Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[ZNP]

Let's talk about why those who hate Trump hate him so much.

They will say it was because of an offensive joke he once told some guy, or because he doesn't like Rosie or McCain. But let's be real, that doesn't even come close to explaining their hatred. The joke was offensive, that is true, but I've heard Nixon and LBJ say worse, and what Trump joked about doing Bill Clinton did, and no one wants to talk about what Hiillary or Obama would do. As for Rosie she is not very likable, and as for McCain, everyone in politics has political enemies.

So let's dig down deeper, there must be something that has stirred up their hate.

1. Trump is shutting down human trafficking. That was the point of the wall with Mexico. That is clearly a very sensitive point with many people. They claimed it was because he was Xenophobic and lacked empathy, but these virtue signalers have all been exposed as hypocrites and frauds. So then one reason many viciously attack him is because he would shut down human trafficking and even prosecute pedophiles. That doesn't mean that everyone who hates Trump is a pedophile involved in human trafficking, but it is undeniably one reason why some that hate him are so vicious.

2. Trump is stopping endless wars. You might think everyone is against war but that is clearly not the case. Don't look at what they say, look at what they do. War is very profitable. The truth is no one likes fighting in a war (except for a few wackos like Patton and MacArthur). But making money from war, there is most definitely many people who love that, so much so that they are big money donors and hate anyone who would separate them from their billions in blood money. This does not mean that everyone who hates Trump is a war monger, but it definitely explains where all the money comes from to fuel the hate you see in the MSM. Also, I think it is clear that anyone that hates Trump doesn't really care if we fight wars or not, can't be a big priority to them. This could explain many of the women haters, especially the feminists. They aren't going to go and fight and die, and they don't like men anyway, so what if they go and fight and die. It also explains why younger people and people of color are becoming much more supportive of Trump. They know that they will be the ones to go fight and die and they know he stopped wars while Biden starts them.

3. Trump is exposing Washington Corruption. Obviously if you are a crooked politician and fear that if you got exposed you would be ruined, go to jail and lose everything, then that is a logical reason why you hate Trump. Think of how nasty Chuck Schumer was and Maxine Waters encouraging people to harass anyone in the Trump administration. No doubt there are a lot of corrupt politicians and that is why they would support a geriatric Biden, they know a guy that corrupt would never dare try and prosecute them. This does not mean that everyone out there on social media platforms that hates Trump is a crooked thief, but it does explain why some feel that Trump getting elected would be an existential threat to them.

4. Trump is ending the Fed Banking Scam. Some people don't even understand this scam, sadly they are too stupid to even realize how bad they are being robbed and how much they already have been robbed. But bankers, Wall Street, and fat cats all understand this is the secret to their wealth. You can bet the reason they will pay any price to keep Trump from office is because it would mean a day of reckoning and the end of the gravy train. This doesn't mean that anyone on this thread that hates Trump is one of them, on the contrary they are all too stupid to even know what this is. But it could explain bots on these platforms, and it certainly explains the fear the globalists have of Trump.

Although these are clearly the four main reasons why so many hate Trump it may not be a comprehensive list. So even if it is likely that one of these four reasons explains why someone hates Trump, it might not. They could simply be useful idiots.

 

[mailmandan]

This is how Democrats protect democracy in the US

In an attempt to protect "democracy" the AG in Maine has decided based on her dislike of Trump to remove him from ballot in Maine. After all if she doesn't like him there is no reason why anyone else in Maine should be able to vote for him.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EcltPqCAQQ4

"We must save democracy by preventing you from voting for your candidate of choice?" That's democracy according to the Democrats?

 

[Sculpt]

I'm not going to rehash everything. You are free to believe as you like. But there has been sufficient evidence given over the course of this thread to show massive fraud in the last election...from illegal law changes, malfunctioning machines, mules stuffing ballots in boxes, dead people voting, suddenly found stores of ballots, testimony of postal workers hauling ballots, illegals voting, illegal ballot harvesting.
Little of this has found its way into courtrooms. And that's not because there are no evidence. It's because there is no will to compel the evidence. When people come forward, the press dismisses and redirects the narrative. And those who could pursue the issues lack the fortitude to do so. If congress had pursued voter fraud the way they have pursued Biden's illegal political and business activity, we would have much to talk about.

I'll leave you with this: why did over 30 states change their voting laws after the 2020 election?

I hear ya. How about I'll watch 2000 Mules if you post (or copy/paste repost) the best specific evidence of fraud. Something very specific with a link. Take your time. No rush. I appreciate your effort in advance.

 

[Cameron143]

I hear ya. How about I'll watch 2000 Mules if you post (or copy/paste repost) the best specific evidence of fraud. Something very specific with a link. Take your time. No rush. I appreciate your effort in advance.

