Predestination; are fates set in some cases?
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Going from one extreme to the other really does not help your case. You just come across
as unbalanced while refusing to own up to the fact that you repeatedly falsely accuse me...
while trying to make yourself look good at the same time. Like referring to yourself as wise
because you think you refrained your lips in a post that was almost eight hundred words.
as unbalanced while refusing to own up to the fact that you repeatedly falsely accuse me...
while trying to make yourself look good at the same time. Like referring to yourself as wise
because you think you refrained your lips in a post that was almost eight hundred words.
There is no question that predestination is a Bible truth. The problem arises when people misrepresent and misapply it. There are only certain specific things which are predestined. and definitely not according to Calvinistic misrepresentation.
1. The glorification and perfection of the saints is predestined. See Ephesians 1.
2. The crucifixion and perfect sacrifice of Christ was predestined from before the foundation of the world. See 1 Peter 1.
3. The appointment of certain men to certain ministries e.g. Paul from his mother's womb. .
Other than that God allows men to exercise their free wills and face the consequences. And because of His divine foreknowledge He knows what those consequences will be. So in that sense they are predestined. But not because God was responsible for the end result. No one's salvation is predestined since salvation is offered to all mankind.
1. The glorification and perfection of the saints is predestined. See Ephesians 1.
2. The crucifixion and perfect sacrifice of Christ was predestined from before the foundation of the world. See 1 Peter 1.
3. The appointment of certain men to certain ministries e.g. Paul from his mother's womb. .
Other than that God allows men to exercise their free wills and face the consequences. And because of His divine foreknowledge He knows what those consequences will be. So in that sense they are predestined. But not because God was responsible for the end result. No one's salvation is predestined since salvation is offered to all mankind.
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Many years ago I brewed a mixture of loose tea leaves and drank some of it before leaving for work...
It was pre-2000, before I had a car. Walking up the street, suddenly I knew I was going to hurl.
Good thing there was an open restaurant near-by! But no long term effects beyond that.
Is your dialysis done now, or did the leaves do more permanent damage?
It was pre-2000, before I had a car. Walking up the street, suddenly I knew I was going to hurl.
Good thing there was an open restaurant near-by! But no long term effects beyond that.
Is your dialysis done now, or did the leaves do more permanent damage?
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