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Jesus never said repent...wow!!! That is news to me...What Bible do you read? And when He said go and sin no more He really didnt mean it? Come on dud you can do better than that...I hope?
I guess when He told the man He healed at the pool of Bethesda to go and sin no more less a worse thing come upon Him, He was just playing head games with Him too?
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
Certainly you understand Jesus WAS telling the truth. This was not a scare tactic but truth for the lips of Jesus himself.
I guess when He told the man He healed at the pool of Bethesda to go and sin no more less a worse thing come upon Him, He was just playing head games with Him too?
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
Certainly you understand Jesus WAS telling the truth. This was not a scare tactic but truth for the lips of Jesus himself.
Amen bro the bible is the only truth we can trust completely. What I am doing here is two fold.
#1 Creating an avenue to which others can get to know me and what I believe better
#2 Helping people who may have certain question about something they havent quite figured out yet.
Believe me when I tell you, no one will shake my faith or believe in the one and only true God Jesus Christ our Lord.
#1 Creating an avenue to which others can get to know me and what I believe better
#2 Helping people who may have certain question about something they havent quite figured out yet.
Believe me when I tell you, no one will shake my faith or believe in the one and only true God Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 5:14 has nothing to do with repentance of any personal sin as you presume. Jesus is dealing with this man's mental attitude and evil heart of unbelief (v.5-8) which was sin (Heb 3:12, Mt 13:58, 7:20, Mk 6:6, 16:14). Jesus was saying to him to stop living in the sin of unbelief that you lived in for (38) years. You took up your bed and were made whole, now don't go back and live that way in your mental attitude of no faith because that would be sin for you (Rom 14:23b), and a worse thing would come unto you then what you experienced in those (38) years. Jesus was trying to get to this man's heart through his head by healing him and revealing to him the hardness of his heart of unbelief (Mk 10:5 16:14). For this man, SIN NO MORE meant for him not to back and live in his evil and hardened heart of unbelief.
4runner,
i am sure you do not believe Adam is the Devil, which is what i am convinced is the
Truth; so, can you tell me how it is that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said they
could not touch the 'forbidden fruit' (Gen 3:2-3), but, yet, the devil is the one who told
the first lie (Jn 8:44)? (Hint: in order to lie, one must first know the truth). Or, can you
tell me what was the subtle act(s) of the serpent which caused Eve to become
deceived? Or, since it is impossible to deceive one who knows the absolute Truth (the
basis for the Bible), how is it that Eve was deceived, except that she never knew the
absolute Truth?
I look forward to reading your responses, if it is the case that you take my questions seriously.
SS
i am sure you do not believe Adam is the Devil, which is what i am convinced is the
Truth; so, can you tell me how it is that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said they
could not touch the 'forbidden fruit' (Gen 3:2-3), but, yet, the devil is the one who told
the first lie (Jn 8:44)? (Hint: in order to lie, one must first know the truth). Or, can you
tell me what was the subtle act(s) of the serpent which caused Eve to become
deceived? Or, since it is impossible to deceive one who knows the absolute Truth (the
basis for the Bible), how is it that Eve was deceived, except that she never knew the
absolute Truth?
I look forward to reading your responses, if it is the case that you take my questions seriously.
SS
Originally Posted by 4runner
Jesus never said repent...wow!!! That is news to me...What Bible do you read? And when He said go and sin no more He really didnt mean it? Come on dud you can do better than that...I hope?
I guess when He told the man He healed at the pool of Bethesda to go and sin no more less a worse thing come upon Him, He was just playing head games with Him too?
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
Certainly you understand Jesus WAS telling the truth. This was not a scare tactic but truth for the lips of Jesus himself.
Jesus never said repent...wow!!! That is news to me...What Bible do you read? And when He said go and sin no more He really didnt mean it? Come on dud you can do better than that...I hope?
I guess when He told the man He healed at the pool of Bethesda to go and sin no more less a worse thing come upon Him, He was just playing head games with Him too?
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
Certainly you understand Jesus WAS telling the truth. This was not a scare tactic but truth for the lips of Jesus himself.
Some live in this common place of understanding that doesn't take any discernment or any digging into the word as a man of faith. A man of faith would know what Christ was dealing with in this lame man's life. Was there personal sin in this man's life that was responsible for his infirmity or (38) years? Do we know that from any fact in the scriptures or any background into this man's life? Is that the conclusion that we are to come to from Christ statement telling him, 'sin no more less a worse thing come upon thee'? When we hear the word 'sin', are we to always think of personal sin that someone commits? There are sins of o-mission as well as sins of co-mission but we don't even know if personal sin was responsible for his infirmity, we can presume it, but we don't know from the content of the passage.
Your whole point of this argument is to convince others that Jesus was telling this man to repent as well as the adulterous woman. You are not even close to the truth or the heart of God in these matters. All that Jesus was telling both of them was not to get involved with sin because of (Num 32:23) and He imparted through the love of God the wisdom of His grace to both of them so that they could be free from the sin of the flesh and of the sin of unbelief. It's quite simple and quite beautiful when we have discernment based on the right faith that comes from sound doctrine through Jesus Christ and His WORDS.
Your whole point of this argument is to convince others that Jesus was telling this man to repent as well as the adulterous woman. You are not even close to the truth or the heart of God in these matters. All that Jesus was telling both of them was not to get involved with sin because of (Num 32:23) and He imparted through the love of God the wisdom of His grace to both of them so that they could be free from the sin of the flesh and of the sin of unbelief. It's quite simple and quite beautiful when we have discernment based on the right faith that comes from sound doctrine through Jesus Christ and His WORDS.
Thanks for the response 4runner.
Since we both agree that Eve did not know the absolute Truth (evidenced by the quite
perverted response she quoted to the serpent), must it be the case that Adam did not
tell it to her as he was responsible to do, given that he was responsible for the Garden
and all the tree in it, and the Commandment? Consider: it is not subtle to deceive one
who does not know the Truth to begin with, by first telling a perverted one?
Or tell me, why did God leave out the creation of the Host of angels in the Creation
Account (if it is the case that angels are not of humanity), even though HE told us
of the creation of insects? Or, since Satan is the author of Evil, why should God hide
him from us in the Beginning? Or, was it not prophesised that 'That Wicked' (who is the
devil) should be revealed (2Thes).
I hope you do not misunderstand my intentions in asking you these questions, because
i only wish to provoke your mind to thought, even as the Lord has done to mine. And
realize that whether or not one believes Adam is the Devil has no consequence on
one's salvation, but it will enlighten one on many mysteries in the scriptures.
SS
Lue Engle quotes Mike Bickle in Lue's book ''Nasirite DNA''
''Nazitires who are not living with intimacy with the Lord also face the danger of self righteousness when they rejoice in their commentment to the Lord Jesus and not in Jesus Himself. Just like the Pharisee who despised the tax collector, in Luke 18:9, we will admire our own dedication while looking down on that of others. Too often we judge other by their actions, while judging ourselves by our intentions. The heart of those who rejoice in their own stregnth will end up in one of two pitfalls: either arrogance of accomplishment, like this pharisee, or self hatred as an unworthy son. Only embracing the grace of God to us with humility can help us avoid this''
Any question comment or concerns?????????
Anyone except Zone....if you have the uncontrollable urge to post about NAR or dominionism take it to the thread you set up about it...please and thank you
Anyone else have any question, comment, or concerns?????????
''Nazitires who are not living with intimacy with the Lord also face the danger of self righteousness when they rejoice in their commentment to the Lord Jesus and not in Jesus Himself. Just like the Pharisee who despised the tax collector, in Luke 18:9, we will admire our own dedication while looking down on that of others. Too often we judge other by their actions, while judging ourselves by our intentions. The heart of those who rejoice in their own stregnth will end up in one of two pitfalls: either arrogance of accomplishment, like this pharisee, or self hatred as an unworthy son. Only embracing the grace of God to us with humility can help us avoid this''
Any question comment or concerns?????????
Anyone except Zone....if you have the uncontrollable urge to post about NAR or dominionism take it to the thread you set up about it...please and thank you
Anyone else have any question, comment, or concerns?????????
Why do you believe in 'angel creation' apart from man given that the Lord God gave no
account of 'them' in His Testimony of the Creation (Gen1 & 2)? Or which is easier to
believe as truth and not myth: that snakes can talk, or that God can make man to shine
as an angel in the Beginning, such as HE will do for the saints in the End. Is it not
written that GOD requires that which is past (speaking of His Creation), because the
Creation was at one time perfect from its completion? (Eccl)
account of 'them' in His Testimony of the Creation (Gen1 & 2)? Or which is easier to
believe as truth and not myth: that snakes can talk, or that God can make man to shine
as an angel in the Beginning, such as HE will do for the saints in the End. Is it not
written that GOD requires that which is past (speaking of His Creation), because the
Creation was at one time perfect from its completion? (Eccl)
you mean this thread?
that talks about who is really running the NAR and to what end?
okay.
Dominionism and the NAR
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/26897-dominionism-nar.html
that talks about who is really running the NAR and to what end?
okay.
Dominionism and the NAR
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/26897-dominionism-nar.html
Often times when one speaks truth about a matter that the recipent of that truth revealed is not willing to deal with, they become furious that it's been spoken, they will retiliate, or even deny, or turn on the one addressing & bring accusations to divert from dealing with the issue at hand. Until one is teachable, honest with oneself, others, & most of all God, one will stay stuck in a far less place that God intended for them!
The highway of holiness is a lonely road! If and when you decide to walk that road be prepared to receive insult and injury from every angle…friends, relatives, and complete strangers will come out of the woodwork to test your sincerity. Remember this, Jesus was tempted by everything common to man, yet He did not fail. He promised that only we who endure to the end will be saved
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the highway of holiness might be a lonely road
but on the narrow path that leads to Salvation you will never walk alone for you will have the Holy Spirit
lighting each step so that you might not stumble but if you do then God will lift you up
and you might continue on the path and the walk towards the upward call of God.
It is not that WE endure but that GOD keeps us and guides us and leads us and sanctifies us and GOD works His will to perfect us in HIS time and we but follow HIM.
2 Corinthians 1:3-5
New King James Version (NKJV)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also abounds through Christ.
why have you posted on this thread again instead of starting a new one encapsulating your thoughts?
Is this "all about me" thread so important to you?
why did you bring it up again when no one has asked you a question on it for .....two days? do you miss the attention?
but on the narrow path that leads to Salvation you will never walk alone for you will have the Holy Spirit
lighting each step so that you might not stumble but if you do then God will lift you up
and you might continue on the path and the walk towards the upward call of God.
It is not that WE endure but that GOD keeps us and guides us and leads us and sanctifies us and GOD works His will to perfect us in HIS time and we but follow HIM.
2 Corinthians 1:3-5
New King James Version (NKJV)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also abounds through Christ.
why have you posted on this thread again instead of starting a new one encapsulating your thoughts?
Is this "all about me" thread so important to you?
why did you bring it up again when no one has asked you a question on it for .....two days? do you miss the attention?
ANA.
i just finished this mini series, just 3 short ones..
it covers the topic of Led by The Holy Spirit quite beautifully.
Bob covers what the word LED really means, and reveals in the scripture the Holy's Spirit's very powerful and Sovereign role in brining us Home to God.
hope you get a chance to listen (start at the bottom) just check out the program descriptions
Led by the Spirit Radio Broadcasts
[SIZE=+1]Romans 8:12-17; [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Being Led by the Spirit[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, October 25, 2010[/SIZE]
This program shows that being led by the Spirit is about God carrying true believers through adoption as Sons unto ultimate glorification. It is not about mystical revelations, guidance, or elitism.MP3 (duration 00:25:35)
[SIZE=+1]Led by the Spirit, Part 2[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, January 1, 2007[/SIZE]
This program discusses Romans 8:14 showing that all true Christians are led by the Spirit. We refute false elitist interpretations that claim only certain Christians know how to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit.MP3 (duration 00:26:00)
[SIZE=+1]Led by the Spirit, Part 1[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, December 25, 2006[/SIZE]
This program discusses Romans 8:14 in the light of its context in Romans 8. We show that being led by the Spirit means being carried to glory, not "given subjective revelation."MP3 (duration 00:26:00)
THESE SERMONS ARE GREAT COMFORT TO US CHRISTIANS.
z
i just finished this mini series, just 3 short ones..
it covers the topic of Led by The Holy Spirit quite beautifully.
Bob covers what the word LED really means, and reveals in the scripture the Holy's Spirit's very powerful and Sovereign role in brining us Home to God.
hope you get a chance to listen (start at the bottom) just check out the program descriptions
Led by the Spirit Radio Broadcasts
[SIZE=+1]Romans 8:12-17; [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Being Led by the Spirit[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, October 25, 2010[/SIZE]
This program shows that being led by the Spirit is about God carrying true believers through adoption as Sons unto ultimate glorification. It is not about mystical revelations, guidance, or elitism.MP3 (duration 00:25:35)
[SIZE=+1]Led by the Spirit, Part 2[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, January 1, 2007[/SIZE]
This program discusses Romans 8:14 showing that all true Christians are led by the Spirit. We refute false elitist interpretations that claim only certain Christians know how to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit.MP3 (duration 00:26:00)
[SIZE=+1]Led by the Spirit, Part 1[/SIZE]
Presented by Bob DeWaay and Dick Kuffel
[SIZE=-2]Broadcast Monday, December 25, 2006[/SIZE]
This program discusses Romans 8:14 in the light of its context in Romans 8. We show that being led by the Spirit means being carried to glory, not "given subjective revelation."MP3 (duration 00:26:00)
THESE SERMONS ARE GREAT COMFORT TO US CHRISTIANS.
z
Amen sister
Actually It is us we who must endure, although as you say we cannot do it without the guidance of our Lord
Wouldnt you and others ask the same thing is I did open a thread were I could post random thoughts? Wouldnt you say that I simply started a new thread that would be all about me? Arent you just judging to judge, being hypocritical, and not righteous judgment?
Actually It is us we who must endure, although as you say we cannot do it without the guidance of our Lord
Wouldnt you and others ask the same thing is I did open a thread were I could post random thoughts? Wouldnt you say that I simply started a new thread that would be all about me? Arent you just judging to judge, being hypocritical, and not righteous judgment?