THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION

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zone

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Zone, I ... don't exactly understand what you're trying to tell me. I mean, I know you're trying to tell me something, but I'm not sure what. Are you holding these groups up as serious ideas, or showing how ridiculous they are?

Remember, I'm senile.
you mean here on earth now running the show?
or eternally?

nobody's that senile SD.
best to not try that with moi. doesn't verk.
 
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The American Spectator : Saul Alinsky Takes the White House

Rules for Radicals
By Saul Alinsky - 1971

Saul Alinsky’s son: “Obama learned his lesson well”

Judi McLeod Tuesday, September 2, 2008

In Artful Dodger style, Barack Obama, plays down his mentorship with Communist author Saul Alinsky. But Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, credits Obama for “learning his lesson well” from the Communist guru.

Obama followed the same path.

It is a fact that activist-cum senator Barack Hussein Obama started off his career as an activist with a position as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious conference (CCRC) in Chicago. Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned, in Alinsky’s own words, how to “rub raw the sores of discontent”.

Meanwhile L. David Alinsky, perhaps unwittingly put Obama into the proper perspective by stating without reservation: “Obama learned his lesson well.”
Saul Alinsky’s son: “Obama learned his lesson well”

But Zone, do you think Alinsky is / was a part of the B'nai B'rith or other high levels of the
Masonic Guild or was he just reacting to society and the bait laid before him set by the
"Learned Elders"?


Zone, do you think this is all "Conspiracy Theory" Mumbo-jumbo, or do you think that
there is an "Intelligent Design" to this?




Hillary, Obama And The Cult Of Alinsky
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By Richard Poe[/SIZE]

In his native Chicago, Alinsky courted power wherever he found it. His alliance with
prominent Catholic clerics, such as Bishop Bernard Sheil, gave him respectability. His
friendship with crime bosses such as Frank Nitti - Al Capone's second-in-command - gave
Alinsky clout on the street.

He excelled at wooing wealthy funders. Start-up money for his Industrial Areas
Foundation - a training school for radical organizers - came from department-store mogul
Marshall Field III, Sears Roebuck heiress Adele Rosenwald Levy, and Gardiner Howland
Shaw, an assistant secretary of state for Franklin Roosevelt.


Alinsky once boasted, "I feel confident that I could persuade a millionaire on a Friday to
subsidize a revolution for Saturday out of which he would make a huge profit on Sunday
even though he was certain to be executed on Monday."


Alinsky's crowning achievement was his recruitment of a young high school student
named Hillary Rodham.
She met Alinsky through a radical church group. Hillary wrote an
analysis of Alinsky's methods for her senior thesis at Wellesley College. They remained
friends until Alinsky's death in 1972.

Alinsky tried to hire Hillary as a community organizer, but she chose instead to attend
Yale Law School. Nonetheless, Alinsky's network continued guiding Hillary's career.

Fresh out of law school at age 26, Hillary received a prestigious appointment to the House
Judiciary Committee's Watergate investigative team in 1974. She got the job on the
recommendation of Peter and Marian Wright Edelman.

The Edelmans have been trusted mentors of Hillary since 1969. New Republic editor
Martin Peretz called Marian " Hillary's closest sister and ideological soulmate". Marian
Wright Edelman also happens to be an Alinskyite, having served on the Board of Trustees
of Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation.

Many leftists view Hillary as a sell-out because she claims to hold moderate views on
some issues. However, Hillary is simply following Alinsky's counsel to do and say whatever
it takes to gain power.


Barack Obama is also an Alinskyite. Trained by Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation,
Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a
four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group
called the Developing Communities Project. Later, he worked with ACORN and its offshoot
Project Vote , both creations of the Alinsky network.

Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black
churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an
instant churchgoer .

That Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share an Alinskyite background tells us two things.
First, they are leftists, dedicated to overthrowing our Constitutional system. Second, they
will go to any length to conceal their radicalism from the public.

That is the Alinsky method. And that is today's Democratic Party.


Link -->> Hillary, Obama And The Cult Of Alinsky
 
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systemdown101

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you mean here on earth now running the show?
or eternally?

nobody's that senile SD.
best to not try that with moi. doesn't verk.
Nobody is that senile? Well, you don't know me that well yet ;)

I know who's running the show from an eternal standpoint. That isn't an issue.

