Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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I have not spent much time in this area of this site. My assumption of one rule means it applies to every area. I guess from now on I will read the rules for every area here. Either way, I am able to maintain the general rule. It makes me wonder why others cannot.
Changing gears a little, the pandemic was a major political topic for these last four years. It had a big role in both the Trump presidency and the Biden presidency.

Have you considered that any correlation with Lazarus being sick and dying and Jesus delaying four days before coming to raise him up?
 

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Changing gears a little, the pandemic was a major political topic for these last four years. It had a big role in both the Trump presidency and the Biden presidency.

Have you considered that any correlation with Lazarus being sick and dying and Jesus delaying four days before coming to raise him up?
Are you saying that Lazarus dying was Trump, and Lazarus coming back to life is Biden?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I apologize. I thought there was one standard rule. Be my guest and rip me a new one :)

Hahahhh no sir, I respect cops too much. Nor do I think I am capable of "ripping you" anything. I'm picturing you're about my hubby's size and I know when I'm out of my league. Hey I get people don't like Trump. I don't hate people who don't vote for him. But the Dems have gone so far radical, I couldn't vote for them either. We need a lot more Christians to run!

So let's start again. Hey you're a cop, maybe you could get people to stay on topic. I never started a thread that would. :rolleyes: No harm no foul. Christmas rush has me with one nerve left. If I jumped too hard I apologize. Blessings.
 
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Changing gears a little, the pandemic was a major political topic for these last four years. It had a big role in both the Trump presidency and the Biden presidency.

Have you considered that any correlation with Lazarus being sick and dying and Jesus delaying four days before coming to raise him up?
You know, this baffled me a bit here. The claim was this covid was some virus from hundred thousand years ago and now it was released by eating bats and snakes. But the biggest belief system in the world is Evolution and Natural Selection. If these theories are true, a preventive cure for humanity should already exist within us. And yet we are dying here. Which made it easier to conclude this was a "plandemic." The problem with covid, the wealthy and world leaders would unanimously have to be behind it in agreement. I no longer trust both Trump and Biden because of it.
 

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Are you saying that Lazarus dying was Trump, and Lazarus coming back to life is Biden?
Nope.

I would see Lazarus as a third of the believers of the Lord, a lot of people got sick. Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead was a key step on His going up to Jerusalem and it is the reason they greeted him with the Palm branches saying "Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest."

Many have shared that Mary, Martha and Lazarus depict the church. You have the ones serving, the ones loving, and the sick and dead ones who are testifying of the resurrection.
 
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Hahahhh no sir, I respect cops too much. Nor do I think I am capable of "ripping you" anything. I'm picturing you're about my hubby's size and I know when I'm out of my league. Hey I get people don't like Trump. I don't hate people who don't vote for him. But the Dems have gone so far radical, I couldn't vote for them either. We need a lot more Christians to run!

So let's start again. Hey you're a cop, maybe you could get people to stay on topic. I never started a thread that would. :rolleyes: No harm no foul. Christmas rush has me with one nerve left. If I jumped too hard I apologize. Blessings.
Not saying I hate Trump. I voted for him. I just think there has to be a real Christian running and think I would like to vote for them. And I wish and hope You a very merry Christmas to You and Yours :)
 

ZNP

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You know, this baffled me a bit here. The claim was this covid was some virus from hundred thousand years ago and now it was released by eating bats and snakes. But the biggest belief system in the world is Evolution and Natural Selection. If these theories are true, a preventive cure for humanity should already exist within us. And yet we are dying here. Which made it easier to conclude this was a "plandemic." The problem with covid, the wealthy and world leaders would unanimously have to be behind it in agreement. I no longer trust both Trump and Biden because of it.
I think the jury is still out on Trump but definitely think that both Biden and Harris have been convicted based on their response and hypocrisy concerning the vaccine.

Either Trump was a useful idiot or was involved, at this point I lean towards useful idiot because they always limit how many people they let in on their satanic plots. For Trump there was no need to know, simply encourage him to do all in his power to green light it and you know during an election year he would.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Not saying I hate Trump. I voted for him. I just think there has to be a real Christian running and think I would like to vote for them.
I personally liked Huckabee but I don't know if he will run again. I don't really see anyone running that I would vote for. I don't dislike De Santis, just something isn't clicking with him. I don't know why. We were at a rally with Franklin Graham and he said Christians need to start running for office. Even if it's just the school board or city council. I agree. If we want to see that, more people need to run. It really could put the country in a better direction.
 

