Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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What’s the criteria for being part of the elite? Or is it whoever you decide?
Fielty to Satan and his fallen host.

Redemption is only for the humble who ask for it.
Those who do not ask for it suffer by and from the very same sin of pride that Satan does.
FYI......the very nature of asking Jesus or denying Him is a PROOF of freewill decision.

This freewill being part of Gods gift of true life. And the denial of it is the primordial Satanic lie of Genesis chapter 3.

Which I assure you is the very same lie that the elites believe to this present day.
Among other lies which are essentially permutations thereof.
 

ZNP

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Joe Biden is not given enough credit -- He has redefined this era.

Whitehouse will never have the same meaning after discovering a bag of the white stuff there.

Defender of Democracy -- again who would have thought that the way to defend democracy is to lock up your political opponents.

Domestic Terrorist -- Gone are the days of the Xenophobic stereotypes, now we have the mother at the school board meeting is the terrorist.

Inflation -- Who knew you were to measure inflation by inches on a graph.

Truman coined the phrase "the buck stops here" whereas Biden has redefined the meaning of accountability with "rules for thee but not for me" and his crime family.

He has even redefined what it means to be "black". Who knew that supporting Joe Biden was a prerequisite.
 

Cameron143

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Joe Biden is not given enough credit -- He has redefined this era.

Whitehouse will never have the same meaning after discovering a bag of the white stuff there.

Defender of Democracy -- again who would have thought that the way to defend democracy is to lock up your political opponents.

Domestic Terrorist -- Gone are the days of the Xenophobic stereotypes, now we have the mother at the school board meeting is the terrorist.

Inflation -- Who knew you were to measure inflation by inches on a graph.

Truman coined the phrase "the buck stops here" whereas Biden has redefined the meaning of accountability with "rules for thee but not for me" and his crime family.

He has even redefined what it means to be "black". Who knew that supporting Joe Biden was a prerequisite.
I believe the $bucks$ stop with him. And I don't believe he is a crossing guard at a deer crossing.
 
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When Elon Musk took over Twitter he revealed there were tens of thousands of bots, it is extremely likely if not a guarantee that many of the more cultic Twitter posts were bots involved in a Psy Op.

I went to a Stop the Steal rally and talked to the people, that was eye opening to me that they were intelligent, reasonable and logical in their assessment.

Forming opinions based on Twitter posts is the easiest way to allow yourself to be manipulated.
The majority of that cult DO form their opinions based on Twitter though and the ones that seem level headed that love such an unGODly guy like Trump blows my mind.

Morals are Important to me more than money.
 

ZNP

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The majority of that cult DO form their opinions based on Twitter though and the ones that seem level headed that love such an unGODly guy like Trump blows my mind.

Morals are Important to me more than money.
I have not met any one that meets that description and I went to 7 stop the Steal rallies including Jan 6th, I have also been to churches all over this country and I have been to all 50 states. However, I do not use Twitter or X.
 
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I have not met any one that meets that description and I went to 7 stop the Steal rallies including Jan 6th, I have also been to churches all over this country and I have been to all 50 states. However, I do not use Twitter or X.
You may not have met them but they are EVERYWHERE It seems If you Want to see It.
Some of them
 

ZNP

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You may not have met them but they are EVERYWHERE It seems If you Want to see It.
Some of them
Funny, but stupid. The US was the sole superpower after WW2. Doesn't mean they were morally pure, or the ethical standard that all men should ascribe to.

I heard a man who was from China talking in the 1970s and he was stunned when he saw our supermarkets and the wealth of America.

Those comedians on your link sound funny, but they are displaying their ignorance because the US was great after WW2. They did a marvelous job with Japan, they did a marvelous job with Europe. They were generous and an example to the entire world.

In the 70s I went to England to go to HS. People talked about "big American cars" and I had no idea what they were talking about until I got to England and discovered tiny European cars.

In the 1980s I went to Mexico, Reynosa, while driving through the desert I saw homes that appeared to being built a few cinder blocks at a time as though the person bought 3 or 4 cinder blocks with each paycheck. Some were two feet high, some four feet high, but they were all in one state or another of being built. Just walls, dirt floors and no roof yet. But then I got to the city, we were in a van and the brother next to me pointed to this giant mansion, it had a great wall with guards, he said inside there was an indoor tennis court and indoor swimming pool. I asked "who lives there?" He said the police chief.

I was in Taiwan in 1987. This was a rapidly developing nation, a major part of the Asian boom. Everyone rode a bicycle, there were so many bicycles that it was hard to squeeze your bicycle into the places where you lock them up.

So you may think this is clever, but it comes across to me as infantile and stupid, people having no clue what the rest of the world was like after WW2.

I heard a conversation between two men from China. They saw an American kid walk into the dining room and take an apple off the center plate and eat it. The one man was in shock and the other turned to him, understanding, and said "in America even the flies are clean".
 

