Israel Declares War

[Everlasting-Grace]

From my point of view, it is clear to me that bebe intends to push all the Palestinians into the sea. Sparing no one.
In the past the Israelis used their IDF sniper teams to single out and murder Palestinian children.
Today he will use his tanks to murder what is lefty of the Palestinian population.
Bebe is one SICK person!!!!
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if they wanted to do that, they already would have done it.. and succeeded.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

This has not been proven.

Wow,

You just exposed yourself

 

[Locoponydirtman]

If Hamas is embedded in basements of buildings such as hospitals they are trapped. And can be surrounded and over run by ground troops rather easily. If they have literally hundreds of hostages, you risk killing those hostages in bombing those buildings to rubble. Maybe the hostages are in one or more of those installations and the state of Israel kills all of them with bombs.
This strategy makes no sense.

 

[ZNP]

Rubbish. I've seen footage of the missile and the moment the rocket flamed out. What has been proven is that much of the world is utterly hostile to Israel. What has not been proven is that Israel had anything to do with the explosion. What is your problem? Do you want to believe the worst?

I think what has been proven without any doubt is that the original story of the Hospital being blown up and 500 killed was a lie. As to Hamas being responsible I think we have overwhelming evidence, but agree that is not the same thing if someone wants to quibble.

 

[Moses_Young]

@Moses_Young :
"You don't know who the remnant are."

But Omniscient God certainly does. He is the Great Rememberer.
Maybe you think that He has lost His touch?

Absolutely not. I'm not the one saying we need to help God protect thieves and murderers by pretending they aren't war criminals because 70 or so years ago, these folk decided to call themselves Israelis. And certainly I don't mean all Israelis - as in most places, it is the government and their stooges who are likely the truly evil ones. If there is a remnant to be saved, God can save that remnant by Himself. What I dislike is Christians acting as apologists for war criminals and justifying an ideology reminiscent of Nazism, just in case the remnant comprise some of the villains (on some very tentative claims of prophecy fulfillment). God tells us to judge justly - not to give leniency to criminals He for some reason may favour at some future time. Did Nathan pretend King David wasn't an adulterer and a murderer? How much moreso should Christians condemn the evil behaviour of the Israeli government in murdering civilians?

By creating Al Quada, do you mean the CIA/USA armed them to fight/defend against communist Russia? Or is there something I'm missing? They don't really teach history anymore in public school so I could be missing something.

My understanding is that Al Quada was one of the many Mujahadeens (I forget what area of Afghanistan) that other Mujahadeens sort of championed and merged with. I do remember people linking Osama Bin Laden with the Bush family. Do you believe this to be true? If so, is that why/how they started/formed connections between the Bin Ladens and the Bushs'?

I think Osama was a CIA asset - Tim Osman. Al Qaeda was invented to scare America into wars it might otherwise not become involved in, and I believe ISIS was invented to keep the charade going when the Al Qaeda plot line became too boring (there may also be a more sophisticated reason).

Just as it profited the US government to organise terrorist bogeymen, I believe Hamas is similarly controlled by Israel. Probably not at every level, but toward the top where it counts.

 

[Moses_Young]

Many Jews know that the reason they are in Israel is because of God.

But you haven't responded to this post. You have admitted that it was God, not the Rothschilds who had the ultimate responsibility for the Jews returning to Israel and that the Rothschilds like every other Satanist is simply a pawn doing God's will.

But what about John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Do you believe this?

God is ultimately in control of all things, and yes, John 1:3 is correct (obviously). But God has a permissive and an active will. Just because He permits something does not mean it is in His active will. I don't see the formation of the state of Israel as a fulfillment of Ezekiel 37. Sure, it could be, but the passage could speak of the time of the end (bones becoming flesh), or any number of things. It would be much more worthy of God for him to do something that a bunch of spoiled, rich criminals could not - e.g. raising dead men to life. The Ezekiel passage doesn't necessarily speak out to me of the machinations of evil men creating 2 world wars so they could create a nation of criminals and name it after God's Old Testament people.

