Where does the justification for The New Testament doers of the law in Romans 2:13 originate from?

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HumbleBee

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turbosixx said:
What law are you talking about. Paul is talking about the law of Moses.
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Romans 2:11-15
11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For whosoever have sinned without the law, shall perish without the law; and whosoever have sinned in the law, shall be judged by the law. 13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature those things that are of the law; these having not the law are a law to themselves: 15 Who shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness to them, and their thoughts between themselves accusing, or also defending one another,
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I am a doer of The New Testament Law; The doers of the law shall be justified.
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NightTwister said:
I'm mocking false gods.
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Romans 2:11-15
11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For whosoever have sinned without the law, shall perish without the law; and whosoever have sinned in the law, shall be judged by the law. 13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature those things that are of the law; these having not the law are a law to themselves: 15 Who shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness to them, and their thoughts between themselves accusing, or also defending one another,
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Thunderrr-mental

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HumbleBee said:
This is a Biblical recording.
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humble come on son I know you mean well, this conversation has now turned into an insulting match they don't want to hear and all there now doing is rejecting God's word, you know that's not Good right.
 
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Even though it is true that doers of the law are justified by the law, there is no one justified other than Jesus that was actually justified by the law so, you are a hearer of the law only, because you failed to do it, and you can't use Jesus as an excuse for a "do over." On the other hand, I'm a doer of the word (the promise). That is, I believe it! And receive my inheritance without the requirement to do the law, the avenue you'd rather take to obtain your inheritance, which only ONE has ever done.

For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God freely granted it to Abraham through a promise.-Galatians 3:18
 
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Mem said:
Even though it is true that doers of the law are justified by the law, there is no one justified other than Jesus that was actually justified by the law so, you are a hearer of the law only, because you failed to do it, and you can't use Jesus as an excuse for a "do over." On the other hand, I'm a doer of the word (the promise). That is, I believe it! And receive my inheritance without the requirement to do the law, the avenue you'd rather take to obtain your inheritance, which only ONE has ever done.

For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God freely granted it to Abraham through a promise.-Galatians 3:18
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James 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
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Your assertion that the law and the promise are the same is misleading.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
humble come on son I know you mean well, this conversation has now turned into an insulting match they don't want to hear and all there now doing is rejecting God's word, you know that's not Good right.
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It is not very surprising that they are rejecting God's word.
 
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you cannot lead if you do not know the way.
 
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