Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
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the original question as no real foundation. As to the people of Palestine voted for hamas so they only have themselves to blame.

This question shows lack of conviction. As most of Palestinians population are young people.

How can they be expected to blamed for there ignorance when we have mature adults asking this question here ?

Besides this how and when a side of hamas became radicals must be proven first before such reasoning can be made.
 
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HeIsHere said:
It is Israel who over time has weaponized the excuse of "human shields" as cover for their indiscriminate bombing.
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yes the Isreal leaders speak as if honour as been abused, because they say hamas are cowards for using people as human shields. But where is the honour in what they have done to Gazza in 5 weeks ?. I say that would also be hypocrisy at its finest.

What Isreal are really saying is we have honour and no one does.

They say this whilst hiding behind there 2 ton bombs and the backing of nuclear armed countries,

If you where take this backing away from them they would not have such an ego I expect
 
ThereRoseaLamb said:
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Such as those who do NOT follow what Scripture teaches. He is comparing apples to oranges, since Hamas
is doing exactly what their demonic so-called holy books instruct them to do, only he refuses to acknowledge
this fact, nor do those who support him acknowledge this fact, because they are patently dishonest.

Then some have the audacity to claim religion has nothing to do with their ongoing disputes. Unbelievable!!!
 
Magenta said:
Such as those who do NOT follow what Scripture teaches. He is comparing apples to oranges, since Hamas
is doing exactly what their demonic so-called holy books instruct them to do, only he refuses to acknowledge
this fact, nor do those who support him acknowledge this fact, because they are patently dishonest.

Then some have the audacity to claim religion has nothing to do with their ongoing disputes. Unbelievable!!!
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could you answer why you would just want to associate this war solely on religious arguments.

Because your foundation is based upon this reasoning,

Do you think I'm not answering in full for no good reason
 
Fundaamental said:
could you answer why you would just want to associate this war solely on religious arguments.

Because your foundation is based upon this reasoning,

Do you think I'm not answering in full for no good reason
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When did I say this war was based SOLELY on religious arguments?

You present a logical fallacy, and dishonestly pretend I said something I have not.
 
Magenta said:
When did I say this war was based SOLELY on religious arguments?

You present a logical fallacy, and dishonestly pretend I said something I have not.
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you said hamas are doing what there Bible tells them to do, I'm asking how you know such, obviously you don't want to answer
 
Fundaamental said:
Galatians 4:16


16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?[a]
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Paul spoke the truth, they were offended, that is on them, not on Paul, that is what he is saying.

Peter came and did not act according to the truth and Paul rebuked him before all. Peter didn't accuse Paul of being immoral, on the contrary he repented.
 
Fundaamental said:
nope justification of children being killed is hypocrisy,

You say it can't be helped but once a time wars where battled with swords..

Could it be helped then.

You say that it can't be helped but yes it can theese days, there's no excuse for it, because the modern day technology is there.

So Carry on because your hypocrisy is becoming of you
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A non answer, I'll take that to mean there is no country that is not guilty of the same crime. I am more concerned with my judgement when I stand before the Lord, I am not a judge and I am not going to be pointing fingers. Your posts do nothing but point fingers at others, condemning others, hence I conclude you are self righteous.
 
ZNP said:
A non answer, I'll take that to mean there is no country that is not guilty of the same crime. I am more concerned with my judgement when I stand before the Lord, I am not a judge and I am not going to be pointing fingers. Your posts do nothing but point fingers at others, condemning others, hence I conclude you are self righteous.
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Galatians 4:16


16 Have I then become your enemy by telling you the truth?[a]
 
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HeIsHere said:
It is Israel who over time has weaponized the excuse of "human shields" as cover for their indiscriminate bombing.
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I have just heard a speech from yetanyahu.

He's had 3 days of cease fire to contemplate.