You should have already watched 2,000 mules if you are truly interested in getting truth. Whatever you decide to make of it is immaterial. It makes claims you should have investigated.
As far as further discussion, I'm not inclined. Our last few exchanges have shown that while you profess a desire for truth, you have no qualms with taking what someone shares and misconstruing the message to cast doubt and suggest ideas never intended.
Grace and peace.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

This is a question for any and all Trump/MAGA supporters. Is there any line he could cross that would cause you to stop supporting him? In other words, is your support for him unconditional? I'm just wondering if you've made up your mind to support him no matter what.

Two things:
He could be declared ineligible to run for prexy (the present political strategy).
OR
He could be assassinated, or die of a physical condition.

I which case I would no longer bother with U.S. Elections.

 

[Sculpt]

You should have already watched 2,000 mules if you are truly interested in getting truth. Whatever you decide to make of it is immaterial. It makes claims you should have investigated.
As far as further discussion, I'm not inclined. Our last few exchanges have shown that while you profess a desire for truth, you have no qualms with taking what someone shares and misconstruing the message to cast doubt and suggest ideas never intended.
Grace and peace.

Fair enough. Mules is on my list. Sorry if I misconstrued something you said. I may misconstrue anything anyone writes, but I haven't done that on purpose. You want people to do something about the situation, so I wanted to see if you could offer the best nugget for anyone to bite into. Grace and peace.

 

[Cameron143]

Fair enough. Mules is on my list. Sorry if I misconstrued something you said. I may misconstrue anything anyone writes, but I haven't done that on purpose. You want people to do something about the situation, so I wanted to see if you could offer the best nugget for anyone to bite into. Grace and peace.

2,000 mules isn't a perfect movie, but it does show the scope of the problem. The real problem isn't that there isn't evidence. The problem is getting to it or the will to get to it in other instances.
The federal government has loads of testimony and documents on voter fraud and other topics. For example, when government officials are called before Congress to testify, they lie, refuse to answer, and block the transfer of information. All with impunity. This is why the truth doesn't come out. The information is withheld.
That was the whole purpose behind a previous post. Information can be known without evidence. I wasn't suggesting we throw out the existing framework by which we are governed by abrogating the constitution or sending unconvicted persons to jail.

 

[ZNP]

2,000 mules isn't a perfect movie, but it does show the scope of the problem. The real problem isn't that there isn't evidence. The problem is getting to it or the will to get to it in other instances.
The federal government has loads of testimony and documents on voter fraud and other topics. For example, when government officials are called before Congress to testify, they lie, refuse to answer, and block the transfer of information. All with impunity. This is why the truth doesn't come out. The information is withheld.
That was the whole purpose behind a previous post. Information can be known without evidence. I wasn't suggesting we throw out the existing framework by which we are governed by abrogating the constitution or sending unconvicted persons to jail.

The movie tells us what we should be watching for in 2024, it should be very, very difficult to pull that off again if we are watching and if many of the people they hire to steal the election actually are undercover to expose the fraud. Therefore if they can't steal the election in 2024 it will be like cutting down the tree and then the work of rooting up the roots begins.

 

[Cameron143]

The movie tells us what we should be watching for in 2024, it should be very, very difficult to pull that off again if we are watching and if many of the people they hire to steal the election actually are undercover to expose the fraud. Therefore if they can't steal the election in 2024 it will be like cutting down the tree and then the work of rooting up the roots begins.

The rooting up the roots is what didn't happen under the first Trump administration. I don't fully fault Trump for this. Most had no idea how deeply the roots were embedded. I certainly did not. But there are no excuses this time should he get into office.

 

[ZNP]

The rooting up the roots is what didn't happen under the first Trump administration. I don't fully fault Trump for this. Most had no idea how deeply the roots were embedded. I certainly did not. But there are no excuses this time should he get into office.

they didn't even cut down the trees. All they have done in the last 7 years is mark which trees need to be cut down.

 

[Cameron143]

W

they didn't even cut down the trees. All they have done in the last 7 years is mark which trees need to be cut down.

While I don't disagree, at least we have a better idea now that we're not simply dealing with a row of trees but the entire forest.

 

[ZNP]

W

While I don't disagree, at least we have a better idea now that we're not simply dealing with a row of trees but the entire forest.

If it was the entire forest then they would just laugh at Trump, they aren't laughing and that means the majority of the forest are not the crooks.

It is pointless to be a crook if everyone is a crook, who are you robbing?

 

[Cameron143]

If it was the entire forest then they would just laugh at Trump, they aren't laughing and that means the majority of the forest are not the crooks.

It is pointless to be a crook if everyone is a crook, who are you robbing?

Since I obviously don't understand your metaphors, I'll just say... awesome.

 

[ZNP]

Since I obviously don't understand your metaphors, I'll just say... awesome.