My question to you was, I wasn't exactly sure what you were trying to say immediately after I referred to the whole thing as being as ephemeral as the Illuminati because you posted the articles without comment. Please elaborate.
 

zone

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Nobody is that senile? Well, you don't know me that well yet ;)

I know who's running the show from an eternal standpoint. That isn't an issue.

My question to you was, I wasn't exactly sure what you were trying to say immediately after I referred to the whole thing as being as ephemeral as the Illuminati because you posted the articles without comment. Please elaborate.
ummmm......nah.
i think if one wanted to make connections the answers are all there.
if one doesn't, a million posts won't change it.
love zone.

oh....one thing though: who did 9-11?
 
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systemdown101

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ummmm......nah.
i think if one wanted to make connections the answers are all there.
if one doesn't, a million posts won't change it.
love zone.

oh....one thing though: who did 9-11?
I would prefer to know what you meant rather than make an assumption about it, but it's not worth arguing over.

Al-Quada and Osama bin Laden. They'd tried to destroy the WTC years before, and had been planning to take it down, as they saw it as a symbol of everything they hated about the US, among many other reasons.


This isn't some kind of trick question, is it?
 
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THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION
- A one page summary

The document consists of twenty-four "protocols", which have been analyzed by Steven
Jacobs and Mark Weitzman, and they documented several recurrent themes that appear
repeatedly in the 24 protocols, as shown below and in the following table:

Goyim are mentally inferior to Jews and can't run their nations properly. For their sake
and ours, we need to abolish their governments and replace them with a single
government. This will take a long time and involve much bloodshed, but it's for a good
cause. Here's what we'll need to do:


THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION
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* Place our agents and helpers everywhere
* Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans
* Start fights between different races, classes and religions
* Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way
* Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials
* Appeal to successful people's egos
* Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
* Replace royal rule with socialist rule, then communism, then despotism
* Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us
* Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary
* Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism
* Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect
* Rewrite history to our benefit
* Create entertaining distractions
* Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
* Encourage people to spy on one another
* Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor
* Take possession of all wealth, property and (especially) gold
* Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc.
* Introduce a progressive tax on wealth
* Replace sound investment with speculation
* Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments
* Give bad advice to governments and everyone else

Eventually the Goyim will be so angry with their governments (because
we'll blame them for the resulting mess) that they'll gladly have us take
over. We will then appoint a descendant of David to be king of the
world, and the remaining Goyim will bow down and sing his praises.
Everyone will live in peace and obedient order under his glorious rule.


Link -->>
Protocols of Zion in Modern English
THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION (complete protocols & summary)

Link -->> http://truthordenial.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/the-protocols-of-zion.doc
Downloadable small text file-Protocols

Link -->> The Protocols Of Zion
While some people think that these protocols are coming from Jews,I do not believe it,nor do the Jews have the ability to do it.

I believe that these protocols are coming from England,who have been trying for years to gain control of the world,and are trying to do it for secular humanism,which is the move made during the renaissance period,which they know they cannot control it as a singular nation,and not as the United Kingdom,but they can get their ways out there,influencing America,and effecting all European nations,and the Vatican,which when they set up America,they probably started affecting the European nations,and the Vatican,so they would all come together as one in the future.

I will not say this is truth,but theory that could be true,but either way they affected America.
It could be England set up America and made it look as if they broke away and were different,so that America could be the nation to get their ways out in the world,for nobody will follow England with their aggressive ways in the past,so use America,secretly controlled by England,to get their ways out there.

England believes that the throne of David moved to England giving them the right by God to rule the world,and that they are the descendants of David,thinking they are the true Jews,and the way America operates,which was started by people who were from England,it seems like the protocols are coming from England who believe they are the true Jews,at least at the leadership levels,for I do not know how much the common people accept that.

I believe the protocols stem from England,and not from Jews from Israel or anywhere else,that are actually olive skinned Jews.
 
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While some people think that these protocols are coming from Jews,I do not believe it,nor do the Jews have the ability to do it.

I believe that these protocols are coming from England,who have been trying for years to gain control of the world,and are trying to do it for secular humanism,which is the move made during the renaissance period,which they know they cannot control it as a singular nation,and not as the United Kingdom,but they can get their ways out there,influencing America,and effecting all European nations,and the Vatican,which when they set up America,they probably started affecting the European nations,and the Vatican,so they would all come together as one in the future.

