Should artificial intelligence be allowed to evolve

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Should artificial intelligence be allowed to evolve

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • No

    Votes: 11 68.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No I have My reasons why they shouldn't

    Votes: 2 12.5%

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Gideon300

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Who cares if it is sentient. It can do the job better, faster, cheaper and safer than 80% of the world's workers, then it will replace 80% of the world's workers. They have tested numerous systems in 2023 and now CEOs are saying they plan on maximizing the use of AI in 2024. Tens of thousands of people are being laid off or will be laid off.
Yep, and businesses will have no customers to buy their products that the robots produce. So the end of advanced economies as we know them today.
 

Underwhosewings

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Who cares if it is sentient. It can do the job better, faster, cheaper and safer than 80% of the world's workers, then it will replace 80% of the world's workers. They have tested numerous systems in 2023 and now CEOs are saying they plan on maximizing the use of AI in 2024. Tens of thousands of people are being laid off or will be laid off.
That sounds like 80% labour camps or building pyramids.
 

notmyown

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Some surgeries are already done with robots anyway because they're more precise. They are guided by humans of course but the fine, thin-hair operations are done by the robot once programmed.
but there's an actual HUMAN surgical team there superintending the process, isn't there? is that what you mean by guided by humans? a team ready to step in should something go wrong, and do what the robot cannot?
 

ZNP

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making bricks without straw comes to mind...
This explains the illogical vaccine mandates, the lockdowns, the concentration camps, etc. It was clear governments were preparing for massive civil unrest, but why? Now we know why.
 

notmyown

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This explains the illogical vaccine mandates, the lockdowns, the concentration camps, etc. It was clear governments were preparing for massive civil unrest, but why? Now we know why.
i tend to agree with you about the desires of some people. i take comfort in the fact they can only do what Almighty God will let them do, to serve His own purposes and plans.
 

ZNP

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The strategy they are deploying here is the same as the general strategy of Go, to expand one's territory.
 
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Since when has a human endeavour/invention/philosophy/political system/social system/ been 100% beneficial? Do you really want a robot making life or death decisions for you? How do you stop a medical robot from being programmed to kill you if it decides that keeping you alive is not worthwhile? You think that can't happen? Robots are programmed by fallible human beings. How do you get a second opinion from a robot with a scalpel?
🙂. That would be in the disclaimer and you would have an insurance policy attached to it

The other side of it would be a pension policy 🙂. You buy the robot with extra security should you have any medical issues. It's kinda like taking a health care insurance policy program to a whole new level, with a mortgage policy attached to it,.
 

ZNP

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There is a fundamental difference between all previous inventions in the industrial revolution and the tech revolution and AI.

In previous inventions they always made it so humans could carry more, move faster, be more powerful, do more, etc. Whether it is a train, or an elevator, or an airplane, or a computer. Whatever the invention humans were always part of the equation.

But with AI humans are no longer part of the equation. The goal is to replace a human operator with a computerized, programmed operator that can work independently of human intervention.

Trains replaced horses, combines replaced oxen, telegraph replaced carrier pigeons, every invention replaces something. But in the case of AI they are replacing humans.
 

Eli1

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but there's an actual HUMAN surgical team there superintending the process, isn't there? is that what you mean by guided by humans? a team ready to step in should something go wrong, and do what the robot cannot?
Of course there's an actual human. There will always be an actual human because a truly sentient and self-aware program doesn't exist.
There are experienced doctors in the background doing this work and the reason they use a machine is because a machine is more precise. A human hand may move 1 millimeter during an operation but a robot is steady and can be guided to move half a millimeter on the left or on the right.
This also makes surgery better because experienced doctors around the world can guide this machine via the internet.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Wow! Alpha Code2 performs better than 90% of competitive coders solving complex abstract problems.

Based on that I would assume there is no point in hiring coders out of college anymore. Which would you rather have, someone who scored slightly better than this but will work 40 hours a week instead of 160 and need benefits, medical and all the rest. Not only so but the Alpha Code2 is going to be improving exponentially, so your top notch coder who is slightly better this year will not be better next year.

