Israel Declares War

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HeIsHere

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This is only about a 15-minute episode so it's a quick listen
Sam is on Israel s side in this
Sam is not worth listening to, sorry, he is disingenuous and has been revealed to be so.
 

Dude653

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Sam is not worth listening to, sorry, he is disingenuous and has been revealed to be so.
I like Sam Harris because he generally has nuanced opinions on things and he manages a ruffle the feathers of both the left and the right
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Israel gives more than 1.1 million people 24 hours to get out of Northern Gaza.

They say America must be ready to fight a war simultaneously with Russia, and China.

This is all a bunch of garbage for the nations are actually working together which controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

After WW1, League of Nations.

After WW2, United Nations.

And now it is time for a one world government that will be a balance between democracy and communism.

North Korea, China, Russia, and America are all working together as well as all the nations.

It is time to produce the New Age Christ which the nations will want the fighting to stop in Israel, and they will start harmonizing together and say they want peace for the nations governments are together, and they want to convince the people of the world to cooperate with each other for peace.

They want to make it look like everything is happening by coincidence but it is all a plan.

The world stage is coming into place. We are seeing the last days starting according to Scripture I believe.
 

shittim

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Sam is not worth listening to, sorry, he is disingenuous and has been revealed to be so.
That's why you are wrong about most everything, what you give yourself to, you become.
The Lord offers you truth, you insist on your own, human, failed, understanding.
It isn't too late to repent and return to Him, it WILL be too late soon.:)
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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This is speculation.

Well nothing bad happened to the US pertaining to nuking Japan. If you don't want to acknowledge that, it doesn't really matter anyway. God will do whatever He wants.


 

Moses_Young

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Well nothing bad happened to the US pertaining to nuking Japan. If you don't want to acknowledge that, it doesn't really matter anyway. God will do whatever He wants.
Isn't this like "prosperity gospel"? e.g. "If God is pleased with you, He will give you earthly treasure, but if He is angry with you, he will make you poor and miserable"? If that were true, the disciples and early Christians must have really displeased God, but we know that is nonsense (from Job). We also know some pretty evil pedophiles are currently in high government and societal positions and have lived very rich, prosperous lives. Is God pleased with them?
 

Moses_Young

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40 decapitated babies. What do you think God would tell King David to do in that situation? We're not talking about cheering or support. We are talking about complicit civilians.
Here you go. You fell for the emotional propaganda. The original picture was of a rescue dog. The question you should ask yourself, if any of the claims being made are true, is why would the Lamestream media and governments need to lie about any of it? It is to buy your emotional engagement, so you support the conflict they want to have.

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I'm not aware King David ever executed or killed anyone based on propaganda or lies, although he had many opportunities.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Here you go. You fell for the emotional propaganda. The original picture was of a rescue dog. The question you should ask yourself, if any of the claims being made are true, is why would the Lamestream media and governments need to lie about any of it? It is to buy your emotional engagement, so you support the conflict they want to have.

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I'm not aware King David ever executed or killed anyone based on propaganda or lies, although he had many opportunities.


All news outlets have talked on this story. I get that in this massacre it will be hard to verify stories. But until I see news outlets come out in this I won't believe it. But put this story aside, we have first hand accounts of what happened. Children were murdered, if they were beheaded, murdered is murdered. One is just desecrating bodies. So I couldn't rightly care if it's true or not. Children were murdered in their beds, in front of parents. That is vile! Are you arguing in support of terrorism?! Hamas doesn't care about Arab children being killed why should they care about a Jew? They flew into a music festival and murdered young people in cold blood. We have living eye witnesses. So I'll wait on the beheaded baby story, but what these terrorists have done, what we know they have done, doesn't make them any less vile!
 

