Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

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ZNP

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and once again you fail to see fault rather than admit it
Again, show me the Bible reference that condemns telling the truth when it isn't "polite". 0 cred. You call yourself fundaamental, but there is nothing fundamental about your posts, just your opinion.
 

Fundaamental

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Again, show me the Bible reference that condemns telling the truth when it isn't "polite". 0 cred. You call yourself fundaamental, but there is nothing fundamental about your posts, just your opinion.
I call my self fundamental because I love gravy 😊 and you should know that gravity is a fundamental force in the universe. But if you remove it from your left with gravy,

And so no one can ever take my gravy 😁.
 

Fundaamental

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Let me quote you from your post

hmm and you still support the USA and Isreal even tho you post a long history of the USA doing deals with child killers.

But let me guess, yetanyahu hasn't killed any Palestinian children, because fair warning was given.

Now tell me in what war by what country were babies and children never killed? Did Germany avoid killing babies in WW1 or WW2, how about the US? Did we avoid killing babies and children in Japan? How about the Japanese, or the Chinese, or the Cambodians, or Ukrainians, the Russians? Yet you want to hold Israel to a different standard than everyone else in the world. That is my point, with what judgement you judge you shall be judged. The hypocrisy is repugnant.
nope justification of children being killed is hypocrisy,

You say it can't be helped but once a time wars where battled with swords..

Could it be helped then.

You say that it can't be helped but yes it can theese days, there's no excuse for it, because the modern day technology is there.

So Carry on because your hypocrisy is becoming of you
 
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nope justification of children being killed is hypocrisy,

You say it can't be helped but once a time wars where battled with swords..

Could it be helped then.

You say that it can't be helped but yes it can theese days, there's no excuse for it, because the modern day technology is there.

So Carry on because your hypocrisy is becoming of you
It is hypocrisy that the supposed justification for the war is said to be terrorism (or war crimes), and yet now these same people are justifying the state committing the same war crimes. Either terrorism and war crimes are justified, or they are not. It is hypocritical to say it's not allowed for one side, but that it is for the other.
 

Fundaamental

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Again, show me the Bible reference that condemns telling the truth when it isn't "polite". 0 cred. You call yourself fundaamental, but there is nothing fundamental about your posts, just your opinion.
I could show you numerous scriptures that condemn people but I don't read the Bible for that purpose.

But really if you want to have a discussion on condemning are you sure you can handle it, as your past record says you often get your nickers in a twist
 

Fundaamental

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It is hypocrisy that the supposed justification for the war is said to be terrorism (or war crimes), and yet now these same people are justifying the state committing the same war crimes. Either terrorism and war crimes are justified, or they are not. It is hypocritical to say it's not allowed for one side, but that it is for the other.
agreed completely mate 😉
 

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I HATE war but I wonder what you mean by innocent people? they voted for Hamas, they support Hamas, they provide shelter and support for Hamas, allow them to build their military capabilities under their schools and hospitals.
That was in 2006, half of the population is under 18 who did not vote for Hamas.

This is called blaming the victim.
 

HeIsHere

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explain the wickedness of using children as human shields. You can't even plumb the depths of depravity of Hamas ... you can only deny it.
How about you actually read up on the law which defines human shields.
Israel has used Palestinians as human shields this has been documented.
 

HeIsHere

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Yes. I am being honest.

1. He cherry picked a few words out of a post while ignoring 8 documented times when God responded to our actions proving that the Land is His, He will decide who gets it, and He is still very much fulfilling His word to bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel.

2. In the second post you quote he made some unsubstantiated statements. I asked for the link. He never provided it and tried to pretend like he could simply ignore that request. When you make wild, unsubstantiated claims it is indicative of someone who is lying. I was polite, I asked for the link and he tries to ignore that? Nope, that is what liars do.
Please stop this is a discussion board, people post all kinds of things with no proof, I am not obligated to you.

I also have a right to ignore if I do not see any point.
 

Magenta

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How about you actually read up on the law which defines human shields.
Israel has used Palestinians as human shields this has been documented.
While you scoff at the idea that Hamas uses civilians as human shields. You are ridiculous.

A fundamental lack of humanity.
Go look in the mirror.
 

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well my conversation with God says the Palestinians voted for the hamas politicians and not the extreme radical side of hamas, as well you know even Christianity has radical groups that can't be helped by decent Christians
This is correct, people who have very limited understanding of international relations want to make this into a religious dispute, it is not.
 

Magenta

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This is correct, people who have very limited understanding of international relations want to make this into a religious dispute, it is not.
You show a shocking level of ignorance to remove religion from the centuries long "disputes" between Muslims and Jews.

Perhaps especially all the more so considering how learned you consider yourself to be.
 

Fundaamental

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This is correct, people who have very limited understanding of international relations want to make this into a religious dispute, it is not.
I agree completely, this is why I posted the biden YouTube video, he tried to claim that the reason hamas bombed Isreal last month's is because of prophecy in the bible, he even said I can't prove that, so why even say ?.

It's obvious he's promoting religious fanaticism to promote the war further
 

HeIsHere

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I agree completely, this is why I posted the biden YouTube video, he tried to claim that the reason hamas bombed Isreal last month's is because if prophecy in the bible, he even said I can't prove that, so why even say ?.

It's obvious he's promoting religious fanaticism to promote the war further

Propaganda and the subversion of the truth is as real on this as it was during Nazi Germany.

Sadly the USA has made some very bad decisions with their support of ethnic cleansing and other war crimes.
In 2002 the Bush Administration chastised Israel for killing 15 Palestinians, look how far they have fallen with approx 5000 innocent children dead.

People who cannot bring themselves to condemn this and blame the victims have been mentally enslaved to the propaganda.
 

Fundaamental

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Propaganda and the subversion of the truth is as real on this as it was during Nazi Germany.

Sadly the USA has made some very bad decisions with their support of ethnic cleansing and other war crimes.
In 2002 the Bush Administration chastised Israel for killing 15 Palestinians, look how far they have fallen with approx 5000 innocent children dead.

People who cannot bring themselves to condemn this and blame the victims have been mentally enslaved to the propaganda.
and it will only continue to happen as a result of these naive responses coming from people who lack experience,
 

Fundaamental

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Again, show me the Bible reference that condemns telling the truth when it isn't "polite". 0 cred. You call yourself fundaamental, but there is nothing fundamental about your posts, just your opinion.
Galatians 4:16


16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?[a]
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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well my conversation with God says the Palestinians voted for the hamas politicians and not the extreme radical side of hamas, as well you know even Christianity has radical groups that can't be helped by decent Christians
Such as...?
 

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desperate people hoping to save them self's and there families acting and thinking in a state of panic, being forced to shield them self's. That is good hamas people that is. And maybe even the children saying to them if we stay here with you because we don't want to leave you maybe Isreal won't kill you
'''' right then
 

HeIsHere

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desperate people hoping to save them self's and there families acting and thinking in a state of panic, being forced to shield them self's. That is good hamas people that is. And maybe even the children saying to them if we stay here with you because we don't want to leave you maybe Isreal won't kill you
It is Israel who over time has weaponized the excuse of "human shields" as cover for their indiscriminate bombing.