Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Joe Biden complaining that he is being treated like a baby in the Whitehouse

THIS IS PRICELESS


Why in a WSJ poll 2/3rds of Democrats think Joe Biden is too old to run

(on the flip side he needs to be president so he can pardon Hunter and everyone else caught in the corruption otherwise they may flip on him)

It is quite amazing to me how proud KJP is of a president that everyone else seems to feel has failed.
 
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‘Enormous Amount Of Evidence’: Jonathan Turley Says Joe Biden’s Connection To His Son’s ‘Corruption’ Is ‘Impeachable’

Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley stated Sunday that President Joe Biden’s connection to his son, Hunter Biden’s, “corruption” is cause for impeachment given the “enormous amount of evidence.”

https://dailycaller.com/2023/12/17/...hunter-biden-corruption-evidence-impeachment/

The "knives" are out for Biden (metaphorically speaking)
 
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https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/why-are-so-many-orthodox-jews-voting-for-trump-analysis-647681

Why are so many Orthodox Jews voting for Trump? - analysis
Enthusiasm for Trump amongst Orthodox communities and leaders is high and vocal.

By JEREMY SHARONNOVEMBER 1, 2020 22:29

How US Jews identify religiously can also, to a great extent, show how they will vote in the presidential election, with the AJC poll showing that 74% of Orthodox Jews support Trump, compared to between 20% to 23% of non-Orthodox Jews.
 
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"I want to wish everyone a very happy Hanukkah."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732910211289989423

"I want to wish everyone a very happy Hanukkah. The miracle of Hanukkah began more than 2,000 years ago when a proud band of Jewish patriots courageously stood up and reclaim their freedom, their faith and their traditions from an oppressive tyrant," Trump said.

"After that great victory, the Jewish heroes prepared to rededicate the Holy Temple, but found only enough oil to light the lamp for one night. Yet by the grace of the Almighty. The flames radiated for eight days and eight nights. Ever since, the Menorah has been a symbol of Jewish perseverance in the face of oppression, and of God's hope, mercy and love in times of hardship."

Trump added that this Hanukkah season, Jewish Americans and people all over the world are "still reeling from the monstrous Hamas terror attacks on innocent men, women and children," on October 7.

"To everyone touched by these barbaric atrocities we pray that God will bring you healing comfort and peace. We recommit ourselves to extinguishing the evil of antisemitism from the Earth," Trump said.
 
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It's not that simple. it is true that some of them are simply in a personality cult but there are many people with different reasons they support him including some or all of the following:

1. Racial resentment (They'll deny this to their grave).
2. Hatred of "liberals" (how they define a liberal will vary depending on how right wing said person is).
3. Cultural resentment (They want the country to go back to a fictional 1950's version that never existed in the first place)
4. Hatred of Washington (Honestly, who can blame them)
5. Pride. (They voted for the guy and he turned out to be the first class screw up everyone said he would, but they'd rather burn the house down then admit they were wrong)
6. Religious authoritarianism. (They want to force the rest of the country to live according to their "Christian" values whether they want it or not)

For them Donald Trump is their weapon, and they know full well who he really is.
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Chris Christi is also correct by saying that Trump is "dog whistling" which is a political term that means that only certain listeners would recognize it(only dogs can hear the dog whistle's frequency)... Now so in the comment's Trump has made from Saturday about "poisoning the blood" which he repeated on Truth Social ect. and also on Sunday in Nevada when he laid out his immigration plan much like with the dog whistle only certain groups would hear who he quoted(Aryans,KKK,ect) because they recognize it from things they read. Well then again there are some(Jews) who were victims of the man Trump is quoting which is Adolph Hitler who said it in Mein Kanph, chapter 11(Jewish people would also remember it being said about them) https://www.ou.edu/englhale/meinkampf.html
 
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Chris Christi is also correct by saying that Trump is "dog whistling" which is a political term that means that only certain listeners would recognize it(only dogs can hear the dog whistle's frequency)... Now so in the comment's Trump has made from Saturday about "poisoning the blood" which he repeated on Truth Social ect. and also on Sunday in Nevada when he laid out his immigration plan much like with the dog whistle only certain groups would hear who he quoted(Aryans,KKK,ect) because they recognize it from things they read. Well then again there are some(Jews) who were victims of the man Trump is quoting which is Adolph Hitler who said it in Mein Kanph, chapter 11(Jewish people would also remember it being said about them) https://www.ou.edu/englhale/meinkampf.html
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I don't think Trump is smart enough to dog whistle.

