Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

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Magenta

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It is not your place to make these decisions.
It is totally within my purview to decide when and where and with whom I worship God.

And it is totally NOT within your purview to tell me otherwise.
 

Magenta

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You keep repeating the same false argument about them being corrupt and dogmatic. I've already told you the Pharisees were just as corrupt and Jesus still told everyone to obey them.
Their dogmas contradict the Word of God which you repeatedly fail to acknowledge.

Therefore you contradict your very own self and what you try to push onto others.
 

NTNT58

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It is totally within my purview to decide when and where and with whom I worship God.

And it is totally NOT within your purview to tell me otherwise.
That was the exact attitude of ancient Israelites, who built groves and worshiped the LORD in high places, instead of the one place God has sanctioned for them. Do you know what happened to them? Have you even read the Bible?
 

Magenta

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That was the exact attitude of ancient Israelites, who built groves and worshiped the LORD in high places, instead
of the one place God has sanctioned for them. Do you know what happened to them? Have you even read the Bible?
I doubt you have or you would know that Catholic dogma forbids the true Christian from being a Roman Catholic.
 

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Their dogmas contradict the Word of God which you repeatedly fail to acknowledge.

Therefore you contradict your very own self and what you try to push onto others.
You keep repeating the same thing, and it's not helping your argument when I ALREADY AGREED WITH YOU that some of their beliefs contradict the word of God. I already told you several times - YOU DON"T HAVE TO OBEY AUTHORITY IF IT GOES AGAINST GOD. How many times are you going to keep repeating yourself? You still have to be subject to authority and do everything they say that doesn't contradict God.
 

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I doubt you have or you would know that Catholic dogma forbids the true Christian from being a Roman Catholic.
You missed the point again. You don't have to follow everything they say, only that which DOES NOT contradict true Christianity.
 

Magenta

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Sounds like you don't even know what that means...
I know you are introducing more and more stupidity into your arguments as if they have any
validity based on things I said, which is just dishonesty on your part, because I said no such thing.
 

Magenta

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You missed the point again. You don't have to follow everything they say, only that which DOES NOT contradict true Christianity.
Educate yourself on ex cathedra dogmas. Clearly you are ignorant of the facts.

Then you will understand that you have missed the point again and again and again.
 

Magenta

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Irrelevant! We don't need to follow any dogmas that go against the word of God.
You miss the point again. You cannot be a Roman Catholic if you reject their Marion dogmas.

Your skull is so thick! But you can bow and scrape to the pope and call him
your daddy if you want even though it goes against the very words of Jesus.
 

posthuman

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RCC has authority according to the Bible
why?

shouldn't the church of. Jerusalem, since you argue, Peter. is not the apostle to ge tiles. but Jews? Roman empire is ge tile, not Jewish, and Jerusalem is part. of the Easter Roman empire, not the west.

The RCC argument for preimenence makes zero sense, and even if that argument was to be accepted, then Moscow is the head of the Roman empire church, not Rome. Rome has not been the seat of the Roman empire since the 300s
 

NTNT58

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More lies from you.
I provided DOZENS of Bible verses as proof, while you haven't provided a single one! All you've done is spew a bunch of your opinions, not backed up by anything in the Bible.
 

Magenta

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I provided DOZENS of Bible verses as proof, while you haven't provided a single one! All you've done is spew a bunch of your opinions, not backed up by anything in the Bible.
You have proven nothing... except that you are a liar.
 

posthuman

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I provided DOZENS of Bible verses as proof, while you haven't provided a single one! All you've done is spew a bunch of your opinions, not backed up by anything in the Bible.
i submit that the epistle to the Romans was written by Paul, not Peter.

so, that's 433 verses.
 

NTNT58

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You miss the point again. You cannot be a Roman Catholic if you reject their Marion dogmas.
It's because of people like you, who rebel against authority. If more people actually went and fought against the heresies, there wouldn't be any. Just like they became extremely liberal, they could have been conservative by now.
 

Magenta

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It's because of people like you, who rebel against authority. If more people actually went and fought against the heresies, there wouldn't be any. Just like they became extremely liberal, they could have been conservative by now.
LOL. More contradictions from you.
 

NTNT58

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why?

shouldn't the church of. Jerusalem, since you argue, Peter. is not the apostle to ge tiles. but Jews? Roman empire is ge tile, not Jewish, and Jerusalem is part. of the Easter Roman empire, not the west.

The RCC argument for preimenence makes zero sense, and even if that argument was to be accepted, then Moscow is the head of the Roman empire church, not Rome. Rome has not been the seat of the Roman empire since the 300s
You're talking about centuries? Peter was dead by the time the church arrived in Rome.

I provided dozens of Bible verses proving Peter was chief among disciples, you haven't addressed any.

Orthodox church separated themselves in the 11th century, and their line of succession does not come from Peter.
 

NTNT58

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You have proven nothing... except that you are a liar.
That's just your opinion, and you provided no evidence to support it. Wrong as usual. All opinions and never any proof.