Gemini ultra outperforms 90% of adults on massive multitask language understanding.

How many of us are going to do this to share the Gospel?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Since when has a human endeavour/invention/philosophy/political system/social system/ been 100% beneficial? Do you really want a robot making life or death decisions for you? How do you stop a medical robot from being programmed to kill you if it decides that keeping you alive is not worthwhile? You think that can't happen? Robots are programmed by fallible human beings. How do you get a second opinion from a robot with a scalpel?
Auto Correct and Self Checkout computers are ALWAYS correct and never lead to frustrating experiences.

OK folks discuss surgery and letting computers run YOUR life instead of using them as another tool in the box.
 

ZNP

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How many of us are going to do this to share the Gospel?
I have already heard of pastors and staff at churches that are using it. If you do that you cut Jesus out of the equation. We are supposed to be praying and listening to the Lord lead us, not let some computer program come up with our "word from God".
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I have already heard of pastors and staff at churches that are using it. If you do that you cut Jesus out of the equation. We are supposed to be praying and listening to the Lord lead us, not let some computer program come up with our "word from God".
Many denominations already send pastors sermon outlines and the Sunday school lessons. There already is a light load as far as study and preparing from the Word.

However, I'm not against using technology for getting out the gospel and Word. You can see the gospel presentations to some of our foreign language visitors get native speaker presentations when I think it will help. The AI on the other hand is tech that will more likely destroy lives than help. Now to think about it, it's much better to have a native speaker of a language than a Goober translate. That doesn't mean that it should not be used when there's no better option.
I'd rather get someone saved with that tool than leave them to die and go to hell for lack of communication.
 
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but should it be allowed to.
You cannot stop it!

Even if we cap it in the US, other countries will develop it and end up being far more technologically advanced than we are.

In fact, that's how all this will eventually play out because the globalists need the US to be demoted to third world nation status so they can bring forth the one world government and it's one world leader the anti-christ

And sadly the democrats and some republicans will happily get money stuffed in their pocket to make this happen.

To these professional politicians, money comes before country so they are sell outs!

It's actually already happening!
 
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Of course there's an actual human. There will always be an actual human because a truly sentient and self-aware program doesn't exist.
There are experienced doctors in the background doing this work and the reason they use a machine is because a machine is more precise. A human hand may move 1 millimeter during an operation but a robot is steady and can be guided to move half a millimeter on the left or on the right.
This also makes surgery better because experienced doctors around the world can guide this machine via the internet.
it was not just surgical operations attached to cyBorgs it was also genetic decoding to identify illnesses and correct them,
 

Eli1

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it was not just surgical operations attached to cyBorgs it was also genetic decoding to identify illnesses and correct them,
I don't understand what you're saying here. Can you explain a bit more?
 

Eli1

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This is great news! They even saved that boy's life by using this super fast method. Do you have any objections to this?

To achieve super-fast sequencing speeds, the researchers needed new hardware. So Ashley contacted colleagues at Oxford Nanopore Technologies who had built a machine composed of 48 sequencing units known as flow cells. The idea was to sequence just one person’s genome using all flow cells simultaneously. The mega-machine approach was a success — almost too much. Genomic data overwhelmed the lab’s computational systems.

“We weren’t able to process the data fast enough,” Ashley said. “We had to completely rethink and revamp our data pipelines and storage systems.” Graduate student Sneha Goenka found a way to funnel the data straight to a cloud-based storage system where computational power could be amplified enough to sift through the data in real time. Algorithms then independently scanned the incoming genetic code for errors that might cause disease, and, in the final step, the scientists conducted a comparison of the patient’s gene variants against publicly documented variants known to cause disease.
 
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This is great news! They even saved that boy's life by using this super fast method. Do you have any objections to this?
have concerns yes, the machine will soon be able to decode within 2 hours.

Once it goes that fast it won't be long before its 5 minutes. With such technology advancing so quick are we ready for it