Israel Declares War

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Everlasting-Grace

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Under our new two-tiered justice system in America it doesn't really seem to matter what was done. All that really seems to matter is WHO did it. We quickly learned that beginning with the 2020 Presidential election and during the summer of 2020 and of course on J6 and beyond.
I think we can go back to 2016 and see the beginnings.

remember, Clinton said Trump stole the election. yet nothing was said.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Under our new two-tiered justice system in America it doesn't really seem to matter what was done. All that really seems to matter is WHO did it. We quickly learned that beginning with the 2020 Presidential election and during the summer of 2020 and of course on J6 and beyond.
its sad,

the dems are united and want to destroy america

and the repubs are split and can not even elect a speaker. let alone fight the dems

we have little hope
 

ZNP

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I think we can go back to 2016 and see the beginnings.

remember, Clinton said Trump stole the election. yet nothing was said.
What about 2008? The behavior of thousands of bankers clearly violated their fiduciary responsibility, it is a crime that many other bankers have gone to prison for and been sued for yet they said "they were too big to fail".
 

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19 Oct! Israeli Navy Finished Off Hamas in One Hit! Critical Area Evacuated for Final Blow!
 

shittim

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His kingdom come, His will be done, if we have failed to maintain the Republic He graciously provided, let it be so.
We know if we repent and turn He will heal our land, yet, the world events revolve around his Own in Israel, praying for the peace of Jerusalem.
 

ZNP

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His kingdom come, His will be done, if we have failed to maintain the Republic He graciously provided, let it be so.
We know if we repent and turn He will heal our land, yet, the world events revolve around his Own in Israel, praying for the peace of Jerusalem.
Israel will not have peace unless they repent of their sins, and take Jesus as their atoning sacrifice.

Like anyone else they will have to bring forth fruit worthy of repentance.
 

shittim

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God keeps His promises, they are still His Chosen People and He will show Himself strong that He is their God, and they are His Chosen People. The Bible is truth.:)
 

ZNP

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God keeps His promises, they are still His Chosen People and He will show Himself strong that He is their God, and they are His Chosen People. The Bible is truth.:)
Being His chosen people is not some kind of teflon that means they are immune to sin. They are chosen to be an example to us. They were chosen to be the vehicle that brings Jesus to the world, as a result the OT is instructive to those of us in the NT. But Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No one, not even "God's chosen people" come unto the Father but by Him and that is what the OT Says because no one enters the Holy of Holies without the blood of the atoning sacrifice.
 

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There's also the issue of Hamas being funded by Iran... and Biden just gave Iran 6 Billion Dollars.
In theory, that money could have paid for the big attack that just occurred.

I'm no expert on this situation... but it doesn't look very good to me.

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ThereRoseaLamb

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I think the issue does deeper than this.

What's your beef with my two comments?

"That is naive beyond belief, you need to read their holy book."

No! Rape is not bad, murdering parents in front of children is not bad, taking children and babies as hostages is not bad. Chewing gum in school is bad. What they have done is called terrorism, and it's horrific!!
Seriously, stop it please. I saw a journalist walk through a bloody home with bullet holes in the walls. Childrens pictures on the fridge. Parents are on all news channels crying because their children were murdered or taken hostage. 2000 Israelis were dragged out of their homes and murdered in cold blood. Please don't talk to me about propaganda. It's just a ridiculous comment.


So what's your problem with those facts?!
 

ZNP

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What's your beef with my two comments?

"That is naive beyond belief, you need to read their holy book."

No! Rape is not bad, murdering parents in front of children is not bad, taking children and babies as hostages is not bad. Chewing gum in school is bad. What they have done is called terrorism, and it's horrific!!
Seriously, stop it please. I saw a journalist walk through a bloody home with bullet holes in the walls. Childrens pictures on the fridge. Parents are on all news channels crying because their children were murdered or taken hostage. 2000 Israelis were dragged out of their homes and murdered in cold blood. Please don't talk to me about propaganda. It's just a ridiculous comment.


So what's your problem with those facts?!
I don't think it is fair to judge America for Hiroshima as though it is an event that stands alone, you have to see it in the context of WW2 and being attacked by Japan.

Likewise, I don't think it is fair to judge Japan for Pearl Harbor as though it is an event that stands alone. You have to judge it in the context of trying to cut off oil to Japan.

The same is true of the Hatfields and McCoys, every event was a response to a previous event and it goes back for years and years.

We have court trials where a person is guilty of murder but they bring up a long history of abuse and torture as a mitigating circumstance and generally the court will take that into account.
 
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I saw a journalist walk through a bloody home with bullet holes in the walls. Childrens pictures on the fridge. Parents are on all news channels crying because their children were murdered or taken hostage. 2000 Israelis were dragged out of their homes and murdered in cold blood. Please don't talk to me about propaganda. It's just a ridiculous comment.

So what's your problem with those facts?!
Please tell me you know TV "journalists" will often pose on a fake set or scene? Just because you saw it on TV doesn't mean it happened. They've been doing this for decades, but I'm sure the technology now is so good, it's probably hard to prove from the footage alone. But we know about fake news, we know about fake journalism on fake sets. That you saw it on TV doesn't make it real. It could be - but it's hardly evidence that you should expect anyone to be convinced by. The moon landing was on TV too, and most of us these days know how fake that was.

And if you can't see a propaganda war going on (by both sides), you're not really going to be impartial enough to make reasonable judgements.
 

shittim

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Any Christian should have indwelling Holy Spirit to guide in all truth, these horrific scenes are what satans worshipers did.
Our faith is NOT an outward form, Jesus warned against being outward form, His Own in relationship with Him are doing greater works than He, just as He taught.
Mere mental assent to His existence is NOT faith, if we aren't acting on and growing in it, it isn't genuine faith.
best wishes
 
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I think it has been confirmed that the hospital incident didnt happen. That the ordinance hit the parking lot and did little damage to the building, and injured very few people.
Proving liars on both sides. Palestinian propaganda saying it was Israelis, Israeli propaganda claiming it was Palestinians, and yet the hospital is intact. But some people still continue to support their "team"? Sorta like Biden indicated - lol. Don't support the "other team", or better, either team.