Angel can just mean messenger.
how does that impact those scriptures that are showing the vast difference in Jesus and angels ?
“hath in these last days
spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed
heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
who being the
brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins,
sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath
by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
For
unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And
let all the angels of God worship him.
And
of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. And,
Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; And the heavens are the works of thine hands:
But
to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Are they not
all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:2-8, 10, 13-14 KJV
I don’t see how arguing angel could
Mean messenger impacts any of what it’s saying about angels and the son of God who became a man not an angel Jesus is the lord made flesh he’s never been an angel he became a man
“For verily
he took not on him the nature of angels;
but
he took on him the seed of Abraham.”
Hebrews 2:16 KJV
But brother I don’t dispute that angels are heavenly messengers that’s really clear in the Bible and that’s what I’m saying about the law the word is coming from this ordination as soon as they worshipped the calf everything changed that’s what Stephen is explaining in acts chapter 7 of course people don’t want to read it because it’s “ wordy “ they say it’s also relevant and clear
“
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.”
Exodus 23:20-21 KJV
now to be clear here brother and relevant to what your saying is the next sentence
“But
if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak;
then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.”
Exodus 23:22 KJV
Understand I’m not saying that the law isn’t of God ….I’m saying this happened as Moses was in the cloud receiving the commandments ….
“And
they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands. Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; ( angels ) as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye
house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices By the space of forty years in the wilderness
? ( he’s asking the question have you been worshipping me all this time ?)
( then he answers) Yea,
ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, And the star of your god Remphan, Figures which ye made to worship them: And I will carry you away
beyond Babylon….
( so what I’m gettin at is when you read the words of Moses in the law you are getting that disposition Hod warned then about )
who have
received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.”
Acts 7:41-43, 53 KJV
so…this
Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.”
(He says
he will not pardon your transgressions my authority is in him )
now look at the law look at what the dispostion is upon e writhing in it
“And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.”
Numbers 15:32, 35-36 KJV
“And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you. And if a man shall lie with his uncle's wife, he hath uncovered his uncle's nakedness: they shall bear their sin; they shall die childless. And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless. Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, spue you not out.”
Leviticus 20:10, 12-14, 20-
Brother Jesus wasn’t an Angel the Bible clearly tells us he created angels and men and heaven and earth he’s the lord manifest in the flesh is all I’m saying the angels were given rule over Israel when they broke the commandment the very first thing he commanded them they broke as he was writing the commandments then as stephens says there
Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven;
The whole law came from God
it’s a different ordination for a different purpose and people it isn’t Christianity it’s prophetic pertaining to Christianity though a witness of it
the gospel is where our faith is that’s all I’m saying remeber brother a third of the angels followed satans rebellion ……and will inherit eternal damnation with him also with people who follow him as well even Satan is a messenger the messenger of our covenant was Jesus our lord and God
“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And
we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:19-20 KJV
There’s a different ordination over the law of Moses and he’s the mediator Moses .
The Gospel is God the Father presenting his word in the Son and promising believers his holy spirit will come to live within and be with them
The ot is this
“Wherefore then serveth
the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made;
and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.”
Galatians 3:19 KJV
It’s why you see all the references to contrast the old and new
“Therefore
we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
For
if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; ( the ot law )
how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the
first began to be spoken by the Lord, ( the gospel of the kingdom ) and was
confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will? ( acts of the apostles )
For unto
the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.”
Hebrews 2:1-5
The law wasn’t meant to save souls ….it’s meant to condemn sinners and make them were they need a savior need salvstion
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