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Lanolin

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There's plenty of worry warts that need curing, but the cure for a wart, apparently, is to chill it.
freeze it, liquid nitrogen...or use garlic. Never had a wart though.

Isnt it it like it like hardened pimple? pimples or acne can be the result of stress.
 

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work isnt always synonomous with marketing or commerce.

I guess some people like to think so esp grocers daughters like Margaret Thatcher.

But I guess you can always sell out. Its not always bad thing to sell out if you desperate enough to survive, but you will gain the world and lose your soul. Its just the price you need to pay for living in the world.
 

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I was thinking of groceries since many peoples lives revolve around obtaining them, and what would happen if the essential workers had stopped working during lockdowns. People would starve, there would be rioting in the streets etc.

Or if they became unaffordable. Which they are for some. Well now theres secerity cameras in most of them and there have been assaults from hangry or mentally ill people. In nz its basically a duopoly between two supermarket chains, one nz owned and one australian/internationally owned recently bought out by woolworths. Both pay minimum wage and I dont know where their profits go...they can restrict supply no matter what the demand is. It is quite different from farmers markets which is direct from growers to customer.

Somebody is making a lot of money esp if they are price gouging. Theres good things about them and they do some things for communities but they can also be a racket. They also sell a lot of things people just dont need even though people buy them mostly packaged and laced with dubious chemicals now.
 

Lanolin

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people leave other countries for a better life but may need to leave their families behind and thats the sad thing about immigration...separated families, and I suppose the emotional cost esp for children (who cant work) and elderly (too old)

though it may be better or easier these days because of global connectedness...online and aeroplanes and more roads and cars but still its sort of like being in exile from your roots/homeland.

By the rivers of Babylon we sat down, and wept when we rememebered Zion. Why do Israelites return to Israel when theres political animosity...well for them its home. Or why dont the palestinians leave, for many of them they considered it home living there for generations.

It wasnt easy to be a wandering Jew all the time.
 

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I saw another article today about families who don't want to leave their house or wealth to their kids.
A bunch of absurd reasons involving taxes or whatever. Leave your house to anybody except your children.
 

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this brings to mind line from a song my dad would sing out at times, "...he's not heavy, he's my brother."
It was from a song that created during the circumstances surrounding the Vietnam conflict.
(sigh) Pruning hooks and plowshares would be a welcome sight any day now.
 

Lanolin

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this brings to mind line from a song my dad would sing out at times, "...he's not heavy, he's my brother."
It was from a song that created during the circumstances surrounding the Vietnam conflict.
(sigh) Pruning hooks and plowshares would be a welcome sight any day now.
secateurs and lawnmowers...have them already

dont you work in the garden? But then gardening is not considered 'work' cos its just what people would do normally anyway.
 

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this brings to mind line from a song my dad would sing out at times, "...he's not heavy, he's my brother."
It was from a song that created during the circumstances surrounding the Vietnam conflict.
(sigh) Pruning hooks and plowshares would be a welcome sight any day now.
Yeah, but that won't be feasible until Jesus returns. When the young goat doesn't have any reason to fear the leopard (Isaiah 11) it will be safe to do that.

Until then, as one man said, those who have beaten their swords into plowshares will do the plowing for those who have not. :cry:

dont you work in the garden? But then gardening is not considered 'work' cos its just what people would do normally anyway.
Gardening is w*rk to me, because that is not my default method of having fun in my free time.
 

Lanolin

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Jacob was the one that stayed home, Esau went off to hunt..
The prodigal son left to spend his fortune on riotous living, his brother stayed at home

this little piggy went to market, this little piggy stayed home.

Where was home...home where your family is or is home where you spend most of your time? I worked in a shop part-time in a mall and the owner/shopkeeper was there most all the time running the shop...but he lived in a rental close by, however, was there in the shop most hours of the day he really only went 'home' to sleep.

His first wife left him probably because he was away working all the time, his now partner is the one who works with him in the shop and they both live together. The mall was open late nights until 9pm, he could have just slept in the back office to open up the shop again at 9 in the morning.

What is the ideal work-life balance? Some men spend all their lives working, maybe even in another country and make their fortune and only ever see their family in the school holidays. Or is it 9-5 thats ideal? anyone been a latch-key kid? Or did your parents work shifts like ships in the night.
 

Mem

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secateurs and lawnmowers...have them already

dont you work in the garden? But then gardening is not considered 'work' cos its just what people would do normally anyway.
Yeah, but that won't be feasible until Jesus returns. When the young goat doesn't have any reason to fear the leopard (Isaiah 11) it will be safe to do that.

