Israel Declares War

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shittim

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Anyone without perverted judgement and/or seared conscience will see it.:):unsure::coffee:(y)
 

shittim

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I don't take on the ground accounts as "hype". I have seen journalists weep at what they are seeing. These people aren't like us, they have seen horrific things. So when they weep, I take notice.

I don't care the issues they think they face. They were given a chance at land 4xs and turned it down and even Bill Clinton said there's no pleasing them. Israel wants peace, they have offered land for peace which is a blazed lot more than the Arabs have done. There is no such people as Palestinians, they have never had a king, they speak the Arabic language there is no proof of any history of a Palestinian people. It is not a country. It cannot be occupied because it is not a country. They have every freedom to come and go. They have places in gov't, they have hospitals they have schools and colleges, they have every opportunity! So stop listening to propaganda and look up some facts. If they will not accept the land offered then go home to the Arab countries they came from. People don't know a lie from the truth anymore. What is more frightening is that they don't care to know the truth![/Q

The seared conscience acts like this, can no longer tell right from wrong, ripe for the adversaries harvest.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I was not referring to Hamas, I was referring to the million Palestinians ordered to leave their homes/empty hospitals with no where to go.
That's called war. Most situations civilians are not given time to get out. Hamas hides behind civilians, they could care less about their lives. That's why Israel is telling them to get out of town. They put themselves in this situation, they could have land and they could have peace, they refused both.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I don't take on the ground accounts as "hype". I have seen journalists weep at what they are seeing. These people aren't like us, they have seen horrific things. So when they weep, I take notice.

I don't care the issues they think they face. They were given a chance at land 4xs and turned it down and even Bill Clinton said there's no pleasing them. Israel wants peace, they have offered land for peace which is a blazed lot more than the Arabs have done. There is no such people as Palestinians, they have never had a king, they speak the Arabic language there is no proof of any history of a Palestinian people. It is not a country. It cannot be occupied because it is not a country. They have every freedom to come and go. They have places in gov't, they have hospitals they have schools and colleges, they have every opportunity! So stop listening to propaganda and look up some facts. If they will not accept the land offered then go home to the Arab countries they came from. People don't know a lie from the truth anymore. What is more frightening is that they don't care to know the truth!
Did i say palestine? Nope. I said people in Gaza.
I dont care about the crocodile tears of propaganda network stooges paid to spin a narrative. I care about human lives and cruelty. I also dont care about Darbyist false Zionism.
Also some information for you. Rome named the place Philistia after the 70 Ad war. That is what later became Palistine region of the Ottoman empire. After one of the world war cant remember if its one or two but, Britan took it over and divided it up into 3 regions Jordan, Israel, and Palistine. Palistine was short lived because the immediate war that ensued. So while Palistine was never a country of its own it was and is recognized as a place and the people of that place have been called palestinian for a very long time. Now Darby's serious misinterpretation of scripture does not excuse jacobite of their cruelty nor of their continued hate for Christ and His church. Those Jacobites were transplanted there and displaced the people who came to there after Rome scattered the Jacobites. They had been there for over 1000 years until Britan took it over.
 

shittim

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Satan kills his own, hence the satan worshipers seeking death for themselves and their own, having been deluded by islame that this is the way. It is my understanding a mother in islame is only assured "heaven" by her son dying in "jihad".
Praying for the peace of Jerusalem and that He show Himself strong in this time.
blessings to His Own.:)(y):unsure:
 