When a bank robber robs a bank, whose money is he robbing? Bank robbers don't keep their money in a bank, drug dealers wear gold chains around their neck because they can't keep their money in a bank, Al Capone got convicted for tax fraud, they can't declare money gotten illegally. So the robber robs from people who are working, paying their taxes and for the most part not thieves and criminals. Crooks are like parasites, they live off of other organisms. You can find a wild deer that is infested with parasites, there could be hundreds, but the weight of the deer will be 200 pounds and the weight of the parasites might be 2 pounds.

 

[Cameron143]

When a bank robber robs a bank, whose money is he robbing? Bank robbers don't keep their money in a bank, drug dealers wear gold chains around their neck because they can't keep their money in a bank, Al Capone got convicted for tax fraud, they can't declare money gotten illegally. So the robber robs from people who are working, paying their taxes and for the most part not thieves and criminals. Crooks are like parasites, they live off of other organisms. You can find a wild deer that is infested with parasites, there could be hundreds, but the weight of the deer will be 200 pounds and the weight of the parasites might be 2 pounds.

Okay. So a train is going east along the tracks at 100 miles per hour. Another train on the same track is heading west at 100 miles per hour. How much popcorn does it take to fill the empire state building? True or false?

 

[ZNP]

Okay. So a train is going east along the tracks at 100 miles per hour. Another train on the same track is heading west at 100 miles per hour. How much popcorn does it take to fill the empire state building? True or false?

Precisely, now you got it.

 

[ZNP]

These people are Satanic

Frequently I see Steve Bannon's warroom and he always plays Jake Tapper saying of the deplorables "I wish any of these people had a conscience". Now that is something I refuse to say concerning the left and the liberals and all those spewing hate on MAGA. I refuse to say it because man is made in the image and likeness of God. He is the one who gave us a conscience. Think how Satanic it is for Jake Tapper to claim that MAGA does not have a conscience. To say that is to say they are not human. This is what dictators say when motivating their people to go to war. They depict the enemy as being sub human making it OK to kill them.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

IMO,the horrible unchristian like morals that Donald Trump shows doesn't matter to MAGA.

 

[ZNP]

The light conquers the darkness

Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.

25 And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan.

It is stunning the contrast between these verses and listening to Gamaliel in Acts compare Jesus to insurrectionists who had claimed that they were someone. You wonder how could they possibly be talking about the same person. How can great multitudes throughout all of Syria have one opinion about a person while the guys in the ivory tower of Jerusalem have such a completely different view? But then today you realize how they do it, you see the level of censorship, lies and darkness while talking about Trump. I was in NYC listening to MSNBC and CNN for four years when the Stop the Steal rallies began. There was a rally in Washington DC, four hours away, on a Saturday. I wasn't working, my wife was working a double shift, I thought let me drive down there and see for myself what is going on. The contrast was stunning, I realized the story I was being told by MSNBC and CNN was not the truth. In the gospels it takes more than three years, first it is the deplorables from the region around Syria, but when Jesus rides into Jerusalem even all of Jerusalem is now crying Hosannah! By this time the Pharisees realize the jig is up and the whole world is now following Jesus and no one is listening to their lies and distortions anymore.

We are about to enter the 4th year of Biden's presidency and already you can see this same pattern with Trump. Three years ago it was the "deplorables" cheering him on while their betters in the great cities knew better. But today the popularity is spreading even to cities like NYC and Chicago. No doubt they will try and slander me saying I am comparing Trump to Jesus, not what I am doing, what I am doing is saying that the truth shines in the darkness and the darkness is completely defeated by the light. That was true 2,000 years ago, and that is still true today.

 

[ZNP]

The story in Genesis 10 concerning Shem, the line from Noah that leads to Abraham.


Gen 10:21 Unto the Name children were born, He was also the Father (G-d) of all the children of the region beyond, the Brother (Yeshua) Who opened the way for a great number. Gen 10:22 The children of the Name are eternal, and step forth from light that trickles from their mother’s breast, and through strife they are exalted. Gen 10:23 And the children of the exalted walked the sand in a circle, and from fear were drawn out, delivered. Gen 10:24 And light trickles from the breast (the feminine nature of G-d) and gives birth to new life that goes forward and new life goes forward and is born again in the region beyond. Gen 10:25 And unto the region beyond (eternity past, present, future) were born two sons: the name of one was division (The first Adam); for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was the least (The Last Adam: Yeshua the servant). Gen 10:26 And the least gave birth to that which can’t be measured, and drawn forth from the village of death is the Messiah (New moon), Gen 10:27 And the noble honourable one, shall bring a flood producing a fruitful garden,
Gen 10:28 And He was stripped bare, the one called My Father is G-d, and was blessed abundantly, Gen 10:29 And abundance encompassed the desert: all these were the sons of the least. Gen 10:30 And their dwelling was in freedom and numbers on a mountain they moved forward. Gen 10:31 These are the sons of the Name, after their families, after their languages, in their lands, after their nations.