The Glasgow razor boy and eternal security

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LOOK at this:

YOU MAKE A DEFINITIVE STATEMENT
Yes I did, here

So Unbelieving Israel who walked for 400 years in unbelief and sin saw God?

Israel saw God while they were slaves of assyria and Babylon

come on man..
He who sins has never seen or known God (1 John 3)

Israel walked with Christ among them, and still did not see him, They crucified him.

What makes you think they were ever saved? How can you be saved if you have never believed?
And you proved me wrong? (which you did not) And now your getting mad?

GET CAUGHT IN SHOWING YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD
and still keep YAPPING!!
Your the one calling the apostle John a liar not me..

And I am not the one Yapping.

I discerned you from word GO.

You make an idiot of yourself and too ignorant to shut up and walk away...

You only have PROVEN ME to be CORRECT!
You do not talk like a christian. Lets see what the mods think about your language.
 
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Going to get me banned because you cannot defeat me using the Word of God?

Showing all your true colors, now, are we?
 
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why should i care if i am banned?
i discerned you, then was able to prove it.
which SHOWS, i do have GOD directing my thoughts, my instincts, my everything.
and that is enough comfort to know, I kept the Side of Truth, and was only banned over someone being pathetic and whining.
 

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It's God's grace to provide warnings and to call out false doctrine for what it is... if I had no copmpassion for others, I wouldn't be spending time try to get others to accept the whole counsel of God. The only ones getting all upset are the ones who have made idols out of john calvin and martin luther who follow men instewad of the teachings of the Lord.

The reason so many are "struggling brethren" is because of false doctrine being taught by all the false teachers telling people they are still saved if the continue in sin.

I'm simply telling people they should REPENT and turn away from their sin rather than saying what the OSAS peoples say which is.,.. "it's not a problem if one still lives in sin because they are still saved" which is a lie from the devil, it's a trick to deceive people to go to hell.

It's too bad that your mind and understanding has been darkened as to not have the ability to understand this. Maybe someday you'll grow up and start accepting the Truth Gospel which tell us to Awake to righteousness, and sin not (1 Corinthians 15:34)

It's too bad that so many don't know that God has provided a way for us to partake in HIS divine nature... but instead, sadly many want to waller around in that old sinful nature and continue sinning everyday in though word and deed. View attachment 258369

2 Peter 1:4
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.


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the lie from the devil is what you say "sin is not a problem"
 

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It's God's grace to provide warnings and to call out false doctrine for what it is... if I had no copmpassion for others, I wouldn't be spending time try to get others to accept the whole counsel of God. The only ones getting all upset are the ones who have made idols out of john calvin and martin luther who follow men instewad of the teachings of the Lord.

The reason so many are "struggling brethren" is because of false doctrine being taught by all the false teachers telling people they are still saved if the continue in sin.

I'm simply telling people they should REPENT and turn away from their sin rather than saying what the OSAS peoples say which is.,.. "it's not a problem if one still lives in sin because they are still saved" which is a lie from the devil, it's a trick to deceive people to go to hell.

It's too bad that your mind and understanding has been darkened as to not have the ability to understand this. Maybe someday you'll grow up and start accepting the Truth Gospel which tell us to Awake to righteousness, and sin not (1 Corinthians 15:34)

It's too bad that so many don't know that God has provided a way for us to partake in HIS divine nature... but instead, sadly many want to waller around in that old sinful nature and continue sinning everyday in though word and deed. View attachment 258369

2 Peter 1:4
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.


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your problem is neither the Lord or his apostles were fixated in the way you are .
 

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OSAS peoples say which is.,.. "it's not a problem if one still lives in sin because they are still saved"
You know this isn't true, yet you continue to lie about it. At this point, you're willfully sinning, something you say you never do. We all know it's not true. You should finally admit it and repent!
 

Fundaamental

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King David taught us in one of his Prayers to ask for Forgiveness of the Sins he is not even aware of and BRING THEM TO HIS MEMORY so he could ask for forgiveness of them.

