

Christ was not a created being. Jesus had no Earthly father. He was not conceived by the will of man. We did not come by way of an angel as some think in Genesis chapter 6. God placed himself in the womb of Mary.

God The Creator, and God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit = God. Jesus is the very expression of God in Human form. Which makes HIM God. John chapter 1 is very clear

The "Word" was with God and the "Word" was God and became Flesh!= Jesus the man who is God and man. If you don't know Jesus as God you are not saved.
 
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NO, the Spirit of Christ is Eternal. Why?


Because only God can give Eternal life. You are not honest; you are unlearned in Who Christ is.

Christ was not a created being. Jesus had no Earthly father. He was not conceived by the will of man. We did not come by way of an angel as some think in Genesis chapter 6. God placed himself in the womb of Mary.

God The Creator, and God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit = God. Jesus is the very expression of God in Human form. Which makes HIM God. John chapter 1 is very clear

The "Word" was with God and the "Word" was God and became Flesh!= Jesus the man who is God and man. If you don't know Jesus as God you are not saved.
Not according to the Bible.
 
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you have not provided any scripture to refute what was said in John chapter 1: 1-6
Do you think that scripture refutes scripture? You are greatly mistaken.

On the Spirit of Christ, you can find it mentioned in the Bible. It is after Jesus. This is because Jesus was Anointed by God. The word Christ means Anointed. This is why people say Jesus Christ.
 

CS1

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Do you think that scripture refutes scripture? You are greatly mistaken.

On the Spirit of Christ, you can find it mentioned in the Bible. It is after Jesus. This is because Jesus was Anointed by God. The word Christ means Anointed. This is why people say Jesus Christ.
"You" have not provided any. I did not say Scripture refuted scripture. You are being dishonest again.
 

posthuman

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I would need to learn the language, and I don't have a way to do that. My Greek instructor died.
you can at least see that a word is singular or plural and whether a word is actually in the text or not.
you can read what experts in Greek say about difficult passages.

the images i put are from biblehub.com and when i quote it's almost always nkjv
 

CS1

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Then you asked what scripture to no purpose.

LOL


You said in Post 1#

I realize that this should be a Bible Study, and it can be. I want to view all of the Bible verses that can be seen in favor of the Trinity or the Trinity doctrine, from Christianity not from Hinduism. Also, I can give my version and be critiqued on it.

God is one.
The Father is God or God is the Father. God is Spirit.
The Son is God or Jesus is God the Son.
The Holy Spirit is God or God is Spirit.






This is very telling of you. 1. You say this topic should be a Bible study, Yet you refuse to see what the Bible says and then deny what the word Tells you from many witnesses and scriptures.

2. You say you want to view ALL of the bible verses that can be seen in favor of the Trinity. Yet You suggest they are wrong, then what we show you in the word of God is wrong but provides no Biblical text to prove otherwise.


3. You only give your version, and that is okay, but it is NOT A BIBLICAL ONE AT ALL>. It is YOUR version, your opinion without Biblical support.
 

posthuman

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You asked about the word us. Are you asking about Hebrew or Greek?
i did not.

the only real question i have is why is a man who admits he doesn't understand the text of scripture having an argument that was already settled 2,000 years ago with people who he refuses to listen to?
 
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LOL


You said in Post 1#

I realize that this should be a Bible Study, and it can be. I want to view all of the Bible verses that can be seen in favor of the Trinity or the Trinity doctrine, from Christianity not from Hinduism. Also, I can give my version and be critiqued on it.

God is one.
The Father is God or God is the Father. God is Spirit.
The Son is God or Jesus is God the Son.
The Holy Spirit is God or God is Spirit.






This is very telling of you. 1. You say this topic should be a Bible study, Yet you refuse to see what the Bible says and then deny what the word Tells you from many witnesses and scriptures.

2. You say you want to view ALL of the bible verses that can be seen in favor of the Trinity. Yet You suggest they are wrong, then what we show you in the word of God is wrong but provides no Biblical text to prove otherwise.


3. You only give your version, and that is okay, but it is NOT A BIBLICAL ONE AT ALL>. It is YOUR version, your opinion without Biblical support.
Incorrect.

I don't deal with everyone fairly, but WE HAVE been discussing scripture. I have yet to see anyone share what the trinity is from scripture. That is a different question than not finding the word trinity in the Bible. I shared the verses that I think support the Trinity. Do you remember reading them? Do you disagree with them?
 

CS1

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Incorrect.

I don't deal with everyone fairly, but WE HAVE been discussing scripture. I have yet to see anyone share what the trinity is from scripture. That is a different question than not finding the word trinity in the Bible. I shared the verses that I think support the Trinity. Do you remember reading them? Do you disagree with them?


14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.