Why MAGA is the greatest threat to American Democracy

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so, tell me again how you do not watch or listen to mainstream media..

because what you just posted about trump being a dictator for life is 100% a c n n, m s n b c talking point.
Does that matter In context to the question,I’m curious as to how you would vote If you had the power to thumbs up or down,yea or nay to that question In post #5?
 
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It was a valid question would you or not be ok with Obama staying In power beyond the norm If a vote were to be taken that asked “shall Obama remain President until death?

I’m just curious because people love him So much!
My answer would be a FIRM [ N O ]
 
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How did the institutions of power turn against the American people?

I believe out of 12 people you can get a traitor like Judas, but they obviously have much more than 1/12th of the American people backing them. That is what I want to know, how?

I was watching Mika on Morning Joe cry about how terrible these Nazi sympathizers were (MAGA). It was clear to me she can see the end of the US and instead of ascribing the worst motives to her I want to look at this as though she knows what she is talking about.

I think it is like playing chess. You make a bad move, but at the time it doesn't look like a bad move, but after that you only have bad choices and keep making moves that lead to a total loss because you have no other choice.

Ultimately I think the bad move was to support globalism.

1. There is an economic motivation, I imagine all multinational corporations support globalism. It is very easy to try and justify this choice if it comes with a hefty payday. So a lot of politicians probably said "these are Americans too, they employ hundreds of thousands, etc., etc". NAFTA was a very clear step towards globalism. Keeping China as a MFN is a clear step towards globalism.

2. Then there are the pro abortionists. Clearly a globalist government will embrace abortion.

3. Then there are these climate change cult members who would support a globalist government over the US.

I think others like Mika and some of these politicians were sold on the fact that this is a done deal. The US represents 5% of the world's population, MAGA represents 2.5% of the world's population. So they see this as inevitable, there are only two ways this goes down, the cows walk into the slaughterhouse without any issue or else they get gunned down in the pen. Why else would they call MAGA the biggest threat to "American democracy". They know if you don't go along and pretend we have a democracy that the other option is a war that destroys the US. I think they have already been given the ultimatum, Xi, Putin and the rest of the world is not going to wait for Trump to be reelected.

Now once you have gone down that road, and taken bribes, and been enriched by these traitors you can't change your mind. It is like being in the Mafia. You can't get squeamish because someone gets whacked. Also, those who do express even a little bit of squeamishness they whack you as a warning to everyone else.

It is the only way I can explain Biden not being impeached already, or Trump being impeached twice, with a three year Mueller investigation and 91 indictments. How is Hunter Biden not in jail, this is the only explanation I can come up with. How do they not investigate the cocaine in the Whitehouse? No other explanation. How are they using SWAT teams to go smash down the doors of pastors? This is all I can come up with. The die is cast, no turning back.
You ought to consider sending this to a newspaper editorial page.
 

gb9

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Does that matter In context to the question,I’m curious as to how you would vote If you had the power to thumbs up or down,yea or nay to that question In post #5?
to answer the question, no trump staying in office past the term would be a bad thing, set a bad precident.

but, ultimately it is a mute point, because trump would not do that nor has he even said that.
 

maxwel

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Would you be ok with Donald Trump becoming our president with an unlimited time limit to serve as president... maybe even becoming a dictator..."
I don't know any conservatives who believe in dictators.

Dictators do unconscionable things like trying to jail their political opponents who are beating them in all the polls.

Seems like I've heard of someone doing that...


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iamsoandso

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Does that matter In context to the question,I’m curious as to how you would vote If you had the power to thumbs up or down,yea or nay to that question In post #5?

It wont happen for any party in the US,, look at the word 'Despotism' and see how the forefathers used it in the Declaration of Independence. That is it is our RIGHT and DUTY to throw of such government that seeks to rule by monarch,king,dictator... https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
 

Nehemiah6

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Obama?Did you mean to say Biden?
Obama is the puppet master whose sole ambition is to TOTALLY destroy America. Biden in merely the puppet who is doing his bidding.

Each and every move made by Biden was designed to systematically destroy America, the Constitution, the rule of law, the justice system, and everything else, and simply flood the country with illegal migrant invaders and treat them like royalty. Biden should have been arrested and charged with treason and many other high crimes and misdemeanors. But he has been allowed to do whatever he was told to do with no opposition.
 