I met Donald Trump in 2015, I don't know if he had announced his campaign yet.

I was 18 and had just gotten married. At the time I was a full time professional model. We were at Trump tower between shoots and he flirted with us quite aggressively. I remember how gross we felt... none us were older then 20 and this 65ish year old man is flirting. I thought he was a creep and it definitely coloured my opinion of him even before all the awful things he said/did.

I'm fairly "coservative", at least by the traditional and rational definition of the word, but I'd never support such a horrible human being.

I don't think people need to be perfect but certain values to me are non-negotiable.
 
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I don't think Trump is smart enough to dog whistle.

I met Donald Trump in 2015, I don't know if he had announced his campaign yet.

I was 18 and had just gotten married. At the time I was a full time professional model. We were at Trump tower between shoots and he flirted with us quite aggressively. I remember how gross we felt... none us were older then 20 and this 65ish year old man is flirting. I thought he was a creep and it definitely coloured my opinion of him even before all the awful things he said/did.

I'm fairly "coservative", at least by the traditional and rational definition of the word, but I'd never support such a horrible human being.

I don't think people need to be perfect but certain values to me are non-negotiable.
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His supporters aren't even creeped out about comments he has made about his own biological daughter. Perhaps they feel similarly towards their daughters and find it normal? :unsure::unsure::unsure: I give Trump credit for many things he did that were great when he was president but have criticized him when it was appropriate as well. You'll notice in real life, and on this forum, if you are objective and give praise when it's due and criticize when it is warranted, his cult followers will attack you and think you're a Biden supporter by default. Just giving you the heads up since you're new.
 
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His supporters aren't even creeped out about comments he has made about his own biological daughter. Perhaps they feel similarly towards their daughters and find it normal? :unsure::unsure::unsure: I give Trump credit for many things he did that were great when he was president but have criticized him when it was appropriate as well. You'll notice in real life, and on this forum, if you are objective and give praise when it's due and criticize when it is warranted, his cult followers will attack you and think you're a Biden supporter by default. Just giving you the heads up since you're new.
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ZNP has a part time job attacking me and being incredibly wrong about Judaism, all because I very mildly criticized Trump's followers. I'm already well aware.
 
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ZNP has a part time job attacking me and being incredibly wrong about Judaism, all because I very mildly criticized Trump's followers. I'm already well aware.
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Baloney, show me the post where I have attacked you. Delusional.
 
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PANIC! Obama BACKSTABS Biden, Tells Democrats ‘Joe Will LOSE!’ 2024 As Trump SURGES In Polls

 
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The right to abortion is simply a pretense to play God. To play God that is blasphemy, a horrific sin. Yet the people who do this will try to justify themselves as morally superior to others. Being absolute in refusing to say that the murder of an innocent is not OK does not make you a cult member, rather the cult behavior is from those who justify this vile practice and then point the finger at others with all kinds of insults.
 
