do you think the Lord Jesus would refuse to use her proper pronouns?
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do you think the Lord Jesus would refuse to use her proper pronouns?
Oh, please.
Go back and reread the thread.
I have repeatedly and caringly asked this woman questions about her situation and her past, and I have also repeatedly offered compassionate and godly advice which she has seemingly repeatedly rejected.
Seriously, do not tell me what I have done when you are apparently totally ignorant of what I have actually done here. It is all in my posts...for anybody to see. Beyond that, I have sincerely and humbly prayed to God for this woman several times, and I have also petitioned others to do the same.
Again, this is reality.
You know, God does not look too favorably on those who condemn the just while justifying the wicked. In fact, he calls such people an abomination.
Pro 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.
If this woman desires to do things God's way, then there are plenty of people here who are willing to help her.
If not, then that is her sin, and her sin alone.
Mom I love you and normally absultely respect and honor whatever you say but you see I went after him personally I kneeeled before him not even daring to lisft my head begging him to show me the actual truth the real thing I was cahnged I didn't even excpect it but he then came personally his presnece at least four times overflooded my rrom His heart the glory the wonder of God is in his presence I even refused to go to a vitial eye doctor appointment and my eye are bad really bad I may lose my sight completely but I made a vow to him before I even lost my sight that in order to see with his eyes I would give up myown my eyes cannot see or understand only his eyes was I after
Ironically I becamde legally blind but it was his eyes I was after to see as he does to see and really see even in the depht od in my room in facrt the hearts and souls of others and hge has appeared many times in fact the fear of the lord was the the firt I turly understood it I surrender everythin no matter what I may see as truth I gave my self kneeeling my king in reverense his kingship and power wuill make your body tremble but you just smile this is the all powerful king the one who is so strong your body cannot help with it you tremble and you say to him I am under your feet.
I only speak of what he has shown and taught me I didn't seek the scitures I sought after the real thing he is the truth the way and the life I cannot speak enough how true this is,
You see I have had pickinites with himhe bro8ght wine bread and a piece of wedding cake I can honestly say I invited him and he lives with me not as ab idea or method of faith and alavation the core reason for me the very results of seeking his heart his heart is all I am after I want to knowhim and even made the most insanse request to him that I could know and have him more than anyone else has nore than even those in hevean would know him he is my treasure thinking about him warms my heart and when he decide to visit I knowe him his presence who he is his nature his traites what makes him him.
I cannot express to you the many times jmy life was indanger how many demoic attack I have do deal with on my own but I beca
Yes but did you bother to reach out to her? I was comppelled to reach out because I felt an urgency when she told me she was suicidal and the deatials I am noy allowed to say without permission but lets just say you chose to use the scriptures to point out their sins you can say you had compassion but then why did they see me as different among other Christians they found it ironic I am legally blind when I could see them.
I went after them personally The damage done to them the unfariness they have had to deal with the Christians who only bombarded them with is wrong with them instead of showing who God sees them as who he says they are what he satys their worth is. Don't bother telling me you tried your intention was to point out their sin their flaws what they are doing wrong it was never for the truth because the truth soothes and calms the flesh allowing for the spirit to take focus it will not be an instant process it will require you to be willing to put in the effort to never give up on them
That is what love is, not the scriptures you use to show them wrong the love of God sees past all of that they see a damages and wounded heart not what they are wrong in or their sins.
You can say whatever you want about me but as long as I can reach and help heal a soul like this is all I care about. I will willingly die for this person I may have even pverloaded them with affection but at the very least I showed them what they never got from others
Believe me we are running out of time the difference betwenn the doctrinal and spiritual the ones who bare his heart and those who are like pharisees being very well adept to the scriptures but were blind to Jesus all your doctrine your knowledge of scriptures will not matter in the least bit the scriptures are not somethinh you can reason with you cannpot use logic with them as many do they study the word of God but more often than not go into debates for battle their understanding vs others never to help them or guide them never to use it to give life.
People often tell me how I don't use scripture I used to but now I don't because you all have for so many years used his word so casually to fit your view or what you are trying to say you debate with scripture but their always another verse that seemingly refutes your and vise versa
True I only use the scriptures when I feel lead to and many have a problem withy me not using the scriptures to prove what I say and that is the problem the spirit speaks not from knowledge but from a willing and open heart.