The prophecies are clear: Israel the nation is to be redeemed yet future.
For some reason supposed Christians hate this gracious intervention.

Much like the son who complained of the redemption of his brother.

It's not that it's hated necessarily. I don't hate the interpretation so much as I hate that Christians use it to negate the promises God has given Christians (and that it is used to cause division between Jew and Gentile, rather than unite us in Christ, in opposition to scripture), and that some Christians for some reason use the passage as justification for acting as apologists for criminals and evil men - men more evil than the Pharisees of Jesus time, though of the same spirit.

 

[shittim]

Leaning on ones own understanding never makes sense when the Creators tells us in His word to not.
Moses was told to wipe them all out lest the continually come back to cause evil, well, here we are. Perhaps they wi

Absolutely not. I'm not the one saying we need to help God protect thieves and murderers by pretending they aren't war criminals because 70 or so years ago, these folk decided to call themselves Israelis. And certainly I don't mean all Israelis - as in most places, it is the government and their stooges who are likely the truly evil ones. If there is a remnant to be saved, God can save that remnant by Himself. What I dislike is Christians acting as apologists for war criminals and justifying an ideology reminiscent of Nazism, just in case the remnant comprise some of the villains (on some very tentative claims of prophecy fulfillment). God tells us to judge justly - not to give leniency to criminals He for some reason may favour at some future time. Did Nathan pretend King David wasn't an adulterer and a murderer? How much moreso should Christians condemn the evil behaviour of the Israeli government in murdering civilians?

I think Osama was a CIA asset - Tim Osman. Al Qaeda was invented to scare America into wars it might otherwise not become involved in, and I believe ISIS was invented to keep the charade going when the Al Qaeda plot line became too boring (there may also be a more sophisticated reason).

Just as it profited the US government to organise terrorist bogeymen, I believe Hamas is similarly controlled by Israel. Probably not at every level, but toward the top where it counts.

you kinda give this away when you start with "I think".
We know, or are required to know, that we are to lean not on our own understanding.
This analysis removes entirely the spiritual reality of the war between good and evil that is coming to completion before our eyes in this time. If the cia and other agencies fomented any of these things, it was the creatures of darkness in those agencies and we all have the responsibility for not having maintained the gift and blessing He gave us of a Republic.
best wishes

 

[Ruby123]

why are they taking so long for their ground attack and why did they announce the date they will attack. It doesn't make sense.

 

[Moses_Young]

why are they taking so long for their ground attack and why did they announce the date they will attack. It doesn't make sense.

I heard there wasn't going to be a ground attack. Just terrible bombing, US will say "Naughty, naughty", and Israel will back off - not got the stomach for their own troops to go in. US and Israel can't win a war at present. WWIII event coming in 2024 with Trump. Not yet. It could be all wrong. But that's what I read and makes sense to me.

Probably a civil war coming up in Israel, as Netanyahu tries to arrest his countrymen that see him as a crook, and they fight back.

 

[Ruby123]

yes so the election cant go ahead they will try and start a war.

 

[ZNP]

why are they taking so long for their ground attack and why did they announce the date they will attack. It doesn't make sense.

Daniel 10:12 “Then he said to me, ‘Don’t be afraid, Daniel! For from the first day that you set your heart to understand and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard. I have come because of your words. 13 However, the prince of the kingdom of Persia resisted me for 21 days, but behold Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me because I had been detained there with the kings of Persia. 14 Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future days. For the vision concerns days yet to come.’

The cataclysmic event will hit the US.

 

[Moses_Young]

Daniel 10:12 “Then he said to me, ‘Don’t be afraid, Daniel! For from the first day that you set your heart to understand and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard. I have come because of your words. 13 However, the prince of the kingdom of Persia resisted me for 21 days, but behold Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me because I had been detained there with the kings of Persia. 14 Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future days. For the vision concerns days yet to come.’