I will not say this is truth,but theory that could be true,but either way they affected America.
It could be England set up America and made it look as if they broke away and were different,so that America could be the nation to get their ways out in the world,for nobody will follow England with their aggressive ways in the past,so use America,secretly controlled by England,to get their ways out there.

England believes that the throne of David moved to England giving them the right by God to rule the world,and that they are the descendants of David,thinking they are the true Jews,and the way America operates,which was started by people who were from England,it seems like the protocols are coming from England who believe they are the true Jews,at least at the leadership levels,for I do not know how much the common people accept that.

I believe the protocols stem from England,and not from Jews from Israel or anywhere else,that are actually olive skinned Jews.

It is indeed all a part!

BRITISH ISRAELISM, SCOTTISH RITE (and other orders of) FREEMASONRY, House of
"LORDS", The Bank of England, The Rothschild's, The B'nai B'rith are certainly all a PART of
this system. It is a Queen System of Hellenism also in part. Then all these world
influences, religions, governments and institutions inter-play in the system controlled by
the Money Changers that all go Way, Way back to Jesus's time and the Sanhedrin.

The interconnectedness of these systems is what leads so many astray. One needs to
step back to get real PERSPECTIVE and sort of map out the entire schema. Even without
being "Conspiracy" in some senses, the setup of the ENVIRONMENT and the promotion by
Media and other propagandists to participate is how the machine works. The way out? --
Don't play the game, and tell others the same ...
 

zone

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Al-Quada and Osama bin Laden. They'd tried to destroy the WTC years before, and had been planning to take it down, as they saw it as a symbol of everything they hated about the US, among many other reasons.
r-i-i-i-i-ght.
buncha guys with box-cutters hates america for her freedoms....so they pull off 9-11.
uh. mkay.

lucky break though...they had that PATRIOT ACT all ready to go so you could be scanned and groped and have your papers checked, and torture would be cool.

cuz a couple arabs with ex-acto knives managed the impossible.

ya. sure.






BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE

BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE - YouTube






let's seeeee...




people buy into the great lie of the Reichstag False Flag event, which enables Hitler to create new 'fatherland security' laws through The Enabling Act.





people buy into the great lie of the 9-11 False Flag event, which enables Bush to create new 'homeland security' laws through The Patriot Act.

i wonder which is more believable?
i guess we'll find out soon enough.

 
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zone

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While some people think that these protocols are coming from Jews,I do not believe it,nor do the Jews have the ability to do it.

I believe that these protocols are coming from England,who have been trying for years to gain control of the world,and are trying to do it for secular humanism,which is the move made during the renaissance period,which they know they cannot control it as a singular nation,and not as the United Kingdom,but they can get their ways out there,influencing America,and effecting all European nations,and the Vatican,which when they set up America,they probably started affecting the European nations,and the Vatican,so they would all come together as one in the future.

I will not say this is truth,but theory that could be true,but either way they affected America.
It could be England set up America and made it look as if they broke away and were different,so that America could be the nation to get their ways out in the world,for nobody will follow England with their aggressive ways in the past,so use America,secretly controlled by England,to get their ways out there.

England believes that the throne of David moved to England giving them the right by God to rule the world,and that they are the descendants of David,thinking they are the true Jews,and the way America operates,which was started by people who were from England,it seems like the protocols are coming from England who believe they are the true Jews,at least at the leadership levels,for I do not know how much the common people accept that.

I believe the protocols stem from England,and not from Jews from Israel or anywhere else,that are actually olive skinned Jews.
why bother with the PROTOCOLS?
just read the TALMUD.
 

dscherck

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ummmm......nah.
i think if one wanted to make connections the answers are all there.
if one doesn't, a million posts won't change it.
love zone.

oh....one thing though: who did 9-11?
A bunch of ticked off muslims based out of Pakistan/Afghanistan.
 

dscherck

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r-i-i-i-i-ght.
buncha guys with box-cutters hates america for her freedoms....so they pull off 9-11.
uh. mkay.

lucky break though...they had that PATRIOT ACT all ready to go so you could be scanned and groped and have your papers checked, and torture would be cool.

cuz a couple arabs with ex-acto knives managed the impossible.

ya. sure.






BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE

BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE - YouTube






let's seeeee...




people buy into the great lie of the Reichstag False Flag event, which enables Hitler to create new 'fatherland security' laws through The Enabling Act.





people buy into the great lie of the 9-11 False Flag event, which enables Bush to create new 'homeland security' laws through The Patriot Act.

i wonder which is more believable?
i guess we'll find out soon enough.

Oh please Zone, you're not so silly as to believe things like 9-11 being an inside job? The very fact that some idiot out there is still alive who is floating this theory proves it to be false. Seriously, the same .Gov who is willing to murder thousands of people, is not going to waste what would be a piddling amount of money to wipe out these guys?

9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Pentagon - Flight 93 - Popular Mechanics
World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest - Popular Mechanics
6 Debunked 9/11 Conspiracy Claims From NIST's New WTC 7 Report - Popular Mechanics

Loose Change 2nd Edition Viewer Guide

The so called "documentary" Loose Change itself has been debunked numerous times by eye witnesses, and pure science. 9-11 was carried out by a group of extremist Muslim jihadists who took advantage of numerous security holes and managed to score a critical hit. While it may seem improbable, the idea that it was done by the US government in secret (which would have involved literally thousands of people) is even more ridiculous. Heck, we have some of the guys who planned in custody, and on record as admitting to doing it!
 
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Oh please Zone, you're not so silly as to believe things like 9-11 being an inside job? The very fact that some idiot out there is still alive who is floating this theory proves it to be false. Seriously, the same .Gov who is willing to murder thousands of people, is not going to waste what would be a piddling amount of money to wipe out these guys?

The so called "documentary" Loose Change itself has been debunked numerous times by eye witnesses, and pure science. 9-11 was carried out by a group of extremist Muslim jihadists who took advantage of numerous security holes and managed to score a critical hit. While it may seem improbable, the idea that it was done by the US government in secret (which would have involved literally thousands of people) is even more ridiculous. Heck, we have some of the guys who planned in custody, and on record as admitting to doing it!

Zone, as much as I love you, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. The very nature of a massive government conspiracy encompasing all of what you say would collapse upon itself. I agree with dscherk here. This was simply the Pearl Harbor attack done on a somewhat different scale.

Now, I am willing to admit that there are a number of groups out there motivated entirely by pure self-interest who probably do spin plans to control at least a part of the world, but the idea that all these groups could form an interlocking conspiracy that's managed to keep itself relatively secret while it achieves world domination is not really possible. It would fall apart just because of the sheer size needed to pull it off; the smaller groups would ultimately be at odds with each other and either rat each other out or simply collapse into civil war, or disintegrate. What made the 9-11 attacks work was the fact that it was a relatively small-time, under-the-radar operation. Sure it was planned years in advance, it had to be. But I think Occam's Razor explains this better than a far-reaching Zionist Plot.

And the Patriot Act was nothing more than a governmental knee-jerk reaction fueled by a populace screaming for action. There's no conspiracy, just your usual government incompetence in action.
 
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I am Catholic. Masons don't really care for us much. That said, you don't have to be a Mason to believe this is a fake. It has been proven as such numerous times. It is a complete fake and used only to spread vile slander against the Jews. Indeed, it is frequently quoted by Adolf Hitler and was used to justify some of the evil perpeuated against the Jewish people.

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Greetings,

You say because your Catholic that Masons don't really care for you that much? Brother if you do your due diligence you would quickly realise that members of the Prieure de Sion, Illuminated Masons, and the "Black" Nobility have all been high ranking members within that institution. Now I will say that the Catholic Church used to be a bulwark against Masonry and Illuminism but it has not been exempt from their penetration. Not just the Catholics however, but Southern Baptists as well. Furthermore, under the cover of being zealous Catholics, the house of Guise and Lorraine helped spread esoteric knowledge of the occult. Catholic institutions have been large recepients of grants from foundations connected to the World Order (some Masons) also.

I think you might need to wake up brother. The Catholic Church was backing Hitler during WW2. The Catholic Church hoped the Nazis would wipe out a Secret Order that believed they were the blood lineage of Jesus Christ. This lineage was called the Holy Grail. Its secret elimination would destroy a potent rival to the Catholic Church. You can even research the swastika, the Swastika was at the Catholic abbey school Adolf Hitler attended at Lambach. It was the heraldic sign of the abbey's administrator Father Hagen. The Catholic religion has a love/hate relationship with the occult but is to the point where it is so infested with freemasonry that it cannot separate itself from it. It promotes this guise of abhorance for Masonry but by their works condone it. This information that I speak is not available to the average layman but only known among the upper echelons of Catholicism.
 
