Baptized With The Holy Spirit
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In the passage, the phrase "straightway out of the water" is used to describe the act of Jesus coming out of the water after being baptized. This suggests that baptism was understood to be an act of immersion, as Jesus would not have been able to come out of the water immediately if he had only been sprinkled or poured with water.
Additionally, the Greek word that is translated as "baptize" in the KJV Bible is "baptizo". This word is derived from the Greek word "bapto", which means to dip or immerse. This further suggests that baptism was intended to be an act of immersion.
Additionally, the Greek word that is translated as "baptize" in the KJV Bible is "baptizo". This word is derived from the Greek word "bapto", which means to dip or immerse. This further suggests that baptism was intended to be an act of immersion.
I am totally in agreement with what baptizo means, but I cannot see where that scripture suggests that. I can come immediately out of the water if my wife says "Lets eat!" It still wouldn't point to me being fully immersed. That's all I'm gonna say about it.
Romans 6
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Being buried mean completely covered that is where I want my Sins completely covered by the Blood of the Lamb.
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Being buried mean completely covered that is where I want my Sins completely covered by the Blood of the Lamb.
Of course I do. I've been around the Bible block a few times.
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The baptism in 1 Corinthians 12:13 is water baptism. The "body" is the local church (in this case, the church at Corinth). The word "by" is the same as in Luke 2:27, "And he came by the Spirit into the temple...", meaning he was led by the Spirit into the temple. The greek word εν is usually translated in or on with the locative case and by (means of) in the instrumental case, as it is here.
Paul's illustration of the "body" in 1 Corinthians 12 is an object, not an individual, nor an organism. He's teaching that every member of the local church is necessary to the functioning of the body as a whole. The same Spirit has led all of the many members into this relationship, each one having been baptized (in water) because it is a prerequisite to church membership.
All being made to drink into one Spirit is consistent with what Peter told them on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:38):
"Then Peter said unto them,
Repent, [Repentance and faith in Christ -- 1st pre-requisite]
and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, [Baptism in water -- 2nd pre-requistie]
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." [Church membership -- where the Spirit resides as Administrator of Truth, Comforter, etc.]
Paul stated in Ephesians 4:5, "One Lord, one faith, one baptism", and that's water baptism.
Paul's illustration of the "body" in 1 Corinthians 12 is an object, not an individual, nor an organism. He's teaching that every member of the local church is necessary to the functioning of the body as a whole. The same Spirit has led all of the many members into this relationship, each one having been baptized (in water) because it is a prerequisite to church membership.
All being made to drink into one Spirit is consistent with what Peter told them on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:38):
"Then Peter said unto them,
Repent, [Repentance and faith in Christ -- 1st pre-requisite]
and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, [Baptism in water -- 2nd pre-requistie]
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." [Church membership -- where the Spirit resides as Administrator of Truth, Comforter, etc.]
Paul stated in Ephesians 4:5, "One Lord, one faith, one baptism", and that's water baptism.
The reactions of people here surprise me a bit . . . None of these texts clearly prove immersion. One would just as much say "came up out of the water" if John poured water on Jesus' head while he was kneeling in the Jordan.
I personally am very OK with using immersion for baptism, and that is probably even to me the preferred mode. However, I see no Scripture that proves immersion by any of the Biblical principles of interpretation.
I personally am very OK with using immersion for baptism, and that is probably even to me the preferred mode. However, I see no Scripture that proves immersion by any of the Biblical principles of interpretation.
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Matthew 3:16, in the Bible, states:
"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him."
This verse describes the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist in the Jordan River. Jesus, who was sinless, submitted to baptism to fulfill all righteousness, as he said to John in Matthew 3:15.
The verse does not explicitly mention immersion, but the language used suggests that Jesus was completely submerged in the water. The word "baptized" comes from the Greek word "baptizo," which means to dip or immerse. The phrase "went up straightway out of the water" implies that Jesus had been fully submerged.
Furthermore, the context of the passage suggests that immersion was the norm for baptism in the early church. John the Baptist was baptizing people in the Jordan River, which would have required them to be fully submerged. The Acts of the Apostles also records several instances of people being baptized by immersion.
Therefore, while Matthew 3:16 does not explicitly state that Jesus was immersed, the language used and the context of the passage suggest that immersion was the most likely mode of baptism.
Here are some additional proofs that immersion was the norm for baptism in the early church:
* The Greek word "baptizo" is used over 100 times in the New Testament, and it always means to dip or immerse.
* The early church fathers, such as Justin Martyr and Tertullian, all wrote about immersion as the proper mode of baptism.
* The early Christian baptismal fonts were designed for immersion.
In conclusion, while Matthew 3:16 does not explicitly mention immersion, the language used and the context of the passage suggest that immersion was the most likely mode of baptism. This is supported by the consistent use of the word "baptizo" in the New Testament, the writings of the early church fathers, and the design of early Christian baptismal fonts.
The definition of the word baptized doesn't even indicate sprinkling or pouring. I personally believe it should always be done by immersion.
"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him."
This verse describes the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist in the Jordan River. Jesus, who was sinless, submitted to baptism to fulfill all righteousness, as he said to John in Matthew 3:15.
The verse does not explicitly mention immersion, but the language used suggests that Jesus was completely submerged in the water. The word "baptized" comes from the Greek word "baptizo," which means to dip or immerse. The phrase "went up straightway out of the water" implies that Jesus had been fully submerged.
Furthermore, the context of the passage suggests that immersion was the norm for baptism in the early church. John the Baptist was baptizing people in the Jordan River, which would have required them to be fully submerged. The Acts of the Apostles also records several instances of people being baptized by immersion.
Therefore, while Matthew 3:16 does not explicitly state that Jesus was immersed, the language used and the context of the passage suggest that immersion was the most likely mode of baptism.
Here are some additional proofs that immersion was the norm for baptism in the early church:
* The Greek word "baptizo" is used over 100 times in the New Testament, and it always means to dip or immerse.
* The early church fathers, such as Justin Martyr and Tertullian, all wrote about immersion as the proper mode of baptism.
* The early Christian baptismal fonts were designed for immersion.
In conclusion, while Matthew 3:16 does not explicitly mention immersion, the language used and the context of the passage suggest that immersion was the most likely mode of baptism. This is supported by the consistent use of the word "baptizo" in the New Testament, the writings of the early church fathers, and the design of early Christian baptismal fonts.
The definition of the word baptized doesn't even indicate sprinkling or pouring. I personally believe it should always be done by immersion.
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Ummmm.... how is using the exact definition of the word in greek a "bit of a stretch" ? That is what the word MEANS. You might as well, say that, even though the word is "to immerse", we're going to go roll them around in sand....
What do you think that "to immerse' means? Good grief... you people.
What do you think that "to immerse' means? Good grief... you people.
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