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how would Jesus know Abraham, and that Abraham would: 56. "Abraham your father desired to see my day, and he saw it and rejoiced." : Rejoice?

only GOD could do and know this!


this is how:

58. Yeshua said to them: "Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD."

Yeshua, is the LIVING GOD!
 
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i like how Yeshua said this: Timeless truth I speak to you...

then drops what that truth is that is Timeless:

Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD."
 
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John 3:13 NASB20 - "No one has ascended into heaven, except He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.
62. But Yeshua said to him, "I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven."


Jesus called Himself [[BOTH]] THE LIVING GOD and THE SON of MAN in Verse 62 (y)
 

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An excerpted section from Menorah Ministries:
“The Trinity is a Hebrew Concept”

The trinity is one of the greatest truths we have to share, because by it we alone, of all faiths, can declare the truth that God IS love! In order to love, we need an object of affection, but since God is Father, Son and Spirit, he was already living in loving unity long before he created the world! In himself, God’s very essence is love with no need of outside intervention. We could say that a singular God could be loving in nature, but to say that he IS love is a unique privilege of those who believe that he can give and receive love in and of himself.

They're all there, the entire time, all through the Tenach

The word “trinity” cannot be found in the Bible, but the truth is that the three of them have been there together all the way along. Genesis tells us that God created the heavens and the earth by his word. John 1 tells us that the Word is Yeshua - that he was with God and was God from the get go, right there at creation. We also see the third person of the trinity, the Holy Spirit, hovering over the waters in the second verse of the Bible. Not sure about this? The first words of the Bible in Hebrew are: בראשית ברא אלוהים
In the beginning, God created (or “in the beginning, created God...”, because that’s the way Hebrew sentences are structured). The word for God is Elohim. This word Elohim, very interestingly, is plural. Still not convinced? The decision to create humanity is made. “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”, says the plural God, in plural. There is no getting away from it this time. The Hebrew is very clear.

John 5:39-You pore over the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, and yet they testify about me (Jesus).
 

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previously discussed more than once.
it grows quite tiresome going in circles with you.


Isaiah 42:8 says explicitly that God does not share His glory with anyone.
John 17:5 says explicitly that The Son shares exactly the same glory as the Father.
therefore JESUS OF NAZARETH is God.
 

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John 3:13 NASB20 - "No one has ascended into heaven, except He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.
John 3:31​
He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.
 
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An excerpted section from Menorah Ministries:
“The Trinity is a Hebrew Concept”

The trinity is one of the greatest truths we have to share, because by it we alone, of all faiths, can declare the truth that God IS love! In order to love, we need an object of affection, but since God is Father, Son and Spirit, he was already living in loving unity long before he created the world! In himself, God’s very essence is love with no need of outside intervention. We could say that a singular God could be loving in nature, but to say that he IS love is a unique privilege of those who believe that he can give and receive love in and of himself.

They're all there, the entire time, all through the Tenach

The word “trinity” cannot be found in the Bible, but the truth is that the three of them have been there together all the way along. Genesis tells us that God created the heavens and the earth by his word. John 1 tells us that the Word is Yeshua - that he was with God and was God from the get go, right there at creation. We also see the third person of the trinity, the Holy Spirit, hovering over the waters in the second verse of the Bible. Not sure about this? The first words of the Bible in Hebrew are: בראשית ברא אלוהים
In the beginning, God created (or “in the beginning, created God...”, because that’s the way Hebrew sentences are structured). The word for God is Elohim. This word Elohim, very interestingly, is plural. Still not convinced? The decision to create humanity is made. “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”, says the plural God, in plural. There is no getting away from it this time. The Hebrew is very clear.

John 5:39-You pore over the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, and yet they testify about me (Jesus).
I know that there is a context for everything that I read in the scriptures. It doesn't make sense to combine verses.

Thank you for sharing.
 
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that has absolutely nothing to do with John 1:1

you're diverting.
It is an important question, because you use the word Christ. I am not diverting anything. I have already said that the Greek says, "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and God was the word." Let me know if you find anything wrong with that according to the Greek. I simply do not know Greek except theos and logos.
 
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previously discussed more than once.
it grows quite tiresome going in circles with you.


Isaiah 42:8 says explicitly that God does not share His glory with anyone.
John 17:5 says explicitly that The Son shares exactly the same glory as the Father.
therefore JESUS OF NAZARETH is God.
John 17:5 does no such thing. Jesus talks about the glory that He shared with the Father. God is not sharing His glory with anyone in that.
 

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I know that there is a context for everything that I read in the scriptures. It doesn't make sense to combine verses.

Thank you for sharing.
You need to learn how to read the Bible then. I’m totally baffled by your consistent slapping Jesus in the face. Jesus Christ wept for you; don’t you know that? He was crucified for you. Don’t you care? You claim to be a Christian, but you show no evidence of it. Over and over and over, you deny the Savior of the world, the Redeemer, the King of kings and Lord of lords. You seem to be enjoying all the attention you’re getting. Well that’s probably all you’ll ever get because one day it will be too late for you. . . . Selah
 
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You need to learn how to read the Bible then. I’m totally baffled by your consistent slapping Jesus in the face. Jesus Christ wept for you; don’t you know that? He was crucified for you. Don’t you care? You claim to be a Christian, but you show no evidence of it. Over and over and over, you deny the Savior of the world, the Redeemer, the King of kings and Lord of lords. You seem to be enjoying all the attention you’re getting. Well that’s probably all you’ll ever get because one day it will be too late for you. . . . Selah
I accept all of these things selahsays. I don't know why you say that I don't.