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Locoponydirtman

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An unironic history of war proaganda they always claim the babies are being assaulted. Since ww1 that i know of. Remeber the Kuwait sometime war were we invaded and faught Iraq, and the accusation that the Iraqis were taking babie from incubators and then bayonetting them, but it turned out to be a lie. I do. Turns out it the girl telling the story was an ambassadors daughter who was use to cook a story to garner American sympathies.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Satan kills his own, hence the satan worshipers seeking death for themselves and their own, having been deluded by islame that this is the way. It is my understanding a mother in islame is only assured "heaven" by her son dying in "jihad".
Praying for the peace of Jerusalem and that He show Himself strong in this time.
blessings to His Own.:)(y):unsure:
Agree. The same with the satanic Jesus hating talmudists.
I do care about human suffering even the decieved and lost.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Did i say palestine? Nope. I said people in Gaza.
I dont care about the crocodile tears of propaganda network stooges paid to spin a narrative. I care about human lives and cruelty. I also dont care about Darbyist false Zionism.
So let get this straight, you're trusting a Youtube video over people on the scene seeing the massacre in real time. Is that what you're telling me? I saw a reporter walk into the home of a family that was massacred. There was blood all over the floor. On the refrigerator were drawings the children had done. There were bullet holes in the walls. The reporter broke down and cried and you think that's fake??! Are you all kidding me?! With all we have now to PROVE what is happening and you are just like the Holocaust, denying what happened under your nose. For the love of God Americans are hostages!! What is wrong with you all? This has NOTHING to do with Zionism!! This has to do with upwards of a thousand people butchered, raped, or taken hostage from their own homes the crack of dawn. Innocent women and children!! Do you have to be on site yourself to believe it happened?! My God! 200 people murdered at a music festival, had that happened here that would be a panic. But if over a thousand civilians were butchered in their homes with their children, raped, taken hostage America would be outraged, in shock, and frightened to death. Get your head out of the sand and look at what has happened. It's an atrocity, the worst attack on the Jews since the Holocaust!! Everyone says they would done something back then, they wouldn't have just stood by and let it happen. Good here's your chance, stand up, speak up and stop soft soaping what happened. smh




Also some information for you. Rome named the place Philistia after the 70 Ad war. That is what later became Palistine region of the Ottoman empire. After one of the world war cant remember if its one or two but, Britan took it over and divided it up into 3 regions Jordan, Israel, and Palistine. Palistine was short lived because the immediate war that ensued. So while Palistine was never a country of its own it was and is recognized as a place and the people of that place have been called palestinian for a very long time.
Don't know a thing about Darby, no good to talk about him. I follow what the Bible says and what history says. We already went over what history says, I posted it. It was a name the Romans gave as a slur against Israel. It has never been a country, all different peoples were there, it was a nomadic stopping place and basically barren when the Jews landed there. Mark Twain wrote about it, or was he a Darby follower?! The Jews bought land at exorbitant prices from rich Arab land owners. God said that the desert would bloom like a rose. And it has, thanks to the Jews. Now everyone wants a piece of the pie. Arabs were given a chance at land in 48 and they refused, 4x they refused. They have NO right to demand anything now.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Agree. The same with the satanic Jesus hating talmudists.
I do care about human suffering even the decieved and lost.
I'd be careful about what I say if I were you. Romans 11 tells us not to brag, if God can remove His chosen people how quickly will He remove the grafted in. The Jews are blinded for a time. God's hand is still on the Jewish people.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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So let get this straight, you're trusting a Youtube video over people on the scene seeing the massacre in real time. Is that what you're telling me? I saw a reporter walk into the home of a family that was massacred. There was blood all over the floor. On the refrigerator were drawings the children had done. There were bullet holes in the walls. The reporter broke down and cried and you think that's fake??! Are you all kidding me?! With all we have now to PROVE what is happening and you are just like the Holocaust, denying what happened under your nose. For the love of God Americans are hostages!! What is wrong with you all? This has NOTHING to do with Zionism!! This has to do with upwards of a thousand people butchered, raped, or taken hostage from their own homes the crack of dawn. Innocent women and children!! Do you have to be on site yourself to believe it happened?! My God! 200 people murdered at a music festival, had that happened here that would be a panic. But if over a thousand civilians were butchered in their homes with their children, raped, taken hostage America would be outraged, in shock, and frightened to death. Get your head out of the sand and look at what has happened. It's an atrocity, the worst attack on the Jews since the Holocaust!! Everyone says they would done something back then, they wouldn't have just stood by and let it happen. Good here's your chance, stand up, speak up and stop soft soaping what happened. smh