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.I don't agree with what Trump said, but I do agree with him having the right to his own opinion and I do like the fact that he is honest about how he feels, even if I disagree with him.
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I agree that he has a right to express his feelings whether they are good or bad to someone else BUT what I don’t like Is having someone like THAT say that a war hero Is a loser and still voting him to be the moral leader of the people of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICANS.I don’t get SO many people having SUCH a low moral compass when It comes to who will represent AMERICA.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
I agree that he has a right to express his feelings whether they are good or bad to someone else BUT what I don’t like Is having someone like THAT say that a war hero Is a loser and still voting him to be the moral leader of the people of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICANS.I don’t get SO many people having SUCH a low moral compass when It comes to who will represent AMERICA.
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Presidents of the US have not been moral leaders since Abraham Lincoln. Don't know what you are talking about. LBJ? That would be like having Macbeth as a moral leader. Nixon? Crooked Dick, no way. Ronald Reagan -- a movie star, he can play the part well, doesn't make it so. Bill Clinton? I would rather have him focus on defining the word "is" first. Obama? Maybe if you are a muslim. Joe Biden? Now we have gone from Macbeth to King Lear. Where do you come up with this stuff?
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
I agree that he has a right to express his feelings whether they are good or bad to someone else BUT what I don’t like Is having someone like THAT say that a war hero Is a loser and still voting him to be the moral leader of the people of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICANS.I don’t get SO many people having SUCH a low moral compass when It comes to who will represent AMERICA.
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The bar has been set so low. And while McCain was a war hero, he was also a traitor to both his party and his country.
Benedict Arnold was once a brilliant military leader before he betrayed this nation. How is he remembered?
 
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You know I was thinking about how terrible Trump is and then saw this latest news story on Newsmax about a sex scandal at the Whitehouse, the report was so graphic I can't even post it on this forum, it would violate our rules. So we have cocaine and sex orgies and sex videotapes being made at the Whitehouse and Capital building and yet the people who voted for that are complaining about Trump.

I don't doubt he is a bad man, but anyone who is putting up with the Biden administration and Democrats while complaining about him is a hypocrite.
 
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You know I was thinking about how terrible Trump is and then saw this latest news story on Newsmax about a sex scandal at the Whitehouse, the report was so graphic I can't even post it on this forum, it would violate our rules. So we have cocaine and sex orgies and sex videotapes being made at the Whitehouse and Capital building and yet the people who voted for that are complaining about Trump.

I don't doubt he is a bad man, but anyone who is putting up with the Biden administration and Democrats while complaining about him is a hypocrite.
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I don't see many putting up with Biden though. Not only are people here not in support of him, but even many Democrats aren't supporting him in recent polls.

You are correct though. There are lots of hypocrites. Stating murder and stealing is a sin, but then suddenly acting oblivious if it's a sin to murder a Palestinian and/or steal their house if they are a non-Jew living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.
 
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I don't see many putting up with Biden though. Not only are people here not in support of him, but even many Democrats aren't supporting him in recent polls.

You are correct though. There are lots of hypocrites. Stating murder and stealing is a sin, but then suddenly acting oblivious if it's a sin to murder a Palestinian and/or steal their house if they are a non-Jew living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.
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Just today we had people talking about what a terrible person Trump is.

It just comes across as a stupid joke when you look at what is going on today at the Whitehouse and the Capital building. Isn't the evil for today sufficient, why are we worried about eleven months from now? The way things are going we probably will not even have an election.

Iran hits us with a small cyberattack but very threatening. We respond a day or two later with a massive cyberattack knocking out 70% of the gas stations. We are not heading to a peace agreement, we are heading to all out war. I would think we see Iran's response this week and it will be a major escalation over the last cyber attack.
 
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I don't see many putting up with Biden though. Not only are people here not in support of him, but even many Democrats aren't supporting him in recent polls.

You are correct though. There are lots of hypocrites. Stating murder and stealing is a sin, but then suddenly acting oblivious if it's a sin to murder a Palestinian and/or steal their house if they are a non-Jew living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.
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I honestly think he will squeak by, People are voting against Trump not for Joe Biden who is quite loathed by many Democratic voters. I read in the news that he still might drop out due to the horrendous polling.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
Click—->I factcheck It,what you said Is F A L S E<—-Click
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No it's not.
He lied to Republican voters when he voted to keep Obamacare. And he lied to the American public when he brought the Russian dossier back from Europe claiming Trump colluded with the Russians. He was a RINO which meant he misrepresented himself constantly.
He was a charter member of the swamp and detested Trump because he was and is a threat to the status quo in Washington.
You can think he was a good guy if you want. I think he was everything you believe Trump is and more. I actually met McCain in South Carolina during his presidential campaign. He was a very rude and arrogant man.
 
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