Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[ThereRoseaLamb]

last time i checked, a staple of a dictatorship is telling the people that they can only vote for the dictator.

who is trying to take trump off ballots??

is that happening, or no??

Yeah, talk about your election interference. If they believe they are going to win by a landslide, why these dictator tactics.

 

[ZNP]

Nikki Haley has a solution to our economic crisis. She wants to take money from the "entitlements". See how this works. They tell you they want to take money out of your paycheck every two weeks, invest it and then when you retire you will have a retirement savings. But once they do that no longer is it your retirement savings that you worked for the last forty years or more taking some out each paycheck, it is their money and they are being "generous" in giving you any.

 

[Cameron143]

Nikki Haley has a solution to our economic crisis. She wants to take money from the "entitlements". See how this works. They tell you they want to take money out of your paycheck every two weeks, invest it and then when you retire you will have a retirement savings. But once they do that no longer is it your retirement savings that you worked for the last forty years or more taking some out each paycheck, it is their money and they are being "generous" in giving you any.

Actually, the money was never invested. By law, it couldn't be. The money always just went into the general fund.

 

[ZNP]

Actually, the money was never invested. By law, it couldn't be. The money always just went into the general fund.

Imagine if they had used it to buy gold. The US would be the largest holder of gold, the price of gold would have skyrocketed, easily $4,000 per ounce or higher by now, it would have outperformed every single investment from the time we went off the gold standard, Social Security would be solvent and BRICS would not be able to take down the US dollar because Americans would hold more gold than the rest of the world combined.

This is the problem with democracy, it makes it easy for crooks to come in and rob people blind. They had laws that SS could not be invested, why didn't they have laws that the US government couldn't borrow the money and replace it with IOUs? SS began when the dollar was on the gold standard, once we went off the gold standard why not have a law that SS would be used to purchase gold? They aren't stupid, they are thieves, that is why.

 

[Cameron143]

Imagine if they had used it to buy gold. The US would be the largest holder of gold, the price of gold would have skyrocketed, easily $4,000 per ounce or higher by now, it would have outperformed every single investment from the time we went off the gold standard, Social Security would be solvent and BRICS would not be able to take down the US dollar because Americans would hold more gold than the rest of the world combined.

This is the problem with democracy, it makes it easy for crooks to come in and rob people blind. They had laws that SS could not be invested, why didn't they have laws that the US government couldn't borrow the money and replace it with IOUs? SS began when the dollar was on the gold standard, once we went off the gold standard why not have a law that SS would be used to purchase gold? They aren't stupid, they are thieves, that is why.

I don't disagree with your conclusions. SS was sold to the American people as insurance, and it was always a lie. That was the point I was making.

 

[ZNP]

I don't disagree with your conclusions. SS was sold to the American people as insurance, and it was always a lie. That was the point I was making.

The point I'm making is that is why Democracy is a poor system. Too easy for clever crooks to rob you blind.

 

[Cameron143]

The point I'm making is that is why Democracy is a poor system. Too easy for clever crooks to rob you blind.

Democracy is the worst form of government...besides all the others. What it actually shows is the need to be diligent in keeping it. All that is required is to incentivize good behavior more than poor behavior.

 

[ZNP]

Democracy is the worst form of government...besides all the others. What it actually shows is the need to be diligent in keeping it. All that is required is to incentivize good behavior more than poor behavior.

No, not in a world that is filled with sinners. If you want to compare the US system of government to the seven churches in Revelation it is Laodicea.

 

[Cameron143]

No, not in a world that is filled with sinners. If you want to compare the US system of government to the seven churches in Revelation it is Laodicea.

I disagree. Things could get cleared up quickly if the Spirit is poured out afresh. And as I don't view government as a church so I wouldn't make the leap you have.

 

[ZNP]

I disagree. Things could get cleared up quickly if the Spirit is poured out afresh. And as I don't view government as a church so I wouldn't make the leap you have.

Well I believe 6,000 years of human history is on my side.

Laodicea indicates a church ruled by the laity, ie a democracy.

 

[ZNP]

This is a good time to reflect on how empathetic and compassionate Joe Biden is. Feb 3 we had a train derailment in E. Palestine, Ohio. Joe Biden has been very busy and so it is understandable that he would not have time to visit them seeing as he has a week vacation in St. Croix, a vacation in Camp David, vaction in Reno, Lake Tahoe, S. Carolina, and just so many trips to Delaware it is hard to keep track. Just know if catastrophe happens to you like it did to the people of East Palestine or in Maui that Joe Biden will show you the same care and compassion he has shown them.

 

[Cameron143]

Well I believe 6,000 years of human history is on my side.

Laodicea indicates a church ruled by the laity, ie a democracy.

The church is under the authority of Christ. The churches listed in Revelation were actual churches. They may be representative of churches at any given time throughout history, but I don't see where they are representative of government.