He gives us a way to Pray that Confesses ALL Sins.
I often wonder if the holy spirit convicts all of God's children each and every time they act as inappropriate,

I wonder if confession really is needed for saved people.

I imagine for unsaved people they would less likely get conviction of the holy spirit, but with saved people I would imagine conviction from the holy spirit would bring about confession.
 
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I often wonder if the holy spirit convicts all of God's children each and every time they act as inappropriate,
depends if you're Abiding in Christ.
I wonder if confession really is needed for saved people.
John encouraged Confession and so did James.
John said Confess to God and James said Confess to one another [he clearly is speaking between like Believers]
I imagine for unsaved people they would less likely get conviction of the holy spirit, but with saved people I would imagine conviction from the holy spirit would bring about confession.
Romans 1 explains them:

19 because that which is known of God is manifest in them, for God has manifested it to them.

20 For his attributes which are invisible, since the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being perceived by the things that are made, both his eternal power and divinity, so that they are without excuse;
 
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I often wonder if the holy spirit convicts all of God's children each and every time they act as inappropriate,
i like this.

you ask for Scriptural proof
you receive you are basically stupid for not seeing it according to a Doctrine, as if, the Doctrine, was greater than the literal Word of God.
meaning, there is no specific Biblical proof.

so, how can you be nice when you're being deceived?

you need to crush it immediately!!
 
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Fundaamental

we know Satan comes to seek and destroy like a roaring lion
so, we know, he will never be truthful to us
we know this.

so, if Satan, comes to us
begins to speak to us
we know his intentions are to DECEIVE us

therefore, do you keep allowing him to Deceive you, or, do you crush his attempt and get rid of him?
 

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Fundaamental

we know Satan comes to seek and destroy like a roaring lion
so, we know, he will never be truthful to us
we know this.

so, if Satan, comes to us
begins to speak to us
we know his intentions are to DECEIVE us

therefore, do you keep allowing him to Deceive you, or, do you crush his attempt and get rid of him?
I just basically ignore my thoughts all together when there is a still quiet voice.

I could get all serious and authoritative with a satan, but theres absolutely no point, I ride the storm every time, and sooner or later the still voice disappears.

The reason why I do this is there's always a suggestion as to how I should respond.

When I ignore the first suggestion, there's always a second and a third and so on, and so on.

The amount of reasoning that takes place to make me follow a suggestion, can get quite good or nasty, and sure enough when I don't let my emotions rule my decisions, befor to long I know with 100 percent certainty that once again a satan is trying to influence my decision making,

I know each and every time a satan is close and I know the instant moment a still voice is not my own.

It's kinda like a silent thought and often it will be centered around not being bothered and a hundred reason not to be bothered.

A hundred reason to start smoking again, which i am not.

Or a hundred reasons to start drinking again which I'm not.

Or a hundred reason to hate someone or something.

Or a hundred attempts to make me feel bad.

Other times it can be a hundred reasons to feel super special followed by why I should be angry at those who don't appreciate me.

Then there's the playing God part and even pretending to be Jesus,

They have had a hold on me once but more often when a satan has managed to get me have a cigarette or a beer, they've seem to have more of hold on me when i have succumbed, but that is not happening anymore.

Beside all this crap I still feel that the holy spirit is there for all believers and knows each and every time you have been made to feel as if your not walking in the spirit. It's a matter of the heart issue at first you feel as if your spinning in the heart or mind, but the spirit knows your thoughts are being manipulated into making you believe there your own thoughts,

So I'm confessing for absolutely nothing.
 

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I just basically ignore my thoughts all together when there is a still quiet voice.

I could get all serious and authoritative with a satan, but theres absolutely no point, I ride the storm every time, and sooner or later the still voice disappears.

The reason why I do this is there's always a suggestion as to how I should respond.

When I ignore the first suggestion, there's always a second and a third and so on, and so on.

The amount of reasoning that takes place to make me follow a suggestion, can get quite good or nasty, and sure enough when I don't let my emotions rule my decisions, befor to long I know with 100 percent certainty that once again a satan is trying to influence my decision making,

I know each and every time a satan is close and I know the instant moment a still voice is not my own.

