Should artificial intelligence be allowed to evolve

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Should artificial intelligence be allowed to evolve

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • No

    Votes: 11 68.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No I have My reasons why they shouldn't

    Votes: 2 12.5%

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ZNP

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Eli1

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My mindset is you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free
Yes exactly! That gives me peace for example.
 
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As i said, i don't want a fully aware AI with it's own intelligence and self awareness and free will.
However just because there might be a new pandemic, it doesn't mean that a new self-aware AI will be created.
It takes A LOT of work to do this you know?
Like putting the hadron collider together.
well not so hard really seeing as my friend was even discussing the idea,

That idea being a reason why cyborgs may be needed to act upon there own authority, that being a matter of life and death decision.

The robot gets confirmation emergency surgery is needed, but can not get authorisation, it then uses it's own authority
 

ZNP

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I mean, we could argue that the Beast could have come at any point during the history of technology in human history but the Beast didn't come.
Never before in human history did we have the ability to implement the mark of the beast. 50 years ago it was incomprehensible how you could control every financial transaction on the globe. Since then they implemented direct deposit, you can deposit checks electronically with your phone, you can move money from one account to another on your phone, but that is only part of the equation. Starlink is allowing internet access to every corner of the globe. They are still in the process of putting that net over the earth, but even with that it is still only one part of the equation. You still need a massive quantum computer to be able to handle all of this. But even with all three of those, you still need one more piece to the puzzle. This is the most energy intensive application ever conceived. How do you secure the power for this to work, because as powerful as this is, imagine the global catastrophe if the power goes down.

But even if you have these four pieces of the puzzle and we can now at least visualize this happening shortly, you still need one world currency and the laws concerning this. That is what Agenda 2030 was which goes into effect in two days. A seven year covenant with the many nations that strengthens the Paris accord by surveilling every financial transaction to guarantee compliance. So now we are on the precipice.

But you still have one more issue to deal with. They understand that there will be great disruptions and those engender mass protests, riots and revolt. So you need to determine the best way to maintain order. Do you use "quarantine camps" like those in Australia and the ones that NY state recently authorized? Or do you lock people in their apartment buildings like China did? Do you use an app on a phone? How about a mass vaccination program and if you are going to do that how do you make sure there is full compliance?
 

Eli1

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well not so hard really seeing as my friend was even discussing the idea,

That idea being a reason why cyborgs may be needed to act upon there own authority, that being a matter of life and death decision.

The robot gets confirmation emergency surgery is needed, but can not get authorisation, it then uses it's own authority
But right now this doesn't exist. Do you understand this? I mean this is why you need to learn a bit more about technology so you're not making bad choices in life.
The robot right now doesn't have its own "authority". There is a program written by a human called "authority" lol, which tells it do to a task.
And also, this is very important, no hospital in their right mind will let a robot perform unguided with a specific program all on its own.
 

Eli1

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Never before in human history did we have the ability to implement the mark of the beast. 50 years ago it was incomprehensible how you could control every financial transaction on the globe. Since then they implemented direct deposit, you can deposit checks electronically with your phone, you can move money from one account to another on your phone, but that is only part of the equation. Starlink is allowing internet access to every corner of the globe. They are still in the process of putting that net over the earth, but even with that it is still only one part of the equation. You still need a massive quantum computer to be able to handle all of this. But even with all three of those, you still need one more piece to the puzzle. This is the most energy intensive application ever conceived. How do you secure the power for this to work, because as powerful as this is, imagine the global catastrophe if the power goes down.

But even if you have these four pieces of the puzzle and we can now at least visualize this happening shortly, you still need one world currency and the laws concerning this. That is what Agenda 2030 was which goes into effect in two days. A seven year covenant with the many nations that strengthens the Paris accord by surveilling every financial transaction to guarantee compliance. So now we are on the precipice.

But you still have one more issue to deal with. They understand that there will be great disruptions and those engender mass protests, riots and revolt. So you need to determine the best way to maintain order. Do you use "quarantine camps" like those in Australia and the ones that NY state recently authorized? Or do you lock people in their apartment buildings like China did? Do you use an app on a phone? How about a mass vaccination program and if you are going to do that how do you make sure there is full compliance?
So the changes before don't matter. Only the changes in your lifetime matter.
Not sure why you think anything is going to happen but try to put yourself at any other point in history. Let's take the plague in europe for example. Millions of people died like flies. Millions.
I mean you can certainly project a sense of impending doom but the majority is not going to buy it. This probably gives you a sense of being right, i know, because you think that everyone else is wrong, including Jesus who says "only the Father knows when".
 