All he had to say was we will carry on with the war untill all his objectives are fulfilled. Which means he fully intends to carry on with this brutality, which means he has no remorse for the loss of life already.

They are his objectives not mine or not more than 2 thirds of the world population if not more.

He speaks as if he has the backing of all his people and addresses Isreal as his people, but over here in the UK there are many Jewish people who condemn his behaviour.

His ego is there for all to see and it's one that has grown in confidence,

He's basically just spoke Publicly to the whole world with not a single bit of sadness for 5000 children dead in 5 weeks from his onslaught of military might and financial backing of unlimited resource should he need it. Basically we have just witnessed a mass murdering anti Semitic walk away Scott free before are very eyes. And with the full back of our UK leaders and the USA leaders.

Just as every other war that happens this way. Theese leaders will continue to condemn theese same crimes that others commit but make Martyrs out of themselves, even tho they are committing theese crimes on a monstrosity level.
 
Fundaamental said:
I have just heard a speech from yetanyahu.

He's had 3 days of cease fire to contemplate.

All he had to say was we will carry on with the war untill all his objectives are fulfilled. Which means he fully intends to carry on with this brutality, which means he has no remorse for the loss of life already.

They are his objectives not mine or not more than 2 thirds of the world population if not more.

He speaks as if he has the backing of all his people and addresses Isreal as his people, but over here in the UK there are many Jewish people who condemn his behaviour.

His ego is there for all to see and it's one that has grown in confidence,

He's basically just spoke Publicly to the whole world with not a single bit of sadness for 5000 children dead in 5 weeks from his onslaught of military might and financial backing of unlimited resource should he need it. Basically we have just witnessed a mass murdering anti Semitic walk away Scott free before are very eyes. And with the full back of our UK leaders and the USA leaders.

Just as every other war that happens this way. Theese leaders will continue to condemn theese same crimes that others commit but make Martyrs out of themselves, even tho they are committing theese crimes on a monstrosity level.
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A person who has no empathy for the human suffering of innocent children is a psycho/socio path, but not only does he not care he is responsible.

But make no mistake even he too is a puppet of higher powers and I am not speaking about Satan.
What we are seeing are various proxy wars being waged as world powers shift.

And if the US/Britain/France had not meddled in the middle east we would not have had multiple human tragedies, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Palestine etc.,
 
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Fundaamental said:
I have just heard a speech from yetanyahu.

He's had 3 days of cease fire to contemplate.

All he had to say was we will carry on with the war untill all his objectives are fulfilled. Which means he fully intends to carry on with this brutality, which means he has no remorse for the loss of life already.

They are his objectives not mine or not more than 2 thirds of the world population if not more.

He speaks as if he has the backing of all his people and addresses Isreal as his people, but over here in the UK there are many Jewish people who condemn his behaviour.

His ego is there for all to see and it's one that has grown in confidence,

He's basically just spoke Publicly to the whole world with not a single bit of sadness for 5000 children dead in 5 weeks from his onslaught of military might and financial backing of unlimited resource should he need it. Basically we have just witnessed a mass murdering anti Semitic walk away Scott free before are very eyes. And with the full back of our UK leaders and the USA leaders.

Just as every other war that happens this way. Theese leaders will continue to condemn theese same crimes that others commit but make Martyrs out of themselves, even tho they are committing theese crimes on a monstrosity level.
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Yes this is truly disgusting, and more appalling are the (zionist) Christians who cannot bring to themselves to condemn what is so obviously crimes against humanity.
 
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HeIsHere said:
A person who has no empathy for the human suffering of innocent children is a psycho/socio path, but not only does he not care he is responsible.

But make no mistake even he too is a puppet of higher powers and I am not speaking about Satan.
What we are seeing are various proxy wars being waged as world powers shift.

And if the US/Britain/France had not meddled in the middle east we would not have had multiple human tragedies, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Palestine etc.,
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yes there are many socio paths in world politics, I see it time and time again even in the UK there is so much poison from people in politics, and the way in which some wars are encouraged to start before they happen, really is up there on a high level of sociopath.