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Out of curiosity do you believe in conspiracy theories.
 

rrcn

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I have been reliving the horror of the January 6th insurrection now that the footage is released. Terrified cops opening doors, holding them open, shaking hands and directing the protestors to wherever they were going. Adam Kinzinger blubbering, AOC who was only a half mile away cowering in the bathroom stall, and Nancy Pelosi's daughter who was fortuitously doing a documentary film of the capital that day walking through the halls as Nancy and Chuck Schumer consult with the capital police (oops, apparently Nancy said she never talked with them).
Here is a link that shows a the angry mob attacking our Capital. It is very violent.
 

ZNP

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Here is a link that shows a the angry mob attacking our Capital. It is very violent.
Did you watch this? Two people, when you can see thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands in the background doing nothing. Were those two people arrested? No one questions that there were hundreds of thousands exercising their constitutional right to protest. We have lots of video evidence that proves the vast majority of those people were peaceful. People estimate between 500,000 to 1,000,000 people were in the crowd. Only 1,000 were arrested, many of whom never entered the capital, so that means 99.8% didn't do anything worthy of arrest. People who weren't there were arrested and people standing on statues outside were charged. Most of the people who were arrested were charged with trespassing.

They tried to say that they killed a police officer, but that was quickly dismissed as a blatant lie. Then they tried to accuse them of assaulting a police officer but the footage released to Tucker Carlson disproved that. An unarmed woman was shot dead by the police and there has never been a trial concerning that. Another woman died when she got trampled. It is still in dispute whether that was the fault of the police or the crowd.

No one has been convicted of beating a cop that I know of and yet we have these two on video who should be charged with assault.

But I would be very interested in knowing if the two people in this video which you claim indicates the "crowd" was violent were arrested, charged and convicted? Please let me know when you find out, that will assure me that this isn't some ridiculous false flag attempt to paint the crowd as violent.
 

ZNP

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The video evidence is proving that we had much more than two people in the crowd who were FBI informants and other Law enforcement plants. We have other video evidence as well as a conviction that proves a number of notorious ANTIFA members were in the crowd dressed as "Trump Supporters". People need to stop being so naive as rrcn. If you have 500,000 "rioters storming the capital" where are the weapons? where are the injured cops? Why were 499,000 not arrested? Why is it that the majority of those arrested were guilty of "trespassing" when the video we have now clearly shows the cops opening the doors and ushering them in? Why are they mostly grandmothers and grandfathers?

I have learned long ago that the stupidity of the average American cannot be overestimated, but still I find it very hard to believe they could be so naive as to fall for this obvious false flag.

For example, how is it that they have not arrested the person who left the pipe bomb?

and

Why wasn't Ray Epps prosecuted for so long when he obviously was inciting people to go into the capital?
 

Susanna

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Trump lost the election.

He did not accept it.

There’s no evidence of foul play apart from conspiracy theories.

Protesters went to the capitol.

It became violent.

Trump’s sidekicks have taken plea deals to avoid jail due to insisting on fraud without evidence of wrongdoing.

Protesters have been sentenced to prison time after being prosecuted and convicted.

Yet we have conspiracy theorists saying Trump won.

Get over it and try voting him back in instead of whining.
 

ZNP

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Judgement is coming.

I would think the main goal for everyone would be to be right with the Lord. That means do not eat and drink with the drunken and don't beat your fellow servants. Make sure you are spending time with the Lord everyday and have your vessel filled with oil. Also make sure you are ministering to the Lord. This could be by visiting those who are in prison, it could be by preaching the gospel to those who are slaves to sin, there are many ways each of us can invest our talents, just make sure you aren't burying it in the backyard.

The US is the Great Babylon. I realize some try to make it the Vatican, but the merchants of the earth would not be weeping if the Vatican gets destroyed. The US has been involved in sorcery with this vaccine, that is why we share the evidence. The world will hate the US because of her sorcery and that makes perfect sense after the evidence that came out this week.

The US major cities are also Sodom and Gomorrah, fire will fall as in the days of Lot. Before that happens there will be mob violence as we saw in the days of Lot and that will probably be sparked when Damascus becomes a ruinous heap.

There are a number of prophecies which tell us that the great and terrible day of the Lord comes after a Solar eclipse followed by a lunar eclipse. That narrows it down to about one month out of the year on average. Another prophecy says the good man of the house returns on the appointed day which is a Hebrew reference to the full moon, so that would narrow it down to one day a year on average. Amos says that God will change our songs of joy for "our" feasts (not His) to mourning. My best guess is that is referring to Christmas songs which begin after Thanksgiving.