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framester

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THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION is NONSENSE and LIES that when told so many times it becomes TRUTH and becomes dangerous when left alone. It may be silly, but wait when it becomes dangerous and the whole world suffers. I'm just wondering if there would be variatons of this dangerous nonsense at present and in the future.

LIKE when the world is run by a dictator and then we would have the :
THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF EARTH, to use Earth as the Planet to rule the Solar System,
so on and so forth. :p
 

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This topic can also be used to check the potency of dangerous nonsense. To test the waters, if found out that such nonsense is OK,
then proceed, but watch out, Times have changed, people are not so stupid as they used to be.

:D
lol
 

dscherck

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Greetings,

You say because your Catholic that Masons don't really care for you that much? Brother if you do your due diligence you would quickly realise that members of the Prieure de Sion, Illuminated Masons, and the "Black" Nobility have all been high ranking members within that institution. Now I will say that the Catholic Church used to be a bulwark against Masonry and Illuminism but it has not been exempt from their penetration. Not just the Catholics however, but Southern Baptists as well. Furthermore, under the cover of being zealous Catholics, the house of Guise and Lorraine helped spread esoteric knowledge of the occult. Catholic institutions have been large recepients of grants from foundations connected to the World Order (some Masons) also.

I think you might need to wake up brother. The Catholic Church was backing Hitler during WW2. The Catholic Church hoped the Nazis would wipe out a Secret Order that believed they were the blood lineage of Jesus Christ. This lineage was called the Holy Grail. Its secret elimination would destroy a potent rival to the Catholic Church. You can even research the swastika, the Swastika was at the Catholic abbey school Adolf Hitler attended at Lambach. It was the heraldic sign of the abbey's administrator Father Hagen. The Catholic religion has a love/hate relationship with the occult but is to the point where it is so infested with freemasonry that it cannot separate itself from it. It promotes this guise of abhorance for Masonry but by their works condone it. This information that I speak is not available to the average layman but only known among the upper echelons of Catholicism.


WOW! You really know very little about WW2 history and the Catholic Church. Have you actually read ANYTHING by Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (Later Pope Pius XII) during the years leading up to WW2 and during WW2 itself? The Nazis HATED the Catholic Church. Utterly despised them. In fact, the cheif Rabbi of Rome later converted to Christianity because of the immense bravery the Pope and the Catholic Church showed in facing the Nazis. Many prominent Jewish historians estimate that approximately 700,000 Jews were directly saved because of the efforts of the Catholic Church. The idea that the Catholic Church backed Hitler is laughable. Seriously, go to any credible historian, or heck, go to your local library and read up on what the media at the time wrote about the Catholic Church's stance towards Hitler's Nazi regime. Read what the chief rabbi of Jerusalem wrote about the efforts of the Catholic Church, read Pope Pius XI's encyclical and tell me that's written by a guy supporting the Nazis.

How can you honestly expect me to believe something that's so easily disproven? And while the Germans didn't like Pius XI, they despised and are on record as wanting Cardinal Pacelli to not be the next pope. The very day after being elected pope, a prominent Berlin newspaper , the Berlin Morgenpost said: ‘The election of cardinal Pacelli is not accepted with favor in Germany because he was always opposed to Nazism and practically determined the policies of the Vatican under his predecessor.’
 

zone

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A bunch of ticked off muslims based out of Pakistan/Afghanistan.
rubbish.
if it were true, and it isn't, america has the stupidest, laziest and most ineffectual intelligence services in the world; their military is run by gomer pyle; and they don't really care about some silly old constitution anyways.
(now that i think about it, one of those things is true).
 

zone

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9-11 was carried out by a group of extremist Muslim jihadists who took advantage of numerous security holes and managed to score a critical hit. While it may seem improbable, the idea that it was done by the US government in secret (which would have involved literally thousands of people) is even more ridiculous. Heck, we have some of the guys who planned in custody, and on record as admitting to doing it!
i'm quite disappointed DS.
i've always known you to be an intelligent well informed man.

