Israel and Saudi Arabia

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ZNP

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The Gaza strip is 25 miles by 7.5 miles,,,they attacked Israel,,,bulldoze every house and building into the sea and make a fishing pier out of it...
2 million people live in the Gaza strip. Yes that should be a big enough atrocity to unify 1.8 billion muslims against Israel.
 

iamsoandso

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2 million people live in the Gaza strip. Yes that should be a big enough atrocity to unify 1.8 billion muslims against Israel.
lol, like their already not,,
 

iamsoandso

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the u a e said today that they support Israel.

so, there is that..

Then that's the go ahead from the UAE,,,end the issue now or face it every 50 or 60 years just like day before yesterday ...
 

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Hamas is looking to unify the West Bank with Gaza, cut Israel in half and unite with the Palestinians. Meanwhile Hezbollah is massing at the Northern border with 250,000 soldiers who fought in Syria to open up a second front on Israel. At the same time Iran has provided a corridor for the Taliban to roll through their country to get to Israel with $80 billion in US equipment. Also, Russia has conducted a cyberattack on Israel. This has all taken place in the first 24 hours, this is obviously a well coordinated and planned attack.

The thugs running through the streets of Israel are trying to seize hostages, no doubt to put in military sites to discourage air attacks.
The Gog / Magog war may be at the door.
 

ZNP

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The Gog / Magog war may be at the door.
Before the Gog / Magog war we need to have the judgement on the Great Babylon. Peter said that judgment must begin with the House of God. My understanding of that is the rapture of Philadelphia and the judgement on the apostate church.
 

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Before the Gog / Magog war we need to have the judgement on the Great Babylon. Peter said that judgment must begin with the House of God. My understanding of that is the rapture of Philadelphia and the judgement on the apostate church.
I disagree. Israel will need seven years to clean up the carnage after the Gog / Magog war, so it can happen at anytime now.
 

ZNP

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I disagree. Israel will need seven years to clean up the carnage after the Gog / Magog war, so it can happen at anytime now.
"Clean up the carnage" is more accurately described as "burning the weapons of war". Which suggests nuclear fuel. The distinction is important because you could be burning fuel as you fight Armageddon. Seven years is the length of the 70th week in Daniel and so the "pre tribulation" rapture could easily precede this war. The judgement on the Great Babylon takes 1 hour. Whenever you have a power vacuum among criminal cartels like national governments you get a war. Think of the rapture and the destruction of the Great Babylon as the removal of the critical piece that causes the Jenga tower to collapse and propels the world to war. This in turn sets the stage for the Antichrist to create peace in exchange for the world agreeing to give him absolute power.
 

JohnDB

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Middle Eastern morality is not the same as European and descended nations morality.

Deception is not considered to be a sin or even a crime. Because in their minds the understanding is dependent upon the person deceived and not investigating.

Lying is something completely different from deception and very much is a sin and crime.

Now with these claims of "support" there is no material support mentioned whatsoever....nor is there going to be except by the radical Muslims. Especially by Saudi Arabia. They might donate a token...because Muslim law demands it but it won't be any substantial amount. Like a nickel or a penny given to fund a $10 cup of coffee.

So....watch what happens...not the claims.
 

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Saudis Put Talks on Normalizing Ties With Israel 'On Hold'

"Saudi Arabia has reportedly paused its negotiations on normalizing ties with Israel, apparently taking a wait-and-see approach on how Israel's war with Hamas in Gaza plays out.David Ross, a Middle East expert who worked in the Carter, George H.W. Bush, Clinton, and Obama administrations, told The New York Times on Monday he spoke with a Saudi official after Hamas attacked Israel on Saturday and "for the moment, it is all on hold."

"There are two basic variables: the number of casualties and the atmosphere related to that, and second, if the Israelis come out of this looking like they have decimated Hamas as an organization," Ross said. "The point is, in the next few weeks as Israel focuses on dealing with Hamas in Gaza — and whether it also faces Hezbollah in the north — the results may well determine whether the Saudis will want to go ahead.""
 

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God may well be putting the brakes on because the time is not quite ready. Perhaps, there's more harvest to gather. Souls are most precious to God. We will see...
 

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This vicious attack may well create sympathy from the antichrist toward Israel, setting the stage for the 7-year covenant with many. Israel would see such a man as their long-awaited Messiah.
 

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This vicious attack may well create sympathy from the antichrist toward Israel, setting the stage for the 7-year covenant with many. Israel would see such a man as their long-awaited Messiah.
I'm not hearing sympathy for Israel. I'm hearing just the opposite.
 

Gideon300

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Yes, I too do believe that the Abraham Accords will lead to the "covenant with many". The speed at which these accords are developing is quite stunning; it would have been inconceivable to believe just 4 or 5 years ago.
It will be interesting to see what happens after the Hamas attack on Israel. Some say that one reason for the attack was to sabotage the Saudi/Israel accord.
 

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I'm not hearing sympathy for Israel. I'm hearing just the opposite.
"French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday denounced “unacceptable blackmail” by Hamas after the Palestinian terror group threatened to execute some of the around 150 hostages it abducted in a weekend assault on Israel during which hordes of invading gunmen killed hundreds of people in the south of the country.

"The blackmail by Hamas after its terrorist acts is odious and unacceptable," Macron told reporters on a visit to Germany.

The French president added that he considered it “likely” that Hamas had received outside “help” in its attack against Israel."
Macron condemns 'unacceptable blackmail' of Hamas threat to execute Gaza hostages
 

Gideon300

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I'm not hearing sympathy for Israel. I'm hearing just the opposite.
Yes, and from some surprising quarters. Anyone would think that some nations fear the millions of Muslims that have settled there are a threat.