The cataclysmic event will hit the US.

You mean the Iranian (or other) terrorists? Shipped in as illegal immigrants? Not many women, children, or old men, eh? All soldiers. :-|

I'm reading rumours they're funded by the UN (using UN credit cards for payments). Not sure if true, or a one-off, or crossed wires.

 

[ZNP]

You mean the Iranian (or other) terrorists? Shipped in as illegal immigrants? Not many women, children, or old men, eh? All soldiers. :-|

I'm reading rumours they're funded by the UN (using UN credit cards for payments). Not sure if true, or a one-off, or crossed wires.

Cataclysm includes two meanings, a violent natural disaster and a violent world event. Both are about to happen to the US. Time to pray.

 

[Moses_Young]

Cataclysm includes two meanings, a violent natural disaster and a violent world event. Both are about to happen to the US. Time to pray.

What is the natural disaster? Yellowstone?

 

[ZNP]

What is the natural disaster? Yellowstone?

I have posted tens maybe even a hundred posts on my blog of the various prophecies. I will not go over all of them.

However, my understanding based on my study of the Bible is that this will be the opening of the sixth seal. When this happens the worldly system in the US will collapse just as the temple to Baal collapsed when Samson pushed out the pillars.

My understanding is that the flood comes like the days of Noah and fire falls from heaven like the days of Lot. If you are living in Sodom and Gomorrah, time to pack your bags and leave. If you are unsure, time to get on your knees and pray.

 

[Moses_Young]

I have posted tens maybe even a hundred posts on my blog of the various prophecies. I will not go over all of them.

However, my understanding based on my study of the Bible is that this will be the opening of the sixth seal. When this happens the worldly system in the US will collapse just as the temple to Baal collapsed when Samson pushed out the pillars.

My understanding is that the flood comes like the days of Noah and fire falls from heaven like the days of Lot. If you are living in Sodom and Gomorrah, time to pack your bags and leave. If you are unsure, time to get on your knees and pray.

Oh, okay. I'm not dogmatic on end times stuff. Prophecy is so hard to unravel until it's already unraveled, and even then, it's hard to know for sure. My preferred belief is that the rapture will happen before the seals are opened. But then that is probably inconsistent with some other things.

 

[ZNP]

John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

The Lord heard the prayer of many "doubting Thomases". They said unless they see these things and handle them they will not believe, so the Lord is going to answer your prayer.

 

[ZNP]

Oh, okay. I'm not dogmatic on end times stuff. Prophecy is so hard to unravel until it's already unraveled, and even then, it's hard to know for sure. My preferred belief is that the rapture will happen before the seals are opened. But then that is probably inconsistent with some other things.

I agree, I have been studying this intensely for the last two years and came to this conclusion, despite knowing it is not consistent with every eschatological study I have seen.

My understanding now, contrary to everyone else, is that the Feast of Trumpets was fulfilled in 2020-2021 (the longest day). We are in Jacob's trouble. The seven seals were opened right after the Lord rose from the dead. That is why the apostles could tell us all the things sealed up in that document. Those who are seated with Christ in the heavenlies have seen these things. Those who only see according to the soul and flesh will see them during the seven years.

This understanding is consistent with what Paul shared in Ephesians, what John shared in Revelation, and what Jesus said in Matthew 28.

 

[cv5]

God is ultimately in control of all things.

Disagree. God CREATED all things and is SOVERIGN over all things, yes.

But God DEFINITELY imbues His creation with free will. He allows choice and if the choice is to sin against Him, this He forebears.
Until the time of judgement.

Satan had perfect free will to sin and rebel. Same goes for Adam.

In fact the ongoing false accusation from Satan is that God Himself is the source of evil.
Satan also thinks that God has no answer to the forgiveness of sin.

He is dead wrong on both counts of course.

Thank God for His gift of forgiveness and acquittal by and though His Son.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

This has not been proven.

Yes it has, even Biden had to admit it.