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President Trump made Iran’s nuclear program go from zero to sixty in one speech.
Trump did nothing to increase Iran's desire to obtain nuclear weapons. This is the result of Islam's desire to destroy Israel.
He also did nothing to allow more resources to be available to Iran to develop nukes. He did the opposite.
Words can lead to actions on other's part. But they do not assist in accomplishing those actions. And since nothing Trump said changed Iran's plans or helped them accomplish them, his speech changed nothing.
 

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Not saying I hate Trump. I voted for him. I just think there has to be a real Christian running and think I would like to vote for them. And I wish and hope You a very merry Christmas to You and Yours :)
Which of the other three Republican candidates are you thinking about? I think Nikki Haley was destroyed in the last debate, she is a Neo Con and been completely exposed as a fraud. I think Desantis is not president material, if he were elected it would be the Peter principal of promoting people until they are past their competency level. As for Vivek Ramaswamy I don't think he is ready to be president. I could see him having a role in a Trump administration and building a resume.
 
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I think the jury is still out on Trump but definitely think that both Biden and Harris have been convicted based on their response and hypocrisy concerning the vaccine.

Either Trump was a useful idiot or was involved, at this point I lean towards useful idiot because they always limit how many people they let in on their satanic plots. For Trump there was no need to know, simply encourage him to do all in his power to green light it and you know during an election year he would.
Trump supported the Democratic Party going back to Carter. He even said if he ever ran for office he would choose Republican because their idiots. I believe he knows way more than we think. But he has loose lips and I think that is why he is so opposed.
 

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Trump did nothing to increase Iran's desire to obtain nuclear weapons. This is the result of Islam's desire to destroy Israel.
He also did nothing to allow more resources to be available to Iran to develop nukes. He did the opposite.
Words can lead to actions on other's part. But they do not assist in accomplishing those actions. And since nothing Trump said changed Iran's plans or helped them accomplish them, his speech changed nothing.
We’ll just have to disagree on this one.
 

ZNP

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Trump supported the Democratic Party going back to Carter. He even said if he ever ran for office he would choose Republican because their idiots. I believe he knows way more than we think. But he has loose lips and I think that is why he is so opposed.
Definitely agree with all that. Trump tower is clearly and undeniably a temple to Baal. He has flashed Freemason hand signals. I have compared him to a mob boss but from a different family than Clinton, Biden and Obama.

I have also compared him to Jehu in the OT who slew Jezebel.

I have also compared him to the jawbone of an ass that Samson (Jesus) used to slay 3,000 philistines.

And you can also compare him to Cyrus.

None of these people or things would be considered positive examples for Christians. But they are examples of the Lord using people and things to accomplish His will.
 
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Which of the other three Republican candidates are you thinking about?
I know Disney and that crowd hate Desantis. He has fought their agenda and has many victories over them. If he did that nationwide. Churches might stop integrating abominations into Shepherds over their flock.
 

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I personally liked Huckabee but I don't know if he will run again. I don't really see anyone running that I would vote for. I don't dislike De Santis, just something isn't clicking with him. I don't know why. We were at a rally with Franklin Graham and he said Christians need to start running for office. Even if it's just the school board or city council. I agree. If we want to see that, more people need to run. It really could put the country in a better direction.
I agree. Ron de Santis is a boring administrator who flips some laws and thinks the rest of the country is tenants living in his basement.
 
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I personally liked Huckabee but I don't know if he will run again. I don't really see anyone running that I would vote for. I don't dislike De Santis, just something isn't clicking with him. I don't know why. We were at a rally with Franklin Graham and he said Christians need to start running for office. Even if it's just the school board or city council. I agree. If we want to see that, more people need to run. It really could put the country in a better direction.
I would vote for huck in a heartbeat.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I agree. Ron de Santis is a boring administrator who flips some laws and thinks the rest of the country is tenants living in his basement.
It's disappointing when I try to watch the debates. I can't even hear what they are saying. I just gave up. It's no good to worry, I know it's in God's hands. Sometimes I wish he'd just give us a quick preview now and then.