If satan wants to be saved from himself, will Jesus Save him??

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Pramila

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According to my understanding,

Angels have free will. They can fall. They cannot be redeemed though. Angels have seen God and dwelt with him. When they fall away they cannot be redeemed they are cast out. They can still come and go, as Lucifer does in the book of Job, but they are not among heavens angels. If they break the laws of God too severely they can be cast into the abyss, which is apparently a region in hell. This is where Legion did not want to be sent.

Jesus, who is the Christ, did not die for sins of angels - but for the sins of man. Angels are already in their immortal form. If there is redemption for angels the Bible does not speak to it.
 

Omegatime

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According to my understanding,

Jesus, who is the Christ, did not die for sins of angels - but for the sins of man. Angels are already in their immortal form. If there is redemption for angels the Bible does not speak to it.
Agreed, angels cannot be covered by Grace

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John146

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According to my understanding,

Angels have free will. They can fall. They cannot be redeemed though. Angels have seen God and dwelt with him. When they fall away they cannot be redeemed they are cast out. They can still come and go, as Lucifer does in the book of Job, but they are not among heavens angels. If they break the laws of God too severely they can be cast into the abyss, which is apparently a region in hell. This is where Legion did not want to be sent.

Jesus, who is the Christ, did not die for sins of angels - but for the sins of man. Angels are already in their immortal form. If there is redemption for angels the Bible does not speak to it.
Scripture has already stated Satan's eternal fate.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 

Pilgrimshope

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According to my understanding,

Angels have free will. They can fall. They cannot be redeemed though. Angels have seen God and dwelt with him. When they fall away they cannot be redeemed they are cast out. They can still come and go, as Lucifer does in the book of Job, but they are not among heavens angels. If they break the laws of God too severely they can be cast into the abyss, which is apparently a region in hell. This is where Legion did not want to be sent.

Jesus, who is the Christ, did not die for sins of angels - but for the sins of man. Angels are already in their immortal form. If there is redemption for angels the Bible does not speak to it.
“And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:7-9‬ ‭

“Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

…..And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:4, 7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬

……….And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It has some to say about the subject
 

SomeDisciple

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We know what prophecy says about him... and the only thing I can even guess about him; is that he is so wrapped up in the idea of being worshipped and/or being God himself... that there is just no way for him.

I think he would carry on his rebellion forever and ever if God let him.

Paul says that one day we will judge angels; and at that time, we will know everything we need to know. At this time; it's none of our business if there is or ever was a redemption plan for any angels- it's between them and God; they are his servants: we can only be certain, knowing God, that he has been fair to the angels in all his dealings with them.

Sympathy for the devil is certainly misguided... he's certainly no more worthy than those who die in their sins. Our eyes won't pity them in the day of judgement and all the deception corruption and evil is going to be purged.