 

[true_believer]

This is a good time to reflect on how empathetic and compassionate Joe Biden is. Feb 3 we had a train derailment in E. Palestine, Ohio. Joe Biden has been very busy and so it is understandable that he would not have time to visit them seeing as he has a week vacation in St. Croix, a vacation in Camp David, vaction in Reno, Lake Tahoe, S. Carolina, and just so many trips to Delaware it is hard to keep track. Just know if catastrophe happens to you like it did to the people of East Palestine or in Maui that Joe Biden will show you the same care and compassion he has shown them.

I don't think Trump would have made a gesture like this...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-labels-buffalo-shooting-dom

 

[ZNP]

I don't think Trump would have made a gesture like this...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-labels-buffalo-shooting-dom

That page is not available, a gesture like what?

 

[ZNP]

This is how Democrats protect democracy in the US

In an attempt to protect "democracy" the AG in Maine has decided based on her dislike of Trump to remove him from ballot in Maine. After all if she doesn't like him there is no reason why anyone else in Maine should be able to vote for him.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EcltPqCAQQ4

 

[ZNP]

This is a good time to reflect on how empathetic and compassionate Joe Biden is. Feb 3 we had a train derailment in E. Palestine, Ohio. Joe Biden has been very busy and so it is understandable that he would not have time to visit them seeing as he has a week vacation in St. Croix, a vacation in Camp David, vaction in Reno, Lake Tahoe, S. Carolina, and just so many trips to Delaware it is hard to keep track. Just know if catastrophe happens to you like it did to the people of East Palestine or in Maui that Joe Biden will show you the same care and compassion he has shown them.

Is Joe Biden too busy to visit East Palestine?

Joe Biden Takes 418th Vacation Day since Becoming President

https://www.dailyfetched.com/joe-biden-takes-418th-vacation-day-since-becoming-president/

 

[ZNP]

This is how Democrats protect democracy in the US

In an attempt to protect "democracy" the AG in Maine has decided based on her dislike of Trump to remove him from ballot in Maine. After all if she doesn't like him there is no reason why anyone else in Maine should be able to vote for him.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EcltPqCAQQ4

Good news!

Despite being a virulent leftist and supporter of Joe Biden that had nothing to do with Maine AG's decision to remove Trump from the ballot.

 

[Sculpt]

I agree it wasn't enough. But Arizona, Georgia, Michigan were also in play and had voting irregularities.

I don't support Biden over Trump. But what you stated is vague and merely innuendo.

It's illogical to believe that if they went to such great lengths to cheat in one state, they didn't also do so in others.

Vague innuendo doesn't change anything.

Anyone who believes Biden running from his basement got more votes than Obama is simply straining the limits of veracity.

I have no trouble believing more voters came out to vote against Trump in 2020... I listened to them face-to-face every day. A little birdie told me Obama was going to win over John McCain and Sarah Palin. That Obama election had 9.4 million less votes than then prior Bush/Kerry election. Innuendo doesn't spotlight truth.

And Trump set a record for number of votes by an incumbent President. What really are the chances that Democrats made up for the votes he took from them and got another 10 million people to vote for Biden? You seem like a reasonable person. Why doesn't this strike you as odd?

Yes, it's odd. Still, only 66.1% of eligible voters bothered to vote in that election, up from 59.2%, and 2008 had 62.5%. You know how hyper political the country has become since 2015. Surprising, but it's not evidence of fraud.

At the same time, Democrats have weaponized government agencies and used tax dollars to pay tech companies to limit free speech and control news narratives.

I know Biden Admin was active in that. It's the best reason to vote against the Biden Admin.

Did you watch the coverage of the last 2 elections? At around 10 pm both times, results stopped being reported, polls shut down, and results were not continued until the next day. In both cases, Trump had significant leads in swing states. In 2016, Trump's leads dwindled, but remained. In 2020, even larger leads were turned into deficits. And none of this resonates with you? I'm amazed by that.

Trump told people not to vote by mail-in-ballot, and the Democrat party pushed it. That the vast majority of those mail-in-votes were for Biden is merely logical.

Your innuendos about fraud are reasons to competently research the specific details, report the hard facts and push to fix specific problems, otherwise they're just innuendos that prove nothing and merely preaches to the choir.

 

[Sculpt]

so, it's o k to fudge deadlines as long as it does not directly effect anything.

got it.

Who said it was ok? I'm just stating the relevant facts, I'm not passing a moral judgement on it. The US Supreme Court ruled to count mail-in-ballots that were post-marked by Nov 3. It's a relatively conservative court. I don't know the details of why they ruled that way, but it didn't change the result. What do you plan to do about it?

 

[Magenta]

even if they wanted to, they would never do it, it would cause their woke, a lot of nones ( as in do not practice any religions) to lose their minds!!

I did not hear it myself, but my closest sister (who is a born again Christian) was telling me about King Charles' Christmas speech. Some think of him as a bit on the "woke" side? All in for a new world order and all that. And she thought he would gloss over the real reason for the season, but apparently, he did not. (I did just listen to the video message now, before posting it.)