Daniel and Matthews abomination of desolation.

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This is a difficult subject to explain. If you have questions, ask.
Daniel wrote the following when he was in his nineties and while serving in Persian under King Darius. In the last chapter of his book, he wrote, Daniel 12:11, “From the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.”

The comma between “taken away,” and “the abomination that makes desolate” tells us one event will immediately follow the other.

Nebuchadnezzar caused the daily sacrifice to cease when he took the sacred vessels of the temple to Babylon in 598 B.C., see 2 Chronicles 36. Now, if we were speaking of days after the daily sacrifice ceased, what significant event followed 1290 days after 598? I could not find anything, so let’s set that idea aside.

The context of Daniel’s prophesy points to an extended period, like 1290 years. If you examine Chapter 12 closely, the context speaks clearly of years, not 24-hour days. I will post another Tread concerning the Hebrew word “Day, Days,” we can discuss that later.

Daniel speaks of a time of trouble in verse 1, such as “never was or will be.” Matthew 24:21-22 gives the same warning. Their statements would eliminate the wars the family of Antiochus, the Romans, Catholics, the Ottomans, and Muslims waged against Israel. They all pale against the backdrop of World War Two and Hitler’s atrocities. Therefore, Matthew 24 could not have been fulfilled as destructive as it was in A.D. 70, as some claim; it doesn’t agree with Scripture.

In verse 4, Daniel said knowledge would increase. In 1945, the rate of knowledge doubled to twenty-five years. Today, with computer technology, it’s every twelve hours. There has been an exponential increase in medicine, communications, computer science, exploration of the universe, and, sad to say, weapons of war.

Daniel was told he would die, verse 9, and that many would be purified. Considering these things, Daniel’s prophesy looks way out into the future, not days, weeks, or months, but years and centuries.

Let’s talk about the Dome of the Rock, also called the Qubbat al-Sakhrah shrine. David purchased a piece of land at the top of Mt. Moriah for the “House of the Lord” around 973 B.C. The rock the Al-Sakhrah shrine sits over is the natural crown of Mt. Moriah. This foundation stone is sixty feet across and rises six feet above the floor. Thus, the temple is called the Dome of the Rock, or Dome over the Rock.

There is where the Holy of Holies once stood; it’s the holiest place for the Jews. It’s said to be where God created Adam and the site Abraham prepared to sacrifice his son, Isaac. It’s the place where Jesus Christ will establish his throne. It is also the third holiest place for Muslims and the only righteous place for Jews. Today, only Muslims and Palestinians are granted access to the mosque.

So, here’s our timeline: B.C. 598, the daily sacrifice ends precisely 1290 years later, and the Dome of the Rock is finished in 692 A.D., matching Daniel’s prophesy.

Now, let’s talk about Matthew’s “abomination. We must compare Matthew 24:15, and Mark 13:14, with Daniel’s prophesy. “When you (the Jews), therefore, shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,” Mark 13:14 reads, “Standing where it ought not,” the people are told to RUN, leave as fast as you can to the mountains. Daniel tells us another 1335 years will pass before Matthew's prophesy is fulfilled.

From 692 A.D. plus 1335 years, we arrive in 2027 A.D. The month will be October, around the 10th to 18th, during the celebration of Yom Kippur on October 10, 2027, and ends 10-18-27. The time also agrees with Jesus’ baptism on October 27 A.D., exactly 2000 years later.

Concerning these two verses, the Greek word for stand, found in Matthew and Mark, is opposed to falling. It’s a Past Particle expressing a completed action, and absolute. In other verses, the same words ‘stood or standing) are found in the following.

Matthew 12:46, “his brother stood without.”

Luke 9:27, “There are some standing here,”

Luke 17:12, “which stood afar off:’

Two abominations, two separate events, 1335 years apart. The Dome of the Rock is where the antichrist will establish his throne; and an image of himself will stand in the court outside his temple.

He will claim to be God, he’s a liar. And he will claim to be standing in the temple of God, he’s a liar. If the above is correct, the 3 1/2 years of Great Tribulation will begin the two witnesses are taken up, and when his high priest heals his deadly wound, then receives his mark, 666.
 

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A few thoughts on this, can be found Here
 

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IMO the 1290 and 1335 numbers listed in Danel 12 are the number of days into the 7 year Tribulation.

1290 days speaks clearly of the Abomination that causes Desolation after the antichrist takes his seat in the temple on Day 1260--2 Thess.2.

The Blessed Day is the Resurrection/ Rapture that takes place on the 1335th day at the reaping of the earth in Rev 14:14-15, 75 days after the antichrist takes his seat in the Temple.
 

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Actually the dome of the rock sits inside the old fortress Antonia, And is not, as generally thought, the holy place.

that was found a few years ago south and lower than the dome. In the old city.