1) how convenient the goofy "muslims" "scored THREE critical hits" while amerika was asleep at the wheel.

2) astonishing that the US (NORAD) was performing a drill that involved the exact scenario at the exact time and decided, 'hey boys, looks like a handful of illiterate muslims from across the world is doing what our drill is, heck.... let's go live and try to maybe stop this thing"

o-o-o-o-kay. just like the drills taking place right when the London 7/7 bombings took place (Brits didnt want to be part of the COALITION OF THE STUPID...needed convincing.)

who hates ARABS that much to pull FFs to get US and half the west to go slaughter MILLIONS OF THEM?


NORAD had drills of jets as weapons
By Steven Komarow and Tom Squitieri, USA TODAY
Posted 4/18/2004 10:22 PM Updated 4/19/2004 3:08 PM

WASHINGTON — In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.
One of the imagined targets was the World Trade Center. In another exercise, jets performed a mock shootdown over the Atlantic Ocean of a jet supposedly laden with chemical poisons headed toward a target in the United States. In a third scenario, the target was the Pentagon — but that drill was not run after Defense officials said it was unrealistic, NORAD and Defense officials say.

3) some of the guys in custody admitted to doing it? we now know most of the accused are stilla live and living with their families just like they were before CIA and Mossad stole their identitites and pinned that unspeakable false flag war crime on them.

BTW: you'd admit to anything if they tortured you.
which the Patriot Act approved. and which you amerikans gave your approval too: resounding cheers heard loudly. and felt by innocent people in torture chambers around the world today.

"Do whatever it takes to stop another terrorist attack on U.S. soil.": didn't jimmydiggs have a thread going on this a couple days back?

Public Backs Torture, Patriot Act

By Paul Bedard
Posted: May 25, 2011


On the eve of the expiration of the controversial Patriot Act drafted to expand Washington's ability to sniff out terrorists, the public is telling lawmakers that it not only backs the act but also thinks torture is OK on terrorists too.
While the House and Senate are expected to approve extending the Patriot Act, which expires Friday, getting a strong public endorsement is a bonus, according to Senate GOP leadership aides. What's more the public's message in a new Suffolk University poll is a blunt one: Do whatever it takes to stop another terrorist attack on U.S. soil.
Public Backs Torture, Patriot Act - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)



OH YES!
THE LAND OF THE FREE! AND THE HOME OF THE OH SO BRAVE.





WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU (and they will), YOU GOT NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOU.

LIFE IS LIKE A BOX 'O CHOKLITS: YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET.

~



and america's ignorance and brutality is so overwhelming, that's all i got to say about that.
 

zone

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THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION is NONSENSE and LIES that when told so many times it becomes TRUTH and becomes dangerous when left alone. It may be silly, but wait when it becomes dangerous and the whole world suffers. I'm just wondering if there would be variatons of this dangerous nonsense at present and in the future.

LIKE when the world is run by a dictator and then we would have the :
THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF EARTH, to use Earth as the Planet to rule the Solar System,
so on and so forth. :p
some folks claim to believe in "end-times", and an evil "Antichrist".
but when it comes right down to it:........ THEY DON'T.
 

zone

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Zone, as much as I love you, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. The very nature of a massive government conspiracy encompasing all of what you say would collapse upon itself. I agree with dscherk here. This was simply the Pearl Harbor attack done on a somewhat different scale.

Now, I am willing to admit that there are a number of groups out there motivated entirely by pure self-interest who probably do spin plans to control at least a part of the world, but the idea that all these groups could form an interlocking conspiracy that's managed to keep itself relatively secret while it achieves world domination is not really possible. It would fall apart just because of the sheer size needed to pull it off; the smaller groups would ultimately be at odds with each other and either rat each other out or simply collapse into civil war, or disintegrate. What made the 9-11 attacks work was the fact that it was a relatively small-time, under-the-radar operation. Sure it was planned years in advance, it had to be. But I think Occam's Razor explains this better than a far-reaching Zionist Plot.

And the Patriot Act was nothing more than a governmental knee-jerk reaction fueled by a populace screaming for action. There's no conspiracy, just your usual government incompetence in action.
Romans 1:18
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth

2 Thessalonians 2
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

Revelation 20
The Thousand Years
1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pita and a great chain. 2And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, 3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.

7And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, 10and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.