What I say I want to be of the scriptures even if it is not posting verses to prove my point I would rather speak of the Scripures than to misuse like so may of you do.
Is his word a toy to you? is it just words to you? I have reverence and respect for his word I do not use it except rarely because his word has been spoken many many times and people pride themselves in their knowledge of scripture yet all I have seen is everyone debating using the scripture to prove themselves right and others wrong
I respect his word I refuse to use it just to prove my point that was never what the word of God was for if he leads me to use it then yes I will but I have seen how casually you all treat his word and don't say it is for truth it is just to prove and disprove.
I am on a path where the scriptures come alive where they don't hurt others but give life and hope and people like this are a prime example
I have had problems with my chest ever since the beginning as a child. It freaked me out to shave my legs too. Freaked me out to be told to sit like a girl, wouldn't. Make up, wouldn't. All of that female nonsense hurt as a kid too. I didn't train myself to be in pain. My chest pain will knock me out of thoughts I'd rather be having. And any reduction in masculinity kills me as an adult. So God knows I would rather be separated from him who made this all possible. Because it's hell on earth for me as it is. But I still feel God's presence in the way he shows up.
I was laying in a mental hospital wishing I could read that scripture where it says that Jesus is preparing a place for us. There's a bible in the main area so I went to check it out. Had no idea where it was. First thing I flipped to was John chapter 14. So I live on what God is doing in my life not what others tell me, and I love God so much in thinking about that story.
I have had many miracles only believable to me, I prayed for God to call me male. Two weeks later I looked at my phone reflection exactly when this song was saying "who is this man I see, starring back at me".
Whose going to care but me.
So right now I'm able to worship God, but once the pain hits and anything reduces my masculinity I will lose it on God again. I can look to my life for the wild blessings I have, no ones around me, except good friends, all those see me as male. I can find things to praise God for, but being reduced in masculinity because of being transgender problems, that kills me.
When you replace God's word with mystical experiences the only frame of reference for what is true are your own subjective impressions. These are highly unreliable; they shift and change. That's why He gave us His unchanging word; the solid rock upon which to build. You've clearly gone off the deep end into mysticism.
Yes! Yes, He cannot lie so if the Lord made some one to be a man.... the Lord will always call that person a he.
It seems that some Christians think loving sinners means to continue to condone their sin. I've already posted my own words concerning this in this thread, but I'm posting an article from elsewhere to help us all learn to love a sinner without enabling them to continue in their sin. You can click on the title for the original title. The website also has other great articles on Christian living!
Sin is a decision that is rooted in a heart that is not fully surrendered to Christ (Matthew 15:18–19). The condition of our hearts is our own personal responsibility. The choices we make, the ways we spend our time, and the people we spend it with, are a few of the things that affect the states of our hearts. Even though we may influence others and be influenced by others, we are ultimately responsible for our own behaviors (Romans 14:12; Matthew 12:36).
Many times, people are led to sin due to pressure from friends, family, or a spouse. They would rather not ruffle any feathers in the relationship, so they indulge in a sin they would otherwise be avoiding (1 Corinthians 15:33; Proverbs 22:24). If we are pressured into sinning by others, we need to be aware that the root cause of it is idolatry because we are valuing others' opinions and desires for us more than we are God's (Exodus 20:3; 34:14; 1 John 5:21). When Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness, trying to entice Him to sin, Jesus responded by placing God in His rightful place as supreme Lord. Luke 4:8 says: "And Jesus answered him, 'It is written, "You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve."'"
It nearly goes without saying that most of us do not consciously present people with opportunities to sin. We can avoid enabling someone else's sin in the same way that we personally avoid sinning: by keeping godly standards and boundaries in our own lives. We can most effectively lead others in holy living by our own example (1 Timothy 4:12; 1 Peter 1:13–19). As Christians, maintaining a sinful lifestyle is no longer an option for us (Romans 6:1–2; 1 John 3:9). Jesus was victorious over sin on our behalf and He wants to see us walk in victory over the power of sin (John 10:10; Romans 8:37). We are to seek the things of Christ: "If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God" (Colossians 3:1).
It is inevitable that each one of us and those we care about will sin. God is gracious to forgive us and grant us mercy (Psalm 145:8; 1 John 1:8–9). Sin becomes a greater concern when it is habitual in the life of a believer.
You can't prevent someone from making their own decisions, so how can you help someone who continues choosing to sin? Allow them to experience the consequences. The Bible is clear that sinning has repercussions. When a person sins, allow him/her to feel the consequence of those sins (Galatians 6:7–9). You can love them through the process, but do not smooth their sins over as if they are a non-issue. In a sense, this would be enabling the sin to continue because you would be helping to minimize its severity (1 Timothy 5:22). Additionally, you would be preventing that person from gaining the wisdom and freedom from sin that God desires them to have. It's difficult to watch someone you care about go through a hard time, but sometimes these challenging seasons can be used by God to transform a person's life for His glory (2 Corinthians 3:18; 1 John 1:9; Romans 8:28–29).
We have free will and if we have surrendered our lives to Christ Jesus, He becomes our authority for every decision (2 Corinthians 10:5; Acts 5:29). We receive His grace and have the power of the Holy Spirit, which enables us to uphold godly standards of living. Titus 2:11–14 shows us how the transforming power of God's grace empowers us to live: "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works."
Because God has empowered us to live a life of righteousness, we should, by our own example, encourage others to do the same.
Hope this helps!
How can I keep from enabling someone else to sin?
From Compelling Truth website.
(Bolding and italicization for emphasis are my own.)
From Compelling Truth website.
(Bolding and italicization for emphasis are my own.)
Sin is a decision that is rooted in a heart that is not fully surrendered to Christ (Matthew 15:18–19). The condition of our hearts is our own personal responsibility. The choices we make, the ways we spend our time, and the people we spend it with, are a few of the things that affect the states of our hearts. Even though we may influence others and be influenced by others, we are ultimately responsible for our own behaviors (Romans 14:12; Matthew 12:36).
Many times, people are led to sin due to pressure from friends, family, or a spouse. They would rather not ruffle any feathers in the relationship, so they indulge in a sin they would otherwise be avoiding (1 Corinthians 15:33; Proverbs 22:24). If we are pressured into sinning by others, we need to be aware that the root cause of it is idolatry because we are valuing others' opinions and desires for us more than we are God's (Exodus 20:3; 34:14; 1 John 5:21). When Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness, trying to entice Him to sin, Jesus responded by placing God in His rightful place as supreme Lord. Luke 4:8 says: "And Jesus answered him, 'It is written, "You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve."'"
It nearly goes without saying that most of us do not consciously present people with opportunities to sin. We can avoid enabling someone else's sin in the same way that we personally avoid sinning: by keeping godly standards and boundaries in our own lives. We can most effectively lead others in holy living by our own example (1 Timothy 4:12; 1 Peter 1:13–19). As Christians, maintaining a sinful lifestyle is no longer an option for us (Romans 6:1–2; 1 John 3:9). Jesus was victorious over sin on our behalf and He wants to see us walk in victory over the power of sin (John 10:10; Romans 8:37). We are to seek the things of Christ: "If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God" (Colossians 3:1).
It is inevitable that each one of us and those we care about will sin. God is gracious to forgive us and grant us mercy (Psalm 145:8; 1 John 1:8–9). Sin becomes a greater concern when it is habitual in the life of a believer.
You can't prevent someone from making their own decisions, so how can you help someone who continues choosing to sin? Allow them to experience the consequences. The Bible is clear that sinning has repercussions. When a person sins, allow him/her to feel the consequence of those sins (Galatians 6:7–9). You can love them through the process, but do not smooth their sins over as if they are a non-issue. In a sense, this would be enabling the sin to continue because you would be helping to minimize its severity (1 Timothy 5:22). Additionally, you would be preventing that person from gaining the wisdom and freedom from sin that God desires them to have. It's difficult to watch someone you care about go through a hard time, but sometimes these challenging seasons can be used by God to transform a person's life for His glory (2 Corinthians 3:18; 1 John 1:9; Romans 8:28–29).
We have free will and if we have surrendered our lives to Christ Jesus, He becomes our authority for every decision (2 Corinthians 10:5; Acts 5:29). We receive His grace and have the power of the Holy Spirit, which enables us to uphold godly standards of living. Titus 2:11–14 shows us how the transforming power of God's grace empowers us to live: "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works."
Because God has empowered us to live a life of righteousness, we should, by our own example, encourage others to do the same.
Hope this helps!
We should not be teaching the false doctrines of OSAS!
Those that tell people "you can never ever never never lose your salvation" are teaching a license to sin and are turning the grace of God in to lawlessness.
