Israel Declares War
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Educate yourself as to why we are at this point. Take special note that time and again the Arabs and Muslims refused to allow any Jewish state, regardless of its size.
Note that a two state solution was offered before WWII, with Jews having a mere 20% of what is today currently Israel. The beast Muslims refused.
Note that a two state solution was offered before WWII, with Jews having a mere 20% of what is today currently Israel. The beast Muslims refused.
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I think if you read back, you'll find this was what actually was originally implied (i.e. I'm against conscription for myself, but expect daddy-govt to conscript others as military slaves to protect me? Lol. Would be somewhat hypocritical, no?) I have no time to go back through the posts to prove it for you, though.
I also think you are pushing a false narrative, because I highly doubt a government that tried to murder me or make me sick by threatening my job and my right to life, liberty and happiness with an untested vaccine is going to care enough to protect me from some sort of invaders. Where's the profit for them in that? So whether they're enslaving people to fight another enemy of their creating or no is not really business of mine - I'm more than happy to stay out of it and let the conflicting governments fight between themselves.
I would sooner die fighting a tyrannical government which tried to enslave me (or others), than die fighting to protect such a government against an invading enemy. That's not to say I wouldn't defend myself or others against an invader, but nobody likes to be forced.
I also think you are pushing a false narrative, because I highly doubt a government that tried to murder me or make me sick by threatening my job and my right to life, liberty and happiness with an untested vaccine is going to care enough to protect me from some sort of invaders. Where's the profit for them in that? So whether they're enslaving people to fight another enemy of their creating or no is not really business of mine - I'm more than happy to stay out of it and let the conflicting governments fight between themselves.
I would sooner die fighting a tyrannical government which tried to enslave me (or others), than die fighting to protect such a government against an invading enemy. That's not to say I wouldn't defend myself or others against an invader, but nobody likes to be forced.
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I don't like crossing your posts (much respect for you on many topics - but disagree on this one), but felt I should with this post. When has conscription or slavery ever been needed? I expect it's the same as when rape has ever been needed.
"Ooooh, our birth rates are too low for the country to survive, what shall we do?"
"Hey, let's just rape more women and force them to have children and our population growth will improve."
Sound like a realistic solution? So if sexual slavery is not a solution to potential survival issues, why should military slavery be?
If our fate is to die with honour, or to survive by becoming the monsters we purport to be at war against, my choice is to die with honour. Slavery in all its forms - whether military, sexual or other - is evil, and should never be justified by "we need it for survival".
"Ooooh, our birth rates are too low for the country to survive, what shall we do?"
"Hey, let's just rape more women and force them to have children and our population growth will improve."
Sound like a realistic solution? So if sexual slavery is not a solution to potential survival issues, why should military slavery be?
If our fate is to die with honour, or to survive by becoming the monsters we purport to be at war against, my choice is to die with honour. Slavery in all its forms - whether military, sexual or other - is evil, and should never be justified by "we need it for survival".
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I think it came up because someone was claiming that a soldier's life is just as valuable as a child's, so there was moral equivalence in the taking of either. I made the point that a soldier, when he (or maybe she, in Israel's case) signs up, consents to the risks of warfare, which may include death. A child does not. So while taking any human life is a terrible thing, in warfare, at least a soldier has consented to the potential risks.
The point then was made that to add to its many other crimes against humanity, the Israeli government routinely enslaves people to serve in its military, so perhaps the consent of the soldiers isn't there afterall (perhaps otherwise, most of the Israeli population would deem the Israeli government not worth saving?) My rebuttal to this was that perhaps then the Israeli military should not be referred to as a military, but perhaps a slave-army or something to indicate the people comprising it may be victims just as much as soldiers. I think for simplicity of the discussion, the decision was then made to presume that soldiers in the Israeli army were consenting.
One or two of the Rothschild-State-of-Israel-can-do-no-wrong-even-if-indiscriminately-bombing-civilians warmongers then tried to take the tone that I was a coward or hypocrite or similar, because I would not be prepared to enslaved and murder, be maimed, tortured or die (i.e. be conscripted) for corrupt and wealthy politicians to become even wealthier through more corruption.
The point then was made that to add to its many other crimes against humanity, the Israeli government routinely enslaves people to serve in its military, so perhaps the consent of the soldiers isn't there afterall (perhaps otherwise, most of the Israeli population would deem the Israeli government not worth saving?) My rebuttal to this was that perhaps then the Israeli military should not be referred to as a military, but perhaps a slave-army or something to indicate the people comprising it may be victims just as much as soldiers. I think for simplicity of the discussion, the decision was then made to presume that soldiers in the Israeli army were consenting.
One or two of the Rothschild-State-of-Israel-can-do-no-wrong-even-if-indiscriminately-bombing-civilians warmongers then tried to take the tone that I was a coward or hypocrite or similar, because I would not be prepared to enslaved and murder, be maimed, tortured or die (i.e. be conscripted) for corrupt and wealthy politicians to become even wealthier through more corruption.
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You continue to spout nonsense against Israel. Have you been bought off by the Islamists, since you seem to love them over Israel?
The ones who really committed crimes against humanity were all the governments who insisted on people taking the bogus COVID vaccines, since those were bioweapons. At they same time they sabotaged and suppressed the treatments which could have saved millions of lives. Who is holding these people accountable? They would have been hanged in the Nazi era.
The ones who really committed crimes against humanity were all the governments who insisted on people taking the bogus COVID vaccines, since those were bioweapons. At they same time they sabotaged and suppressed the treatments which could have saved millions of lives. Who is holding these people accountable? They would have been hanged in the Nazi era.
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Lol. Have I said something untrue? Isn't this thread topic "Israel declares war"? I don't think there's any doubt the Islamist culture is wrong, but no Christians seem to be claiming these are God's chosen people. However, some do seem to think that various passages in the bible justify the State of Israel's war crimes, simply because they call themselves "Israel", or (questionably) link their genetic lineage to Judah. Only the blood of Jesus can atone for sin - not one's state or lineage.
Note also that the crimes against humanity of slavery and forced vaccination stem from the same false belief - that the government owns the bodies (or souls) of its people. It does not.
Are you aware that Netanyahu's government, the government you seem to object to me criticising, was one of the worst offenders with regards to its forced "vaccination" policies? I agree that hanging is a suitable punishment for this war crime (as for many other war crimes discussed in the thread), but am sometimes puzzled by Christians wanting to justify war crimes committed by the State of Israel.
Note also that the crimes against humanity of slavery and forced vaccination stem from the same false belief - that the government owns the bodies (or souls) of its people. It does not.
Are you aware that Netanyahu's government, the government you seem to object to me criticising, was one of the worst offenders with regards to its forced "vaccination" policies? I agree that hanging is a suitable punishment for this war crime (as for many other war crimes discussed in the thread), but am sometimes puzzled by Christians wanting to justify war crimes committed by the State of Israel.
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I read there was a 20% chance of Biden implementing conscription. I kind of hope he does. It would surely wake everyone else up that can be woken.
Obviously, I don't support slavery/conscription, but if Biden does implement it, perhaps it can be defeated and ended once and for all? Although, they said this for genocide and medical tyranny at the end of WWII, and it took less than 80 years...
Obviously, I don't support slavery/conscription, but if Biden does implement it, perhaps it can be defeated and ended once and for all? Although, they said this for genocide and medical tyranny at the end of WWII, and it took less than 80 years...
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