Put that all together and you are looking for Damascus becoming a ruinous heap, followed by mob violence, followed by a full moon that is after Thanksgiving and the first full moon after a lunar eclipse that follows a solar eclipse. The good news is that would be an extremely rare event, except of course if Damascus were destroyed in the next few days prior to the full Moon on Sunday/Monday.

As for "stopping the steal" this is a replay of the book of Esther, with Mordecai and Queen Esther (Q) battling the evil Haman and his plan on killing the people of God.

As for January 6th this is the fulfillment of what we saw with Samson when he was arrested by the Philistines because of Delilah (Deep State). The Jan 6th prisoners are like Samson being locked in prison till his hair could grow again (they violated their vow) and now with the truth coming out with all this video footage the Strong man (Jesus) will push out the pillars (the church will be removed in the rapture) causing the collapse of this temple to Baal.
 

rrcn

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Did you watch this? Two people, when you can see thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands in the background doing nothing. Were those two people arrested? No one questions that there were hundreds of thousands exercising their constitutional right to protest. We have lots of video evidence that proves the vast majority of those people were peaceful. People estimate between 500,000 to 1,000,000 people were in the crowd. Only 1,000 were arrested, many of whom never entered the capital, so that means 99.8% didn't do anything worthy of arrest. People who weren't there were arrested and people standing on statues outside were charged. Most of the people who were arrested were charged with trespassing.

They tried to say that they killed a police officer, but that was quickly dismissed as a blatant lie. Then they tried to accuse them of assaulting a police officer but the footage released to Tucker Carlson disproved that. An unarmed woman was shot dead by the police and there has never been a trial concerning that. Another woman died when she got trampled. It is still in dispute whether that was the fault of the police or the crowd.

No one has been convicted of beating a cop that I know of and yet we have these two on video who should be charged with assault.

But I would be very interested in knowing if the two people in this video which you claim indicates the "crowd" was violent were arrested, charged and convicted? Please let me know when you find out, that will assure me that this isn't some ridiculous false flag attempt to paint the crowd as violent.
74 have been convicted of assault 18 USC 111, I put the info in a spreadsheet but the site wouldn't allow upload so I had to put it in a zip folder. You can take a look for yourself here just search for 18 USC 111 .
 

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rrcn

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74 have been convicted of assault 18 USC 111, I put the info in a spreadsheet but the site wouldn't allow upload so I had to put it in a zip folder. You can take a look for yourself here just search for 18 USC 111 .
Did you watch this? Two people, when you can see thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands in the background doing nothing. Were those two people arrested? No one questions that there were hundreds of thousands exercising their constitutional right to protest. We have lots of video evidence that proves the vast majority of those people were peaceful. People estimate between 500,000 to 1,000,000 people were in the crowd. Only 1,000 were arrested, many of whom never entered the capital, so that means 99.8% didn't do anything worthy of arrest. People who weren't there were arrested and people standing on statues outside were charged. Most of the people who were arrested were charged with trespassing.

They tried to say that they killed a police officer, but that was quickly dismissed as a blatant lie. Then they tried to accuse them of assaulting a police officer but the footage released to Tucker Carlson disproved that. An unarmed woman was shot dead by the police and there has never been a trial concerning that. Another woman died when she got trampled. It is still in dispute whether that was the fault of the police or the crowd.

No one has been convicted of beating a cop that I know of and yet we have these two on video who should be charged with assault.

But I would be very interested in knowing if the two people in this video which you claim indicates the "crowd" was violent were arrested, charged and convicted? Please let me know when you find out, that will assure me that this isn't some ridiculous false flag attempt to paint the crowd as violent.
 

rrcn

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Another person, Matthew Honigford was arrested for assaulting police officers yesterday. A man was convicted yesterday as well, Taylor James Johnatakis. I guess you get the idea.
 
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Obama is the puppet master whose sole ambition is to TOTALLY destroy America. Biden in merely the puppet who is doing his bidding.

Each and every move made by Biden was designed to systematically destroy America, the Constitution, the rule of law, the justice system, and everything else, and simply flood the country with illegal migrant invaders and treat them like royalty. Biden should have been arrested and charged with treason and many other high crimes and misdemeanors. But he has been allowed to do whatever he was told to do with no opposition.
Do you believe In conspiracy theories?😂