Who is the 'ONE' who sits on the throne?

[Researcher]

Not "could be" but "is in fact".

Great. We both agree that the Throne Room is the Third Heaven, which means there are at least two other Heavens to consider when interpreting Revelation and the rest of the Bible.

TOTALLY FALSE. "Abraham's Bosom" existed in Sheol/Hades until the resurrection. There is no "Abraham's Bosom" now.

No.

There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that teaches what you just wrote.

You keep using the term "Throne Room" for Heaven. You will not find that term in the Bible for the simple reason that God's Heaven is definitely not a room. It is a vast space in which countless angels reside (among others). And His throne is there.

'Throne Room' is a common description that most Christians understand...



Revelation 4 NKJV - The Throne Room of Heaven - After these - Bible Gateway

God's Throne is also a chariot that moves.

BTW...

I noticed you ignored the verses about how the Saved are resting there, as in sleeping until certain events occur.

And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. (Rev 4:6) We do not even know the extent of this sea of glass, or what kind of glass there is in Heaven.

Did you know that the Throne Room is a picture of a bosom? As in Abraham's Bosom?

• Throne = Heart
• Slain Lamb = Blood of the Heart
• Twenty-Four Elder = Ribs
• Seven Spirits = Breath/Lungs
• Four Beasts = Four Chambers
• Sea of Glass = Pericardial Fluid
• Etc.

You should research this topic. It will help you understand the symbolism much better.

@34:10 in the video is where Pastor Mike explains...

 

[ewq1938]

• Seven Spirits = Breath/Lungs

Yes, this matches the 7 lungs we have.

 

[glen55]

Animals teach by life isn't in need of books before exsperince then MAN can write copy how life of animals happens in weathers, sun shine, dark nights, temperature ect..............better by exsperince than reading realities have mystified can cause slower race.

 

[Researcher]

Yes, this matches the 7 lungs we have.

Job 27:3
"All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils"

 

[Nehemiah6]

Did you know that the Throne Room is a picture of a bosom? As in Abraham's Bosom?

Fantasize all you want. But there is no "Throne Room". We should simply stick to what is actually revealed,

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Great. We both agree that the Throne Room is the Third Heaven, which means there are at least two other Heavens to consider when interpreting Revelation and the rest of the Bible.




No.

There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that teaches what you just wrote.




'Throne Room' is a common description that most Christians understand...

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Revelation 4 NKJV - The Throne Room of Heaven - After these - Bible Gateway

God's Throne is also a chariot that moves.

BTW...

I noticed you ignored the verses about how the Saved are resting there, as in sleeping until certain events occur.




Did you know that the Throne Room is a picture of a bosom? As in Abraham's Bosom?

• Throne = Heart
• Slain Lamb = Blood of the Heart
• Twenty-Four Elder = Ribs
• Seven Spirits = Breath/Lungs
• Four Beasts = Four Chambers
• Sea of Glass = Pericardial Fluid
• Etc.

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You should research this topic. It will help you understand the symbolism much better.

@34:10 in the video is where Pastor Mike explains...

Please stop watching these videos of this preacher Mike, this is absurd, stick to scripture instead. you are in error big time.

Peace to you.

 

[Researcher]

Please stop watching these videos of this preacher Mike, this is absurd, stick to scripture instead. you are in error big time.

Peace to you.

Ad-hominem rubbish.

 

[Researcher]

Fantasize all you want.

More ad-hominem rubbish. These comments add nothing to the conversation or debate.

But there is no "Throne Room".

Feel free to change Wikipedia and the countless books, website, videos, sermons etc. that use that phrase.

We should simply stick to what is actually revealed,

Too bad you are not doing that.

Debate me with verses, otherwise your opinions are meaningless.

 

[Researcher]

Yes, this matches the 7 lungs we have.

And the Seven Eyes match what Jesus had right? Because we all have seven eyes?

Yawn.

 

[ewq1938]

And the Seven Eyes match what Jesus had right? Because we all have seven eyes?

Yawn.

throne heart is an anagram for Torah He Rent

 

[tylerbones1313]

It does not in any way say that Jesus is all three. It says his name will be called many things, and this is factual. There are MANY verses which show Jesus separate from the Holy Spirit and God the Father proving there are three that are visibly separate. God does not lie.

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder. And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (Jesus speaking of course)

 

[tylerbones1313]

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder. And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (Jesus speaking of course)

The Bible describes Jesus Christ as being involved in all three of these aspects of God's work.

In creation, Jesus is often referred to as the "Word" of God. In the Gospel of John, Jesus says, "Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58). This statement is a clear claim to deity, as only God is eternal. In the book of Genesis, the "Word" is used to describe God's creative power (Genesis 1:3). This suggests that Jesus was the active agent through which God created the universe.

In redemption, Jesus is the Son of God who came to earth to save humanity from sin. He is often referred to as the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29). Jesus' death on the cross is the central event of Christian theology, as it is through his sacrifice that we are forgiven our sins and reconciled to God.

In regeneration, the Holy Spirit is the one who transforms our hearts and makes us new creations in Christ. Jesus promises to send the Holy Spirit to his followers after he ascends into heaven (John 14:16). The Holy Spirit is the one who gives us the power to live a holy life and to follow Jesus' teachings.

So, the Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is fully God, fully man, and the one who brings salvation to humanity. He is the creator of the universe, the redeemer of our souls, and the giver of the Holy Spirit.

 

[tylerbones1313]

Yes, this matches the 7 lungs we have.

Isaiah 11:1-2
A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2 The Spirit of the Lord will rest on him—
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of might,
the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the Lord—

"sevenfold spirit" in Isaiah 11:2 and as "seven eyes" in Revelation 5:6. The seven spirits are also closely associated with the Holy Spirit, who is described as having seven gifts in 1 Corinthians 12:1-11.

Based on these references, several interpretations suggest what the seven spirits might be called:

The Spirit of Wisdom: This spirit represents God's divine wisdom and insight, guiding and empowering believers to make wise decisions and discern truth from falsehood.

The Spirit of Understanding: This spirit facilitates deeper comprehension and grasp of God's Word, enabling believers to grasp complex concepts and apply biblical principles to their lives.

The Spirit of Counsel: This spirit provides wise counsel and guidance, equipping believers to make sound judgments and navigate challenging situations.

The Spirit of Might: This spirit imparts strength and empowerment, enabling believers to overcome obstacles, resist temptation, and fulfill God's calling in their lives.

The Spirit of Knowledge: This spirit grants intimate knowledge of God's character, attributes, and desires, deepening one's relationship with the divine.

The Spirit of the Fear of the Lord: This spirit instills a reverential fear of God, motivating obedience to God's commands and leading to a life of holiness and righteousness.

The Spirit of Grace: This spirit imparts grace and mercy, enabling individuals to experience God's love, forgiveness, and restoration.

These interpretations offer various perspectives on the potential names of the seven spirits of God, reflecting their diverse and profound roles in the lives of believers.