It's kinda like a silent thought and often it will be centered around not being bothered and a hundred reason not to be bothered.

A hundred reason to start smoking again, which i am not.

Or a hundred reasons to start drinking again which I'm not.

Or a hundred reason to hate someone or something.

Or a hundred attempts to make me feel bad.

Other times it can be a hundred reasons to feel super special followed by why I should be angry at those who don't appreciate me.

Then there's the playing God part and even pretending to be Jesus,

They have had a hold on me once but more often when a satan has managed to get me have a cigarette or a beer, they've seem to have more of hold on me when i have succumbed, but that is not happening anymore.

Beside all this crap I still feel that the holy spirit is there for all believers and knows each and every time you have been made to feel as if your not walking in the spirit. It's a matter of the heart issue at first you feel as if your spinning in the heart or mind, but the spirit knows your thoughts are being manipulated into making you believe there your own thoughts,

So I'm confessing for absolutely nothing.
I am sorry I haven't even read your full post but I absolutely had to express the joy I have in seeing your growth you discernment I think may even surpase mine your growth is such a joy to me I can see you are going to be very stong after God is done grooming you I can only think of steel or iron when I think of you in the future immovable standing in the iron truth of God a rebel a defier or the norm firm in him if I could have one prayer it is that you will be this that I am not just talking out of my butt I want you to be a lion a speaker of truth who easilily bashes agaib the nrom the muddied truth of God unafrad unaffected

Just thinking about it makes my heart if I vould have only one thing I think this is it heck if I have to give my own life so bei it you were meant for such greater things more than you know more than me you will surpase me wait and see I will make it so if I have to
 
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i would think those Preachers would be educating People to ask for Forgiveness of Future Sins at the time of Conversion.

Very few preachers teach correct doctrine... 1 John 1:9 alone proves that all future sins are not pre-forgiven.

When one turns away from the Lord and sins, they must forsake their sin and confess their sin to the Lord in order to be in right standing with the Lord once again according to His Word.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.


1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



Pride says you must do something..

Actually... God's Word teaches us... we must do something!

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Some don't really love the Lord... so they don't want to do anything to be in agreement with the Lord because apparently the are happy with the devil! questioning.gif

The Lord expects His people to DO some stuff after getting born again... in fact, getting born again requires some good work on our part which of course the Lord empowers us to do... but we have to make the decision to either submit to Him or not to submit to him.

Luke 9:23
And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

If it were by faith alone and no action is required on our part... then Jesus would not have said “let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me” in Luke 9:23.

Only living faith saves, since faith without works is dead... faith alone is not saving faith because there's no good fruit being produced by that faith because it is dead as in the person is not acting like their faith is true and real. Folks that believe this are deceived according to James 1:22 which tells us to “doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves”.

God does not accept dead faith as that faith is no better than the devil’s faith! (James 2:19)

1 Corinthians 3:9
For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

Philippians 4:13 tells us "I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me" so this agrees with John 15 that the Lord is the One bearing good fruit thru us IF we are co laborers with the Lord and allow the Holy Spirit to lead us (Romans 8:14) and IF we allow the Holy Spirit to live in us (Romans 8:9)

Matthew 7:18,19
A corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

John 15:2
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Reckon Jesus didn't get the memo from the so called reformers that salvation is by faith only??? (see James 2:14-26)

The Lord says the following thru the Apostle James:

James 2:17
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

James 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

James 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

James 1:21,22
Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness (walking after the flesh – see Gal 6:7,8), and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.


Apparently one is justified by faith AND by works.... and the man that believes justification is by faith only is a "vain" man.

Sounds like either Jesus is wrong or the so called reformers are wrong since they teach an partial truth and leave the part out about works leaving the door open to sinful living (license to sin).

Martin Luther was a known drunk so I can see how he would want to leave the part about works out so he could continue drinking his beloved booze which is living in sin! (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-13)

Quite the quandary here... who shall we say is in error the Lord or the reformers??? That tis the question!


but many sins don't lead to physical death right away. so, it's difficult to hang the tag of spiritual death to them if there's time to Repent.