Until then, as one man said, those who have beaten their swords into plowshares will do the plowing for those who have not. :cry:


Gardening is w*rk to me, because that is not my default method of having fun in my free time.
I think of gardening as the same as artwork. I don't know if it's actually fun but if you do it well enough, it will procure interest in others. Raising my kids in a less fortunate community, and successfully against the odds I might add (God my help, of course) I soon grew tired of them coming in from play displaying rashes from retrieving their balls that rolled into nearby neglected fences, I came to a Scarlet O'Hara moment and said, "I shall nev'ah go itchy again!" and attacked the hordes of poison ivy. It ended with me looking like a red-bellied salamander when it was over but that was that. Then I waged war on the overgrown pine trees and bushes that was base for the armies of creepy crawlies that'd rather besiege they and all their playmates' heads and make camp. I took dominion and conquered that bit of land, supposing that the landlord had no object if I wasn't actually destroying the property as much as I was improving it (and indeed he sent a thank you letter, to me and the neighbors that picked up pruning clippers and joined in on the effort). So, I didn't just "do-ed it" I subdued it. :p

It is said that 'home is where your heart is' so, if my heart is wherever I am, then wherever I am should feel like home.
 

Lanolin

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I think of gardening as the same as artwork. I don't know if it's actually fun but if you do it well enough, it will procure interest in others. Raising my kids in a less fortunate community, and successfully against the odds I might add (God my help, of course) I soon grew tired of them coming in from play displaying rashes from retrieving their balls that rolled into nearby neglected fences, I came to a Scarlet O'Hara moment and said, "I shall nev'ah go itchy again!" and attacked the hordes of poison ivy. It ended with me looking like a red-bellied salamander when it was over but that was that. Then I waged war on the overgrown pine trees and bushes that was base for the armies of creepy crawlies that'd rather besiege they and all their playmates' heads and make camp. I took dominion and conquered that bit of land, supposing that the landlord had no object if I wasn't actually destroying the property as much as I was improving it (and indeed he sent a thank you letter, to me and the neighbors that picked up pruning clippers and joined in on the effort). So, I didn't just "do-ed it" I subdued it. :p
if home is where your heart is, then where is work...some other organ? Your hands?
It is said that 'home is where your heart is' so, if my heart is wherever I am, then wherever I am should feel like home.
 

Lanolin

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Opp sorry reply function eats up my replies.

I was going to say

If home is where your heart is....where is work? Where your hands are? Or some other internal organ. Or your soul.
 

Lanolin

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Being a creative does mean you need to work, but work creatively. Artists are a strange breed because what they do is not often considered work, even though they create artWORKs.

Being an artist means you need to be able to support yourelf with your art and if nobody is buying then it becomes hard to make a living. Many artists apply for grants or have rich patrons. But there is danger in that kind of life, not to mention a lot of suffering. esp if you live for your art.
 

Mem

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Opp sorry reply function eats up my replies.

I was going to say

If home is where your heart is....where is work? Where your hands are? Or some other internal organ. Or your soul.
good question! hmm...
Work is where your feet are? Where your back is? Maybe yes. They always say, "put your back into it," but sometimes they say, "lift with your legs not your back," or "put your shoulder into it,"... hmm...
 

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Opp sorry reply function eats up my replies.

I was going to say

If home is where your heart is....where is work? Where your hands are? Or some other internal organ. Or your soul.
W*rk is where my wallet is.
 

Lanolin

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good question! hmm...
Work is where your feet are? Where your back is? Maybe yes. They always say, "put your back into it," but sometimes they say, "lift with your legs not your back," or "put your shoulder into it,"... hmm...
elbows...use elbow grease

Or maybe back..back breaking work

Or..home is where the homework/housework is
 

Mem

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elbows...use elbow grease

Or maybe back..back breaking work

Or..home is where the homework/housework is
Or put your nose to the grindstone, though that sounds a bit painful.

Or the brow. I think it might be work is where your sweat is.

By the sweat of your brow... and Jesus sweat great drops of blood. He did a mighty work, the hardest anyone ever did, carrying the whole world...
 

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maybe work is where the gym is because people 'workout' at the gym

Cant believe that people would pay to go there, shouldnt the gym be paying you? lol
 

Lanolin

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John 5:17

Thing is Jesus didnt stay at home, he went out to work as all men did in those days

But women seem expected to stay at home. Though men maybe dont realise how boring it can be for women, especially when they just take off and leave them by themselves or with toddlers, all the housework and nobody to talk to.

I suppose you make of it what you will and might depend on where you live as well?

The workplace isnt always camaderie for women as well because it can competitive, bullying (esp if working in a school! ) or harassing for women to go out to work among men, even in the 21st century.

Its hard to change attitudes that are so established, and dispiriting to try and change your own to a 'dont care, Im just doing a job, head is down, dont rock the boat, soul sucking robot of the industry' either.

Im just wondering if there actually is a 'better life' for anyone or is this what its like the world over no matter where you are. People go where the work is or where you can actually have your own home, but where exactly would that be...land and homes only become available at certain times, its not like anyones in the pioneer stage frontier land grab thing anymore.
 

Lynx

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maybe work is where the gym is because people 'workout' at the gym

Cant believe that people would pay to go there, shouldnt the gym be paying you? lol
Depends... Are all the exercise machines connected to electric generators? If enough people exercised enough it might turn enough profit to give its members a kickback.