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But right now this doesn't exist? Do you understand this? I mean this is why you need a learn a bit more about technology so you're not making bad choices in life.
The robot right now doesn't have its own "authority". There is a program written by a human called "authority" lol, which tells it do to a taks.
And also, this is very important, no hospital in their right mind will let a robot perform unguided with a specific program all on its own.
The strategy in Go is to move in from the edges. That is what they are doing. With each new app they gain a little more control, a little more control until every single lever in human society uses AI. You can argue that the ultimate control is people, but it is like a wheelchair, the longer you are in it the harder it is to walk. After 2 years of relying on AI there won't be enough capable people to take over from it should it fail.
 

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So the changes before don't matter. Only the changes in your lifetime matter.
Not sure why you think anything is going to happen but try to put yourself at any other point in history. Let's take the plague in europe for example. Millions of people died like flies. Millions.
I mean you can certainly project a sense of impending doom but the majority is not going to buy it. This probably gives you a sense of being right, i know, because you think that everyone else is wrong, including Jesus who says "only the Father knows when".
Jesus said much more than that. He said you need to be giving people food in season. He said when you see these things begin to take place look up for your redemption draws nigh. He said that if Sardis didn't repent He would come at an hour they didn't expect.
 

Eli1

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The strategy in Go is to move in from the edges. That is what they are doing. With each new app they gain a little more control, a little more control until every single lever in human society uses AI. You can argue that the ultimate control is people, but it is like a wheelchair, the longer you are in it the harder it is to walk. After 2 years of relying on AI there won't be enough capable people to take over from it should it fail.
I can understand this point too and i agree with you. AI may make people lazy, like Calvinism makes people lazy. God is doing all the work so we can just sit on the couch and watch TV now.
But people are already lazy now. The new generation comes to work and say "Okay i showed up, can i get a raise now?".
Again, change is a fact of life.
 

Eli1

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Jesus said much more than that. He said you need to be giving people food in season. He said when you see these things begin to take place look up for your redemption draws nigh. He said that if Sardis didn't repent He would come at an hour they didn't expect.
Yes and in other places in the Bible Jesus says to be calm and happy.

"Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. "
 

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Yes and in other places in the Bible Jesus says to be calm and happy.

"Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. "
I am at peace, my heart is not troubled, Pharaoh's army needs to be troubled because they are about to drown. Unrepentant sinners need to wake up and repent or else they also will have trouble.

If the sky is red at night you will have peace in the next day. When Jesus died that was the end of my day, the sky was red with His blood. We have tribulation in this age, peace in the next.

If the sky is red in the morning you will have trouble. Jesus' death was the start of the Antichrist system and kingdom of darkness. No peace for them.
 

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it was not just surgical operations attached to cyBorgs it was also genetic decoding to identify illnesses and correct them,
I love how auto correct works so well that I never have a mis pellet word and it halps perfectly. I certainly trust it to do surgeries and take our jobs.
 
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But right now this doesn't exist. Do you understand this? I mean this is why you need to learn a bit more about technology so you're not making bad choices in life.
The robot right now doesn't have its own "authority". There is a program written by a human called "authority" lol, which tells it do to a task.
And also, this is very important, no hospital in their right mind will let a robot perform unguided with a specific program all on its own.
well yes you have a point at present, but again where talking about insurance policies for government plans of the future.

Then Those policies being put in place should there be another world wide pandemic on the bases it could be worse than the last one.

Then the government in a race against time to implement this idea, in case of financial breakdown,

The doctors are about saving lives are they going refuse lives being saved if they can't guide the robots

The government allowed a vaccine that has not been tested for its normal 5 year period.

However I would imagine this plan would be implemented on a tried and tested period only .

So what then would you be for the idea then
 

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well not so hard really seeing as my friend was even discussing the idea,

That idea being a reason why cyborgs may be needed to act upon there own authority, that being a matter of life and death decision.

The robot gets confirmation emergency surgery is needed, but can not get authorisation, it then uses it's own authority
Ren had emergency surgery.
The microsurgeries will be done by robots at every mall, says Elon Musk, to do brain surgeries economically and available to everyone.

I think they will just love it!
 

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Tesla is targeting cops?
No, I think it's that Tesla computer self driving cars are just THAT safe.
People think robotic takeover of jobs to replace humans is a good thing.
Maybe they think they will get the savings passed onto them and the cost of living will go down. 🤔
 
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Ren had emergency surgery.
The microsurgeries will be done by robots at every mall, says Elon Musk, to do brain surgeries economically and available to everyone.

I think they will just love it!
Lol love the phrase I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs 😊😂