They are in fact separated from God... until they confess and forsake their sin and turn back to the Lord.

Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.


1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 3:8
He who sins is of the devil


Obviously... those that have sin in their lives are NOT in right standing with the Lord.

The Lord's Word tells us to confess and forsake out sin... but sadly many want to argue in favor of not doing this and instead continue wallering in their sin which is to remain on the highway to hell like a doofus! clueless-doh.gif



Jesus said plainly that a demon couldn't cast out devils, otherwise his kingdom would fall.
Since when did Jesus give such power & authority to a faker, a hypocrite? Judas had his part with them until he let the devil enter into him. It's all there in the Bible.

The OSAS peoples will never admit that Judas was saved and then fell away later... they put their doctrine before the Truth of God's Word... always!

They won't let God's Word get in thew way of what they believe silly.gif
 

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I am sorry I haven't even read your full post but I absolutely had to express the joy I have in seeing your growth you discernment I think may even surpase mine your growth is such a joy to me I can see you are going to be very stong after God is done grooming you I can only think of steel or iron when I think of you in the future immovable standing in the iron truth of God a rebel a defier or the norm firm in him if I could have one prayer it is that you will be this that I am not just talking out of my butt I want you to be a lion a speaker of truth who easilily bashes agaib the nrom the muddied truth of God unafrad unaffected

Just thinking about it makes my heart if I vould have only one thing I think this is it heck if I have to give my own life so bei it you were meant for such greater things more than you know more than me you will surpase me wait and see I will make it so if I have to
I've learnt a lot from your wisdom, to be given this high regard of you is a real confidence boost for me,

but I feel I have long way to go before I reach your level of faith, but you never know I could be the student that Excels the master, 🙂.

i don't think I have gone through as must fire or trials as you have, I don't know if could come through what you have with the measure of faith I have.

I like to believe I could but I'll never know unless I'm faced with a new trial or fire.

No doubt there will be one, but I hope to get stronger, and with friends like you around that shouldnt be to difficult 👍
 

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i like this.

you ask for Scriptural proof
you receive you are basically stupid for not seeing it according to a Doctrine, as if, the Doctrine, was greater than the literal Word of God.
meaning, there is no specific Biblical proof.

so, how can you be nice when you're being deceived?

you need to crush it immediately!!
I'm more compelled to believe its impossible to not abide in Christ when your saved.
 

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I've learnt a lot from your wisdom, to be given this high regard of you is a real confidence boost for me,

but I feel I have long way to go before I reach your level of faith, but you never know I could be the student that Excels the master, 🙂.

i don't think I have gone through as must fire or trials as you have, I don't know if could come through what you have with the measure of faith I have.

I like to believe I could but I'll never know unless I'm faced with a new trial or fire.

No doubt there will be one, but I hope to get stronger, and with friends like you around that shouldnt be to difficult 👍
I apoligize my health has been very bad so I have not been able to come online but trust me you will surpase me, I didn't seek to be strong in him for myself but for his his sake and others the whole point is to make others stronger to pass down what you have so that the recieving end can enhance it
Whatever I have to give I always speak it I don't know how else to be I simply speak my heart but I do so because I have thre beleif that someone reading it would affected or impacted that he would spark something in them
It isn't enough for me to study the word of God I see all this division all this arguing all this self incited belif and understanding and I refuse to accept it.

I often times have self doubt I do not have self confidence I will always blame myself for being in the wrong first so imagine all the things I have said all the prophecies I spoke in confidence that isn't me I am far to self condemning I still cannot see what it is he sees in me yet I did and spoke what I did.

This isn't merely becaise of faith it is because I sought after the real thing how can anyone see this division this interpretation this division in the body of Christ and not chase after the real truth?

I will honestly say once I did this life became nothing but pain despair unfair being TTACKED CALLED DELUSIONAL BY MY OWN FAMILY going through health issues that I could not get help with but at the same time I got to actually know him he actually appeared he actually came into my room that feeling of your body being so worn your spirit being that beaten down and then he shows up and your home your healed you understood as if anything wrong with you doesn't even exist your warm safe home understood loved and endeared just because you are you.