Tony Blair
David Cameron

Both are real social paths.

David Cameron battled long on hard for the UK to go to war with Syria. They even put it to vote in the house of commons, the vote was lost by a narrow margin, thank God. But only because tony Blair before him was proven to be a sociopath

But what I'm saying the way in which theese politicians try to convince people to vote yes, is right up there with the Adolf Hitler's of this world.

They really are all as bad as each other, regardless of what they say about others being dictators, theese are the real dictators, who get made lords and get crowned in glory , made rich with untold wealths.

David Cameron sacked as British prime minister has now been given the role as forienge secretary, which is the second highest rank in politics.

God help us. I suspect the real Nazis of this world are the UK and USA
 
HeIsHere said:
Yes this is truly disgusting, and more appalling are the (zionist) Christians who cannot
bring to themselves to condemn what is so obviously crimes against humanity.
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Yes, yes, I do see what you mean, especially when you yourself deny that Hamas is committing war crimes.

Do you also see that as disgusting and appalling? Probably not. Your hypocrisy and double
standards have been well noted for quite some time. You prefer to remain blind to them.
 
Magenta said:
Yes, yes, I do see what you mean, especially when you yourself deny that Hamas is committing war crimes.

Do you also see that as disgusting and appalling? Probably not. Your hypocrisy and double
standards have been well noted for quite some time. You prefer to remain blind to them.
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I haven't seen that all I see is someone who hates war
 
Biden has just gave a speech and as of most of his speeches the cough was there with his lies.

I knew a judge who I did work for and he told on regular occurrences people who where proven to be guilty after lying would always cough in court when asked to swear on the holy bible.

He told me it was almost as if the bread of life was being expelled from them just like with Judas when he coughed up the bread of life.

He told me every time he heard this cough they always proven guilty, the ones who never coughed where always proven innocent.

From bidens last 3 speeches the same cough has been there, it's not a normal cough and you know it once you see it, it's lasts briefly for one second the Judge told me this.
 
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4 mins 30 secs into the video Isreal vows to give hamas the mother of all thumpings,

Haven't they already had that ?


but who exactly is getting that thumping, as the first day of a cease fire comes to end it's been reported a further 100 civilians have died with Isreal dropping over 100 missiles in just a few hours., civilians who where told to flee south, where given little notice as Isreal started to bomb southern regions of the south.

To give you an idea of how bad the situation is, The whole of Gazza strip known as the world's most congested smallest area of over population, is now housing all of its people in less than half the size of the Gazza region, in the southern region. Predictions suggest that by time this is all over 75000 innocent cent civilians will be dead.

Isreal is now giving the southern region the mother of all thumpings.l

With news reports that not enough aid has been let through in the cease fire, with reports no humanitarian aid has been allowed through today.

Once again Isreal continue to ignore plea from many countries to not kill anymore civilians and to allow civvilan aid, and instead issue this mother of all thumping warning. This is despite many hostages being release and Hamas politicians offering to get more hostages released over the next two days.
 
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Isreal intensifies it's attacks on the south, with media reporting 700 civilians have been killed in 24 hours 😞.

Many fear that Isreal will force the Palestinians to flea from the south back into the hands of the enemy, which is of course hamas,

Isreal claim Gazza will be a better place once hamas is eliminated, and that hamas don't care about the Palestinians, are they having a laugh
 
Fundaamental said:
Isreal intensifies it's attacks on the south, with media reporting 700 civilians have been killed in 24 hours 😞.

Many fear that Isreal will force the Palestinians to flea from the south back into the hands of the enemy, which is of course hamas,

Isreal claim Gazza will be a better place once hamas is eliminated, and that hamas don't care about the Palestinians, are they having a laugh
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Oh NOW Hamas is the bad guy!? smh
 
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