@VCO has a great thread concerning this here third-temple-news in which I learned alot about this. I know it is a huge thread. but well worth the read if you get a chance. Sadly alot of the videos are no longer tagged. But there is some good stuff in there

Other than that. Amen.. The man of sin will stand in the holy place. and the world will see (TV news)
 

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IMO the 1290 and 1335 numbers listed in Danel 12 are the number of days into the 7 year Tribulation.

1290 days speaks clearly of the Abomination that causes Desolation after the antichrist takes his seat in the temple on Day 1260--2 Thess.2.

The Blessed Day is the Resurrection/ Rapture that takes place on the 1335th day at the reaping of the earth in Rev 14:14-15, 75 days after the antichrist takes his seat in the Temple.
1290 days speaks clearly of the Abomination that causes Desolation after the antichrist takes his seat in the temple on Day 1260--2 Thess.2.

Nice to meet you Omegatime. My question, What temple would that be?
 

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Actually the dome of the rock sits inside the old fortress Antonia, And is not, as generally thought, the holy place.

that was found a few years ago south and lower than the dome. In the old city.

@VCO has a great thread concerning this here third-temple-news in which I learned alot about this. I know it is a huge thread. but well worth the read if you get a chance. Sadly alot of the videos are no longer tagged. But there is some good stuff in there

Other than that. Amen.. The man of sin will stand in the holy place. and the world will see (TV news)
Actually, the dome of the rock sits inside the old fortress Antonia, and is not, as generally thought, the holy place. That was found a few years ago south and lower than the dome. In the old city.

Here's the problem the way I see it. David purchased that whole area at the top of Mt. Moriah, not just where the holy place was. He paid 600 shekels of gold, that would be at least 600,000 dollars in today's money. Solomon's temple was massive and had massive courtyards for Jews and for Gentiles to attend on the Holy days. The whole top of Mt. Moriah is sacred and belongs to the LORD.
 

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1290 days speaks clearly of the Abomination that causes Desolation after the antichrist takes his seat in the temple on Day 1260--2 Thess.2.

Nice to meet you Omegatime. My question, What temple would that be?
Must be in Jerusalem, wouldn't surprise me if the jews already knows where it is going--38 acres there
 

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But most disturbing of all how does someone who will become the antichrist replace America?? Appears like America has gone the way of Rome. Civil war, world war - the possibilities are endless unless Israel just falls out of favor with America?
 

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Actually, the dome of the rock sits inside the old fortress Antonia, and is not, as generally thought, the holy place. That was found a few years ago south and lower than the dome. In the old city.

Here's the problem the way I see it. David purchased that whole area at the top of Mt. Moriah, not just where the holy place was. He paid 600 shekels of gold, that would be at least 600,000 dollars in today's money. Solomon's temple was massive and had massive courtyards for Jews and for Gentiles to attend on the Holy days. The whole top of Mt. Moriah is sacred and belongs to the LORD.
Yes I know all of that

The area he purchased was a flat area, again they found this area, and the springs south of the wall.

Josephus was there after the city was raised. And he said the only thing standing was the old fortress Antonia.. which stool above the temple mount where the temple used to be..

The dome is inside of that fortress..
 

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But most disturbing of all how does someone who will become the antichrist replace America?? Appears like America has gone the way of Rome. Civil war, world war - the possibilities are endless unless Israel just falls out of favor with America?
The European continent, if they get together, would have one of the largest armies, the largest Banks, and one of the largest populations.

Remember the antichrist comes from Rome (Europe)

so it fits.
 

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Agreed, but will it be the dome of the Rock, or a new one built by Jews?
 

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Wont be the Mosque, couldn't imagine
The antichrist that is to sit in it will claim to be God, that's a lie.
He will also claim to be sitting in the temple of God, another lie.
Why because if he is the Assyrian Isaiah speaks of, he will be a Muslim, and no Muslim would ever sit in a Temple built by Jews. When Israel gave the Palestinians the land, they tore up the fields, orchards, and houses before they moved in.
 

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But most disturbing of all how does someone who will become the antichrist replace America?? Appears like America has gone the way of Rome. Civil war, world war - the possibilities are endless unless Israel just falls out of favor with America?
Christians are the America the far left is trying to throw into the lion's den. Once Christian America is gone, Israel will have only one way out, Jesus Christ.
 

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Must be in Jerusalem, wouldn't surprise me if the jews already knows where it is going--38 acres there
Sorry, Jews are not going to build a third temple. Even if they did, do you think the antichrist if Muslim would ever sit in a temple constructed with Jew hands? I personally doubt it.
 

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Sorry, Jews are not going to build a third temple. Even if they did, do you think the antichrist if Muslim would ever sit in a temple constructed with Jew hands? I personally doubt it.
The antichrist will be a jew from the tribe of Dan and leap from Bashan and the temple will be rebuilt at the blessing of the antichrist