Does God Know From All Eternity Who Will Die Having Rejected Sound Doctrine?

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PaulThomson

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John146 said:
Calvin's sovereignty has God ordaining all things that come to pass. The biblical view of sovereignty is that God has all authority over all creation and is working in and through the decisions of man to bring about his desired end as he has set forth in his word.
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Also, Calvin's idea of sovereignty isn't in any dictionary either.
 
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John146 said:
Calvin's sovereignty has God ordaining all things that come to pass.
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Yes. Reformed Theology and Calvin have gone way beyond what Scripture reveals. "God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeable ordain whatsoever comes to pass; 65 yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin,66nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.67"

It is impossible that God would have predetermined or foreordained all the sin, evil, and wickedness that has existed in the world, and continues to manifest itself. GOD ALLOWS SIN AND EVIL but that is not the same thing as pre-ordaining it.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Yes. Reformed Theology and Calvin have gone way beyond what Scripture reveals. "God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeable ordain whatsoever comes to pass; 65 yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin,66nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.67"

It is impossible that God would have predetermined or foreordained all the sin, evil, and wickedness that has existed in the world, and continues to manifest itself. GOD ALLOWS SIN AND EVIL but that is not the same thing as pre-ordaining it.
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Calvinism is a broad spectrum of opinions. People identifying themselves as Calvinists disagree on many points. I am more interested in your opinions than arguing the jello of Calvinism.

How much of what has happened in the world was not eternally decreed to be so by God in YOUR opinion, Nehemiah6?
 
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