Moses_Young

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All news outlets have talked on this story. I get that in this massacre it will be hard to verify stories. But until I see news outlets come out in this I won't believe it. But put this story aside, we have first hand accounts of what happened. Children were murdered, if they were beheaded, murdered is murdered. One is just desecrating bodies. So I couldn't rightly care if it's true or not. Children were murdered in their beds, in front of parents. That is vile! Are you arguing in support of terrorism?! Hamas doesn't care about Arab children being killed why should they care about a Jew? They flew into a music festival and murdered young people in cold blood. We have living eye witnesses. So I'll wait on the beheaded baby story, but what these terrorists have done, what we know they have done, doesn't make them any less vile!
I'm arguing in support of truth. The accused in a trial gets the benefit of cross-examining his accusers, to ensure the testimonies are true. And according to biblical justice, a false witness gets the penalty his crime would have caused the accused. In this case, as the crime is capital, the penalty for the false witness would be death. Media and governments are committing crimes God decreed are worthy of death.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I'm arguing in support of truth. The accused in a trial gets the benefit of cross-examining his accusers, to ensure the testimonies are true. And according to biblical justice, a false witness gets the penalty his crime would have caused the accused. In this case, as the crime is capital, the crime for the false witness would be death. Media and governments are committing crimes God decreed are worthy of death.

No one has yet said that was untrue, number one. Secondly this is war and the news said "unconfirmed reports" until they know for certain, that is what the report will say. Funny how you're ready to go OT on someones behind for a fake story, but a country defending itself, nadda.
 

Moses_Young

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@ Moses God doesn't keep His promises?? Do tell!! What was the red X for on that one? smh
Of course God keeps His promises. But you implied God has promised something I don't believe He did. Nowhere does God promise to keep criminal governments in power. But let me know if I've misread my bible, and I will uncross you.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Of course God keeps His promises. But you implied God has promised something I don't believe He did. Nowhere does God promise to keep criminal governments in power. But let me know if I've misread my bible, and I will uncross you.

No,this comment was about the land promise to Israel. I said God would keep that promise. I wasn't talking about earthly things per se, I was talking about the covenant that was unconditional and everlasting.
 

Moses_Young

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No,this comment was about the land promise to Israel. I said God would keep that promise. I wasn't talking about earthly things per se, I was talking about the covenant that was unconditional and everlasting.
You said Israel would win (as God keeps His promises and is still on His throne). But I don't think it will. I believe Netanyahu will back down, after committing war crimes and bombing civilians in Gaza, over a period of 1 - 2 weeks, as the Israeli government knows it cannot win a war at present, even with US support.

And in the months that follow, I believe that Netanyahu and his government's involvement (by his stand down orders, and even possibly his complicity) in the attacks will be exposed, and hopefully all the guilty will be brought to justice. If you consider that a win for Israel, I will remove the cross. But I thought you were meaning something more bloodthirsty?
 

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Leaning on ones own understanding runs counter to Christian behavior, we are to take ALL things to Him for His guidance, your post of "I believe", etc. shows this.
After accepting Christ and making Him Lord of our lives we are required to renew the mind to seeing the world through the Fathers eyes. We are no longer our own when He comes in to dwell and manifest through us.:)
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You said Israel would win (as God keeps His promises and is still on His throne). But I don't think it will. I believe Netanyahu will back down, after committing war crimes and bombing civilians in Gaza, over a period of 1 - 2 weeks, as the Israeli government knows it cannot win a war at present, even with US support.
Whoa, wait, where are you getting that comment from?? Israel is committing war crimes?! Bombing civilians?! Where in the world are you getting your info?!

And in the months that follow, I believe that Netanyahu and his government's involvement (by his stand down orders, and even possibly his complicity) in the attacks will be exposed, and hopefully all the guilty will be brought to justice. If you consider that a win for Israel, I will remove the cross. But I thought you were meaning something more bloodthirsty?
Don't worry about removing the x, I just like to know sometimes the reason a person uses it. I have nothing against you and we've kept this pretty calm I think. I believe very differently than some here, and I get that. I was raised with respect for the Jewish people. I was taught that to bless them was to be blessed and to curse them was to be cursed. Israel, God says, is the apple of His eye, and that His eyes remain on Israel. There is no other place on earth that gets God's attention in that manner. I'm not saying every decision Israel makes is correct, and God has taken the land from them when they disobeyed. But while they lost use of the land they never lost the deed. And they cannot because of the covenant that God made with Abraham. So when I say Israel will win I mean that they will remain, they will stand and they will flourish. I realize that they are not in a repentant state yet but I believe this is gearing up for the time when they will accept peace from the anti-Christ. We know where it goes from there. I believe we are at that point in history. [/QUOTE]