You don't have to be good enough you don't have to try you are amazingly loved to the pooint that your heart sing with his and that is an inmportant thing when your heart sing with him not just to him there are no words to express it it is as if you are singing yhr kingdom itslef the deepest depth of himself soul mind body none if this compares

People discuss debate and study the word of God but how many can say what I have regardless how starnge it sounds how many can truthfully say he appaers in their room that he lives with them that they can speak to him physically as a real person?

This is the kind of relationship with him I have been wanting other to understand and have all the things I have spoken on here I spoke in truth even when I said don't be surprised if I come on here one day and the entire forum is bombarded with his presence
Maybe this all seems unbliblical to other but when I read the words of Jesus I took him at his word I didn't add any interpretatiopn his word is law he said all it takes is the faith of a mustard seed he said the only thing needed ios faith

sure people say in his time or accadoring to his will but that isn't what he said is it? We hardly see miracles we speak of faith yet how much does it actually work? do you see the impossible in our day and age? and yet no one questions why?

In the bdf I have seen conuntless debates but how many can prove what they say to be true? how many can divide their own beleifs and interpretations form the actual truth?

If you cannot full heartly speak of him the way I have then sorry you don't know him you don't know the trtuth your not motivation by the fascination of his person you have not tasted and seen

I can attest there is so so much more to him than ever dreamed but without that hunger without that fascination without that soul shrieking desire from within your being you will never have him fully.
 

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I apoligize my health has been very bad so I have not been able to come online but trust me you will surpase me, I didn't seek to be strong in him for myself but for his his sake and others the whole point is to make others stronger to pass down what you have so that the recieving end can enhance it
Whatever I have to give I always speak it I don't know how else to be I simply speak my heart but I do so because I have thre beleif that someone reading it would affected or impacted that he would spark something in them
It isn't enough for me to study the word of God I see all this division all this arguing all this self incited belif and understanding and I refuse to accept it.

I often times have self doubt I do not have self confidence I will always blame myself for being in the wrong first so imagine all the things I have said all the prophecies I spoke in confidence that isn't me I am far to self condemning I still cannot see what it is he sees in me yet I did and spoke what I did.

This isn't merely becaise of faith it is because I sought after the real thing how can anyone see this division this interpretation this division in the body of Christ and not chase after the real truth?

I will honestly say once I did this life became nothing but pain despair unfair being TTACKED CALLED DELUSIONAL BY MY OWN FAMILY going through health issues that I could not get help with but at the same time I got to actually know him he actually appeared he actually came into my room that feeling of your body being so worn your spirit being that beaten down and then he shows up and your home your healed you understood as if anything wrong with you doesn't even exist your warm safe home understood loved and endeared just because you are you.

You don't have to be good enough you don't have to try you are amazingly loved to the pooint that your heart sing with his and that is an inmportant thing when your heart sing with him not just to him there are no words to express it it is as if you are singing yhr kingdom itslef the deepest depth of himself soul mind body none if this compares

People discuss debate and study the word of God but how many can say what I have regardless how starnge it sounds how many can truthfully say he appaers in their room that he lives with them that they can speak to him physically as a real person?

This is the kind of relationship with him I have been wanting other to understand and have all the things I have spoken on here I spoke in truth even when I said don't be surprised if I come on here one day and the entire forum is bombarded with his presence
Maybe this all seems unbliblical to other but when I read the words of Jesus I took him at his word I didn't add any interpretatiopn his word is law he said all it takes is the faith of a mustard seed he said the only thing needed ios faith

sure people say in his time or accadoring to his will but that isn't what he said is it? We hardly see miracles we speak of faith yet how much does it actually work? do you see the impossible in our day and age? and yet no one questions why?

In the bdf I have seen conuntless debates but how many can prove what they say to be true? how many can divide their own beleifs and interpretations form the actual truth?

If you cannot full heartly speak of him the way I have then sorry you don't know him you don't know the trtuth your not motivation by the fascination of his person you have not tasted and seen

I can attest there is so so much more to him than ever dreamed but without that hunger without that fascination without that soul shrieking desire from within your being you will never have him fully.
life has its up and downs for us all in sone way, others will reject someone's confidence as feeling unworthy, or they can't grasp why they haven't experience what someone else has.

Others will feel inadequate,. Whilst some will be happy for wha God has shown them.

I remember I had this strong inclination to God to go to church one day.

The amazing part was when I got to the church not on time I knocked on the door and all of sudden the door opened.

The funny part was I had already tried the handle and it was locked , so I knocked again tried the handle again, and it opened.

The lady in the church said how did you get in. I said I knocked and the door opened lol.

She said that door is locked when the church starts. I said well is it ok to sit down she said yeah. I said yay.

Anyways i started listening to the sermon. Which had only just started and they where introducing leading ministers pastors and vicars from the four corners of the world, they stayed praying for healing


An That moment I had a major outer body experience, there was a thousand people or so sat in front of me. All them with there back turned to me. But with in the blink of an eye I could see every single person's eyes even tho they had there back turned to me

How was.that possible, at that moment I saw a magenta swirling light come swirling down from the spiral on the ceiling, and it touched every single one of them.

There eyes where all shining like jewels.

I spoke to an African church leader and he said the lord can show people different things to bring about a measure of faith, have you been struggling with your faith


Well yes I was just like you blaming my self for stuff. Not knowing for sure whether God was there for me. I was giving my heart to the lord and crying out to him to show me something to really give me the desire to have strong faith, that day was an eye opener that went onto greater things that the lord showed me. Which I now feel the lord was showing me so much because of much I had been deceived.

People tho are blind to these relationships that can happen to people and never quite understand.
 

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life has its up and downs for us all in sone way, others will reject someone's confidence as feeling unworthy, or they can't grasp why they haven't experience what someone else has.

Others will feel inadequate,. Whilst some will be happy for wha God has shown them.

I remember I had this strong inclination to God to go to church one day.

The amazing part was when I got to the church not on time I knocked on the door and all of sudden the door opened.

The funny part was I had already tried the handle and it was locked , so I knocked again tried the handle again, and it opened.

The lady in the church said how did you get in. I said I knocked and the door opened lol.

She said that door is locked when the church starts. I said well is it ok to sit down she said yeah. I said yay.

Anyways i started listening to the sermon. Which had only just started and they where introducing leading ministers pastors and vicars from the four corners of the world, they stayed praying for healing


An That moment I had a major outer body experience, there was a thousand people or so sat in front of me. All them with there back turned to me. But with in the blink of an eye I could see every single person's eyes even tho they had there back turned to me

How was.that possible, at that moment I saw a magenta swirling light come swirling down from the spiral on the ceiling, and it touched every single one of them.

There eyes where all shining like jewels.

I spoke to an African church leader and he said the lord can show people different things to bring about a measure of faith, have you been struggling with your faith


Well yes I was just like you blaming my self for stuff. Not knowing for sure whether God was there for me. I was giving my heart to the lord and crying out to him to show me something to really give me the desire to have strong faith, that day was an eye opener that went onto greater things that the lord showed me. Which I now feel the lord was showing me so much because of much I had been deceived.

People tho are blind to these relationships that can happen to people and never quite understand.
Reading this has been such a blessing you have understood all I am going through and have found a church where God is active and real those doors should not have opened for you but they did.
I will admit my faith has been a struggle I cannot express all the hell I have gone though as it would take way to many words and I noticed that it all started because I dared to believe I was suddenly attacked by demons appearing in my room I started struggling to afford to eat it was as if life itself or some unseen force had all the control in my life and even reaching out for help I had no one I could rely on I have struggled with all of this on my own because no matter what I try no no matter if I belif or not nothing works out nothing helps I wigh 106 my health has more power it seems than God but I believe not because I see results but because I know him.


I need to be filled up again I cannot deal with all the attacks all the false prophet ACCUSATIONS given to me anymore I am to damaged to worn out. from the very first time I made the first thread on here asking if hge was our Lord or not he never tells me what to write but when he says to do so I have no words or idea what I am to write I just let his words flow. It was not recieved well I was attacked called a falkse prophet called delusional mocked and laughed at but in that time I knew him I had his presence fill my room like a golden thick fog there is so muych more to him than we can imagine aASPECTS of him that cannot be described in words things you could never imagine

All the things I have spoken regardless of people believing it or or not speak from actual experience
if I say he will live with you if I say there is no seperation that he would appear physicially live with and abide in you I am not just saying things I dared to believe even with being attacked and mocked and I tasted the real thing the truth.

I have stated several times how I feel about this division on thge body of Christ the denominations the interpretations of scripture look at the bdf this is not truth it is only debates ionterpretations what the word of God is to each person believing themselves to be true but all we get is division debartes arguments this is not good enough for me there is only one truth not many

even with all the suffering in seeking the actual truth how everything seems to work against me my healkth and being able to afford to eat I speak these thing regardless when I am able I rarely have enough energy or strength to get out of bed and it really started when I dared to go that fdar with him I spoke I endured I took the attacks all the while questioning if I spoke his truth or not as I am very cautious knowing the damage fakse orophets have caused

But it seems the more I am inclined to shower what I have seen and known of him the more life my health everything attacks me and it has gotten to the point where I have basically given up I am to exhuasted to beaten to worn out to many attacks I am drained to self abusive what if I was just all talk what if I really was a false prophet? I said all I did so that other could know him in a way that we as the body of Christ have seemed to forgotten.
I spoke of the impossible and was called delusional is this what faith is? we talk and debate of the word of God yet you don't see it come alive you don't see him say it opnly takes faith of a mustard seed

for me if he himself says something I take him at his word no interpretation no ADDING IN HIS TIME WHYICH HAS NEVER EVEN BEn spoken in scripture I believe what he says it doesn't matter what I think or what I think he is saying if says this that is what it is.


But
i won't lie my health my finiancial situation my ability to simply have a decent life has all gone out the window I won't make it as it is I am always attacked or held back from the enemy and I cannot do this on my own anymore if God doesn't intervene if he doesn't take control I will die and all that I did here on Christian chat while not recieved at first I left it to him to water and grow every seed given even if what I spoke reached one heart but all of it would be for nothing and I was just another false prophet

if that is the case the amount of shame and guilt would stick with me and destroy me I would never be able to trust hearing from him again I only know to speak my heart he has always used this aspect of me I don't consider what I think is truth I don't take in doctrine if he places something on m,y heart to speak I obey but this is a forggoten thing people are to in to the doctrine that is what they base everything on not him it is about the knowledge of scripture npt the knowledge of the God who created the universe with a spoken word.

I may not be able to get the help I need my body may continue to suffer I may be stuck with all I have to deal with but I have tasted and seen and I am not after any ordinary bond or relationship with him I will find him and when said one time don't be surprised if I come on here one day and his presence floods the entire forum I wasn't kidding.

I want everyone to really know him to be bewildered and astonished of who he is there is so so much more but people have to drop their vices stop trying to und3erstand on your own beliefs and interpretation stop confirming to the norm the sytem is abvious division arguments seperation all because of denominations and doctrines interpretation this is not truth it is the devil he knows more than anyone that to win a war you divide confuse and conquor The thing is I have spoken all of this but how many actually consider what is being said? how many want to refuse to accept anything less than him? it seems like a hobby to people where is the fascination the intuige the wonder of himself that makes us go beyond the norm?
 

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Reading this has been such a blessing you have understood all I am going through and have found a church where God is active and real those doors should not have opened for you but they did.
I will admit my faith has been a struggle I cannot express all the hell I have gone though as it would take way to many words and I noticed that it all started because I dared to believe I was suddenly attacked by demons appearing in my room I started struggling to afford to eat it was as if life itself or some unseen force had all the control in my life and even reaching out for help I had no one I could rely on I have struggled with all of this on my own because no matter what I try no no matter if I belif or not nothing works out nothing helps I wigh 106 my health has more power it seems than God but I believe not because I see results but because I know him.