Don't know a thing about Darby, no good to talk about him. I follow what the Bible says and what history says. We already went over what history says, I posted it. It was a name the Romans gave as a slur against Israel. It has never been a country, all different peoples were there, it was a nomadic stopping place and basically barren when the Jews landed there. Mark Twain wrote about it, or was he a Darby follower?! The Jews bought land at exorbitant prices from rich Arab land owners. God said that the desert would bloom like a rose. And it has, thanks to the Jews. Now everyone wants a piece of the pie. Arabs were given a chance at land in 48 and they refused, 4x they refused. They have NO right to demand anything now.
No. Im trusting many videos of people who live there telling their stories over many years. Not bought and paid for propaganda network stooges who lie so much the truth would burn their mouths.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I'd be careful about what I say if I were you. Romans 11 tells us not to brag, if God can remove His chosen people how quickly will He remove the grafted in. The Jews are blinded for a time. God's hand is still on the Jewish people.
What did i brag about?
Caring about human suffering? I hope as Christians we all care about human suffering. I am sure you do as well.
 

ZNP

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Ethnic cleansing is wrong.
Was it wrong for the US to roll into Iraq during the Gulf wars, or was it wrong to roll into Germany during WWII?

I am wondering why when any other country has a war they don't describe it as "ethnic cleansing" but when Israel does they do?
 

Smoke

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This map is silly, certainly not based on the OT.

You have been lied to.

The foundation of the state of Israel in recent years has been a part of the predicted regathering of scattered Israel back to their ancient land...The present partial possession of the land is a token. The complete possession awaits the coming of Israel's Redeemer" (The Millennial Kingdom: A Basic Text in Premillennial Theology, John F. Walvoord, p 185, 1983 AD)

False: the land promise was fulfilled in 1406 BC.

The New Testament clearly shows no interest in the further question of the land itself. :unsure:

Jesus never mentioned it, He knew it had been fulfilled.

For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith (Rom. 4:13).

The message of salvation was preached by Paul and he said it was the hope of Israel, not some future land promise as Mosaic Jews.

“For this reason, therefore, I requested to see you and to speak with you, for I am wearing this chain for the sake of the hope of Israel.” (Acts 28:20)
This is true. The Ultra Orthodox Jews point this out as well, but the secular Zionist Jews ignored them and pushed for it 50 years before Israel was founded. The Torah teaches that their Messiah must come first before they come back from exile. All of this is confusing and doesn't make any sense to displace modern-day inhabitants and steal their homes. I'm saying homes and not land because the land has been promised by God, but not at the expensive of having to steal homes. For some reason, many (not all) Christians don't seem to care. Unfortunately, we have to be worried about being cancelled by stating facts which show Israel contradicts themselves.

I'm also certain that the Torah doesn't condone apartheid on Palestinians either.
 

ZNP

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Israel is in the process of ethnic cleansing. 1.1 million people have been told to leave their homes most are children. How many will die in this process.

Their leader is corrupt end of story.

Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated merely because he advocated for peace.
Didn't the same thing just happen in Ukraine? Why didn't they call that ethnic cleansing?
 

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This is true. The Ultra Orthodox Jews point this out as well, but the secular Zionist Jews ignored them and pushed for it 50 years before Israel was founded. The Torah teaches that their Messiah must come first before they come back from exile. All of this is confusing and doesn't make sense. Unfortunately, we have to be worried about being cancelled by stating facts which shows Israel contradicts themselves.
Thank you, some people are so propagandized in one direction only it is truly impressive.
 

ZNP

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Jesus never mentions this unfulfilled promise that alone should make you reflect on your position.
Of course He mentioned it and said it would be fulfilled in the Millennial reign of Jesus.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

"This alone should make you reflect on your position."
 

ZNP

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Because you have no solution. I'm not trying to upset you. But you are too emotionally invested to view the situation objectively.
I have a solution and have already shared it. Fall on your knees and declare "blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth"