Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

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Fundaamental

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Oh NOW Hamas is the bad guy!? smh
There's no question that what hamas did, a radical extremist group of probably a small group of people did, who associating themselves as Hamas was an appalling act,

But to answer your question I was only repeating what social media side,

I can not take sides in this.

There's a long history of these people hating each other.

Tho something is not right.

It's like the name Adolf Hitler, when you think of the name Hitler ? How appropriate can a name be for hitting people with loads of bombs basically hitting everybody.

When you look at the name hamas how many people have become bacon ?.

They both seem to be unusual invented names.

I wonder if the divided language plays apart here, ? Something you may not be aware off but there is a vocabulary that is of Satan, but here's a hint in the sense both Hitler and Hamas are both created decoys and fall guys,
 

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Fundaamental

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IDK but I know one thing, Biden is finding enemies at every turn. Blacks are saying they won't vote for him and may go republican. Arabs are saying they are staying home and won't vote. And Jews seem to be losing faith in their liberal party. He needs a "miracle" to get through this one.
the whole world is saying United nations could be doing more to stop this war, as well as to get more humanitarian aid through,

I personally feel the lack of conscience being shown and the comments made as well is the main reason,
 

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the whole world is saying United nations could be doing more to stop this war, as well as to get more humanitarian aid through,

I personally feel the lack of conscience being shown and the comments made as well is the main reason,
Perhaps the Lord is speaking to you to do something.
 

Fundaamental

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Perhaps the Lord is speaking to you to do something.
all I can do is express my concern for this war to stop, as of most of the world.

It's a shame you can't 🙂.
 

ZNP

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all I can do is express my concern for this war to stop, as of most of the world.

It's a shame you can't 🙂.
John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

As for your accusation of shame, it is the Lord that I serve who will judge me, not you.
 

Fundaamental

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John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

As for your accusation of shame, it is the Lord that I serve who will judge me, not you.
I get judged everyday by the lord, oh and I welcome it, 👍

Where as you threaten it, that's the difference 🙂
 

ZNP

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I get judged everyday by the lord, oh and I welcome it, 👍

Where as you threaten it, that's the difference 🙂
You are mistaken.

Threaten -- state one's intention to take hostile action against someone in retribution for something done or not done.

I have no intention nor have I stated any intention to take hostile action against anyone. What I am doing is warning.

Warn -- inform someone in advance of an impending or possible danger, problem, or other unpleasant situation.

Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
 

Fundaamental

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You are mistaken.

Threaten -- state one's intention to take hostile action against someone in retribution for something done or not done.

I have no intention nor have I stated any intention to take hostile action against anyone. What I am doing is warning.

Warn -- inform someone in advance of an impending or possible danger, problem, or other unpleasant situation.

Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
nope not mistaken,

Try reading psalms 139 it will or it should reveal to you how we are known by God and how we are Judged by God,

But seeing as you lack in something called honesty I doubt the lord would be able to search your heart and know it
 

Fundaamental

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You are mistaken.

Threaten -- state one's intention to take hostile action against someone in retribution for something done or not done.

I have no intention nor have I stated any intention to take hostile action against anyone. What I am doing is warning.

Warn -- inform someone in advance of an impending or possible danger, problem, or other unpleasant situation.

Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
I suspect your type to not take advice of anyone,

And some one who hides behind the word of God.

So here it is if you can be bothered to change your ignorance that is.

You have searched me, Lord,
and you know me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.
3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.
4 Before a word is on my tongue
you, Lord, know it completely.
5 You hem me in behind and before,
and you lay your hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.
7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,
10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.
11 If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,”
12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you.
13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
17 How precious to me are your thoughts,[a] God!
How vast is the sum of them!
18 Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand—
when I awake, I am still with you.
19 If only you, God, would slay the wicked!
Away from me, you who are bloodthirsty!
20 They speak of you with evil intent;
your adversaries misuse your name.
21 Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord,
and abhor those who are in rebellion against you?
22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.
23 Search me, God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting
 

ZNP

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I suspect your type to not take advice of anyone,

And some one who hides behind the word of God.

So here it is if you can be bothered to change your ignorance that is.

You have searched me, Lord,
and you know me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.
3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.
4 Before a word is on my tongue
you, Lord, know it completely.
5 You hem me in behind and before,
and you lay your hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.
7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,
10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.
11 If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,”
12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you.
13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
17 How precious to me are your thoughts,[a] God!
How vast is the sum of them!
18 Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand—
when I awake, I am still with you.
19 If only you, God, would slay the wicked!
Away from me, you who are bloodthirsty!
20 They speak of you with evil intent;
your adversaries misuse your name.
21 Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord,
and abhor those who are in rebellion against you?
22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.
23 Search me, God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting
And where does this show that I threatened you? Oh, it doesn't. Like I said you are mistaken, I did not threaten, I warned.
 

Fundaamental

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where have I threatened you



you call yourself fundamental but there is nothing fundamental about your posts, just your opinion.


Your posts do nothing but point fingers at others, condemning others, hence I conclude you are self righteous.

That is my point, with what judgement you judge you shall be judged. The hypocrisy is repugnant.
Like I said your track record speaks for itself 🙂.
 

ZNP

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Once again, not an example of threatening. You made the accusation, but have completely failed to support it with a single post. I think the term for that is slander.
 

Fundaamental

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Once again, not an example of threatening. You made the accusation, but have completely failed to support it with a single post. I think the term for that is slander.
your not innocent
 

Fundaamental

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Many people become bitter and angry in a disagreement, and a lot people then descend into hatefulness, well when this happens we have lost the battle, as a Christian I must cooperate with God, if I claim I'm a Christian but have hate for a brother then God's words says I'm a liar.

But what I can hate according to God's word is evil, but that doesn't mean to say I need to hate evil in the same way I should hate like evil does.

If I was to hate the same way I would become foolish, and the foolish will not stand before God, as most foolish people become workers of iniquity, they end up loving violence, as there soul grows in hatred,

This generally seems to be what this war has grown.

It has grown hatred for a whole bunch of people where by such people are justifying the death of innocent people.

And the hatred that has grown is based upon a small group of people who carried out the Isreal attack last month
 

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The latest most wonderful news about this war.

America has now just said we are giving Isreal 1 more month to end this war at the current rate in which they are bombing and killing people. basically folks, that's 1 whole month of Upto a thousand civilians being killed each day before we demand they stop,

The Isreal soldiers are now integrating innocent civilians and stripping hundreds of Palestinians naked without clothing. There's images of truck loads of naked Palestinians.

So basically folks the USA are justifying 1 whole month of this mass murder and brutality.


What do you all think 🤔

Is this wonderful 😊
 

Fundaamental

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Just confirmed that nato have voted for an immediate cease fire in Gazza.

Every country's has voted in agreement apart from the USA playing a vito and the UK,

What does that mean,

Well any main nuclear power country playing a vito allows the war to continue.

So what where seeing is Ukraine Russia all over again,

Remember Russia and China playing a vito.

And where all seeing the same scenario play out where theese NATO leaders express there views of how bad this war is but yet it continues. What there really saying is where a load liars playing everyone for idiots, basically nato are Nazis

Well I knew it would happen this way as every NATO vote there is always a vito from a major nuclear power country.

It's so predictable.