I need to be filled up again I cannot deal with all the attacks all the false prophet ACCUSATIONS given to me anymore I am to damaged to worn out. from the very first time I made the first thread on here asking if hge was our Lord or not he never tells me what to write but when he says to do so I have no words or idea what I am to write I just let his words flow. It was not recieved well I was attacked called a falkse prophet called delusional mocked and laughed at but in that time I knew him I had his presence fill my room like a golden thick fog there is so muych more to him than we can imagine aASPECTS of him that cannot be described in words things you could never imagine

All the things I have spoken regardless of people believing it or or not speak from actual experience
if I say he will live with you if I say there is no seperation that he would appear physicially live with and abide in you I am not just saying things I dared to believe even with being attacked and mocked and I tasted the real thing the truth.

I have stated several times how I feel about this division on thge body of Christ the denominations the interpretations of scripture look at the bdf this is not truth it is only debates ionterpretations what the word of God is to each person believing themselves to be true but all we get is division debartes arguments this is not good enough for me there is only one truth not many

even with all the suffering in seeking the actual truth how everything seems to work against me my healkth and being able to afford to eat I speak these thing regardless when I am able I rarely have enough energy or strength to get out of bed and it really started when I dared to go that fdar with him I spoke I endured I took the attacks all the while questioning if I spoke his truth or not as I am very cautious knowing the damage fakse orophets have caused

But it seems the more I am inclined to shower what I have seen and known of him the more life my health everything attacks me and it has gotten to the point where I have basically given up I am to exhuasted to beaten to worn out to many attacks I am drained to self abusive what if I was just all talk what if I really was a false prophet? I said all I did so that other could know him in a way that we as the body of Christ have seemed to forgotten.
I spoke of the impossible and was called delusional is this what faith is? we talk and debate of the word of God yet you don't see it come alive you don't see him say it opnly takes faith of a mustard seed

for me if he himself says something I take him at his word no interpretation no ADDING IN HIS TIME WHYICH HAS NEVER EVEN BEn spoken in scripture I believe what he says it doesn't matter what I think or what I think he is saying if says this that is what it is.


But
i won't lie my health my finiancial situation my ability to simply have a decent life has all gone out the window I won't make it as it is I am always attacked or held back from the enemy and I cannot do this on my own anymore if God doesn't intervene if he doesn't take control I will die and all that I did here on Christian chat while not recieved at first I left it to him to water and grow every seed given even if what I spoke reached one heart but all of it would be for nothing and I was just another false prophet

if that is the case the amount of shame and guilt would stick with me and destroy me I would never be able to trust hearing from him again I only know to speak my heart he has always used this aspect of me I don't consider what I think is truth I don't take in doctrine if he places something on m,y heart to speak I obey but this is a forggoten thing people are to in to the doctrine that is what they base everything on not him it is about the knowledge of scripture npt the knowledge of the God who created the universe with a spoken word.

I may not be able to get the help I need my body may continue to suffer I may be stuck with all I have to deal with but I have tasted and seen and I am not after any ordinary bond or relationship with him I will find him and when said one time don't be surprised if I come on here one day and his presence floods the entire forum I wasn't kidding.

I want everyone to really know him to be bewildered and astonished of who he is there is so so much more but people have to drop their vices stop trying to und3erstand on your own beliefs and interpretation stop confirming to the norm the sytem is abvious division arguments seperation all because of denominations and doctrines interpretation this is not truth it is the devil he knows more than anyone that to win a war you divide confuse and conquor The thing is I have spoken all of this but how many actually consider what is being said? how many want to refuse to accept anything less than him? it seems like a hobby to people where is the fascination the intuige the wonder of himself that makes us go beyond the norm?

Thats a very low weight blain 106 pounds is only 7 and a half stone,

I do hope you start eat better soon,

Pm me mate we will talk more in private. I may be able to help

I would only concern yourself with what the good things have been said to you here bro.