Titus 2:11,12
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
OSAS isn't the apostasy. Turning the grace of God into a license to sin is. That's what Jude 1:4 is referring to. People who teach and do this is the problem, not the doctrine.
I really like what you said to this young lady. I’m sure she’s having a very difficult painful life. I know what it’s like to be in pain although it’s not the pain that she’s going through. It sure is nice to be able to read stuff from other Christians, it’s very helpful. I hope if I share my issues I can get you to respond to me. My name is Pam and I hope your word helped her. God bless you.
Keep your focus on this.
And this.
Brother Peter began to sink
when he took his eyes
off of the LORD.
Do not ever look at your circumstances
Whether they are good or bad.
That is making you doubt, and it’s keeping you in a state of defeat.
So Satan can go before the Throne of God and accuse.
Revelation 12:10 KJV
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Matthew 14:30-31 KJV
But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
[31] And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
Where God has worked in your life,
Go forward from there.
We cannot overcome in our own strength, or we will say,
“I did it” and God is not glorified.
God is showing you how powerless you are without Him.
Give all of your pain to God, cast that burden at the LORDS feet.
In prayer, You can,
Bind the powers of darkness over you in the name of Jesus Christ,
And claim His blood shed for you,
(it’s there in heaven, on the mercy seat)
To cleanse you from ALL sin.
Isaiah 66:1-2 KJV
Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? [2] For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
So you hate dresses? Then wear jeans and a t-shirt. or whatever you want to wear. You do not have to be a male to where mens clothes.. People do it all the time
You like doing men's things? I know alot of women like this. Just like I know alot of men who like hanging out with girls.. and doing girls things.
what we wear or what we do does not declare what sex we are. It just declares what we like to do.
an effeminate male is still a male. he is not a female
A masculine female is still a female, she is not a male.
male and female is decided by biology. Not by what we feel.
God made you perfectly the way you are. He loves you the way you are..
I'm sorry you're in pain. I too hated God once upon a time. I've been a Christian and studying the Bible for over 40 years now, allowing Him to slowly transform me into His image. When I was first born again, I had several diagnoses, including what is now call bipolar, also an alcoholic and drug addict (or abuser). I have had to overcome much and still work at it daily, allowing God's Word to transform my whole being.
Tell Him how you feel about everything, including your hatred of Him. He is able to take it.
Although I don't know your struggle, it sounds so hard and I'll keep you in my prayers;
You are so right about telling God how I feel, yesterday I got triggered and cursed God and God used the very music I was listening to at that moment to talk to me; the lyrics said "had to sit down talk to a pastor figure out what's really the matter" Twiztid, FTS. And it occurred to me no, I didn't understand what happened, I was just triggered. It took God only 10 minutes to comfort me, I felt so chased after by God! I pray "please don't discipline me in hot displeasure" psalm 6, and I feel heard.
As we draw near to God, He has promised to draw near to us. He is able to comfort, heal and deliver us. When I was a new Christian, I saw a Christian counselor. He asked if I wanted to know God's will for my life. Yes, I did. He then simply said to do what it says in Romans 12:1-2 and that took me on a new journey.
Hello again. Since I'm the curious type, I ask questions in order to get answers. So I hope you don't mind if I ask you this one. Why are/were you so unhappy with the gender you were born with? I was born female and can't say I've been unhappy with that.
Hi there, cool question
Basically a female body is not masculine, and I am repulsed by femininity. I cannot simply live as a tomboy because that is a ridiculous step down in masculinity that I cannot tolerate. Too many signs I'm male ever since I was a kid, the way I sat, no dresses or clothes, no make up no shaving legs, and when my chest grew in I freaked out. As an adult the second I found out transgender existed I was like that is me. The toys I choose, the colors I would pick, the types of conversations I have, every single thing is masculine across the board. Being thrown in and associated with females is just a horror in my life
Well, not quite everything across the board is masculine...lol. Sorry, just had to say that. It's my attempt at humor. So, I hope you get it and don't mind it. How old are you now?
So, you're different from other females. So am I. I can certainly relate to being different from others. I believe God made us that way, different from others.
If we are not teaching them to turn AWAY from their sin... then we are in fact condoning their sin.
Very few Christians have the guts to tell the funny people that.... they need to quit being funny and turn to the Lord.
OSAS teaching is leading others to live in sin... it';s a stumbling block to others and causing people to stumble is a sin.... so knock it off!
