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over 14 years of teaching a Sunday School class for deaf children, 20 years of sponsoring children in other countries, taking supplies to missionaries in Mexico and Arizona, sending out bible study tapes all across Mexico and S. America, supporting 3 family members from becoming homeless (took everything I had)...yet I have Christians telling me you're not putting Jesus first, you're not really trusting GOD, you're not doing enough for the church....that's why GOD is not answering your request.....you're just not doing or believing enough. It's surprising I still believe and trust GOD when there is no evidence of him doing anything for my request.
 

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over 14 years of teaching a Sunday School class for deaf children, 20 years of sponsoring children in other countries, taking supplies to missionaries in Mexico and Arizona, sending out bible study tapes all across Mexico and S. America, supporting 3 family members from becoming homeless (took everything I had)...yet I have Christians telling me you're not putting Jesus first, you're not really trusting GOD, you're not doing enough for the church....that's why GOD is not answering your request.....you're just not doing or believing enough. It's surprising I still believe and trust GOD when there is no evidence of him doing anything for my request.
In James 2:26 we read, “For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.” The context of this verse is found in James 2:14-26. In these verses, James is rebuking those who claim to have faith in Christ but don't show it by their good works.
 

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"If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words—those of our Lord Jesus Christ—and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited, understanding nothing but having a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth," 1 Timothy 6:3-5

Isn't it about time to leave John B. alone? People who keep engaging him are part of the problem and seem to be as deprived of good sense as he is.
 

Cameron143

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There is already gold in heaven.....as I hope there will also be sex.
Gold is devalued their in the presence of God. Everything is.

Turn your eyes upon Jesus.
Look full into His wonderful face.
And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
In the light of His glory and grace.
 

JohnB

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Gold is devalued their in the presence of God. Everything is.

Turn your eyes upon Jesus.
Look full into His wonderful face.
And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
In the light of His glory and grace.
Interesting you devalue sex? Do you devalue food and work since we will do both in heaven?
 

Cameron143

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Interesting you devalue sex? Do you devalue food and work since we will do both in heaven?
I didn't devalue anything. But where Jesus is, the true value of things is seen...they pale in comparison to Him. When we no longer see through a glass darkly, we will see His matchless and incomparable value.
 
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I have a question.....do people enjoy sex? why wouldn't you want it in heaven?
Switch Topics, do WE, when it becomes obviously clear you cannot give another excuse for this being mostly your own fault, for YOU, being Single?
 

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It's surprising I still believe and trust GOD when there is no evidence of him doing anything for my request.
The perfect poster boy for entitlement complex.
"After all I've done, God owes me this."
"If I had not given all my money to God, I would be able to afford a silicone sex-dolly by now! :mad:
 

JohnB

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I didn't devalue anything. But where Jesus is, the true value of things is seen...they pale in comparison to Him. When we no longer see through a glass darkly, we will see His matchless and incomparable value.
That has nothing to do with us ruling, eating, drinking and having houses in the kingdom
 

JohnB

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The perfect poster boy for entitlement complex.
"After all I've done, God owes me this."
"If I had not given all my money to God, I would be able to afford a silicone sex-dolly by now! :mad:
Store for yourself treasures in heaven....
 

JohnB

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Switch Topics, do WE, when it becomes obviously clear you cannot give another excuse for this being mostly your own fault, for YOU, being Single?
Once again....explain how it's my fault....so far no one has.
 

JohnB

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The perfect poster boy for entitlement complex.
"After all I've done, God owes me this."
"If I had not given all my money to God, I would be able to afford a silicone sex-dolly by now! :mad:
Faith without works is dead.

But someone may say, “You [claim to] have faith and I have [good] works; show me your [alleged] faith without the works [if you can], and I will show you my faith by my works [that is, by what I do].” James 2:18
 

Cameron143

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That has nothing to do with us ruling, eating, drinking and having houses in the kingdom
Of course it does. EVERYTHING pales in significance to Jesus. When one is consumed in Him, our focus turns from all else and finds its contentment and completion in Him.
You should have at least found some experience of this in your worship, where all that matters to you is Jesus, and all else has been banished except His presence. If you have not experienced this, and I suspect you haven't, you should seek this out from God.
 

JohnB

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Of course it does. EVERYTHING pales in significance to Jesus. When one is consumed in Him, our focus turns from all else and finds its contentment and completion in Him.
You should have at least found some experience of this in your worship, where all that matters to you is Jesus, and all else has been banished except His presence. If you have not experienced this, and I suspect you haven't, you should seek this out from God.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7:21-23...that does not mean you just go to church and listen to Christian music. Where are your works?
 

Cameron143

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21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7:21-23...that does not mean you just go to church and listen to Christian music. Where are your works?
I wasn't referring to worship in church. I was referring to personal worship. And works in the verses you speak of wasn't what kept these people out of heaven, but the fact that they had no intimate relationship with God...I never knew you.