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If one is committed to globalism and at the same time destroying humanity (particularly America) and preserving himself/herself for the false religion of Climate Change, that person is one of the elite. Flying around in private jets and polluting the atmosphere while telling the general public to ride on bicycles is another criterion. If one is committed to fear-mongering and destroying freedom through bogus pandemics, that is another criterion.
Well, in Texas we treasure our freedom. That doesn’t mean we take Trump at face value. Nor Biden.
 
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Funny, but stupid. The US was the sole superpower after WW2. Doesn't mean they were morally pure, or the ethical standard that all men should ascribe to.

I heard a man who was from China talking in the 1970s and he was stunned when he saw our supermarkets and the wealth of America.

Those comedians on your link sound funny, but they are displaying their ignorance because the US was great after WW2. They did a marvelous job with Japan, they did a marvelous job with Europe. They were generous and an example to the entire world.

In the 70s I went to England to go to HS. People talked about "big American cars" and I had no idea what they were talking about until I got to England and discovered tiny European cars.

In the 1980s I went to Mexico, Reynosa, while driving through the desert I saw homes that appeared to being built a few cinder blocks at a time as though the person bought 3 or 4 cinder blocks with each paycheck. Some were two feet high, some four feet high, but they were all in one state or another of being built. Just walls, dirt floors and no roof yet. But then I got to the city, we were in a van and the brother next to me pointed to this giant mansion, it had a great wall with guards, he said inside there was an indoor tennis court and indoor swimming pool. I asked "who lives there?" He said the police chief.

I was in Taiwan in 1987. This was a rapidly developing nation, a major part of the Asian boom. Everyone rode a bicycle, there were so many bicycles that it was hard to squeeze your bicycle into the places where you lock them up.

So you may think this is clever, but it comes across to me as infantile and stupid, people having no clue what the rest of the world was like after WW2.

I heard a conversation between two men from China. They saw an American kid walk into the dining room and take an apple off the center plate and eat it. The one man was in shock and the other turned to him, understanding, and said "in America even the flies are clean".
There you have It,maga cult types.🤦‍♂️
 

Susanna

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It’s a bit interesting to watch how people are behaving regarding Trump. I know, I’m a MAGA survivor. Back in 2016 I was rooting for him like there was no tomorrow. Today, I can’t support him nor the Democrats at all.

The Republicans have to find a decent candidate before the general election. I don’t think the GOP will survive one more election with Trump.
 

Nehemiah6

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Well, in Texas we treasure our freedom. That doesn’t mean we take Trump at face value. Nor Biden.
Yes. But Texas has done virtually nothing about the flood of third world migrant invaders coming through. Promoting this invasion is another criterion of the elites.

The Hispanic population of Texas is now greater than that of whites. And historically Texas was always under siege by Mexico, but never built a wall. It seems that the governor is more talk than action. And why is he sending these people INTO the USA instead of deporting them outside the country and shutting down the border, which is being controlled by the drug cartels?

Your freedom will be directly impacted by fraudulent voting by these migrant invaders (who are being treated royally at taxpayer expense). They are also flooding the country with various diseases, while the cartels flood it with Fentanyl. That's the whole idea of this invasion. And many of them are developing terrorist cells to support China and Iran (if necessary). An Iranian who recently entered illegally said that all they have to do is go to Turkey, from Turkey to Mexico, and Voila! They are through the open border and into the USA.
 

Nehemiah6

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That’s not a GODly thing to think about.
Well in Romans 13:4 God says that the sword may be used to execute evildoers. For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
 

iamsoandso

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It’s a bit interesting to watch how people are behaving regarding Trump. I know, I’m a MAGA survivor. Back in 2016 I was rooting for him like there was no tomorrow. Today, I can’t support him nor the Democrats at all.

The Republicans have to find a decent candidate before the general election. I don’t think the GOP will survive one more election with Trump.

Yep here in Texas Ann Richards was the last Democrat in charge and so for 29 years(3 decades) it has been in Republican control(Bush,Bush,Perry,Perry ,Abbott,Abbott) and it's just gotten worse and worse. Not that I'm saying Democrats are the answer but it's starting to look really silly when they ask the current administration whats happening and inside two sentences they change the subject to Hunters laptop or Hillery. It sort of leaves me thinking how on earth can they blame Democrats when they haven't been the Governor for 3 decades. To me I don't need to daydream anymore what it would be like if the Republicans were in full charge of things because we have the polluted lakes,rivers and bays and miles and miles of roads full of pot holes that testify what they will do with full control of the government in Texas. There actions over thirty years has already told me what they will do...
 

iamsoandso

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Yes. But Texas has done virtually nothing about the flood of third world migrant invaders coming through. Promoting this invasion is another criterion of the elites.

The Hispanic population of Texas is now greater than that of whites. And historically Texas was always under siege by Mexico, but never built a wall. It seems that the governor is more talk than action. And why is he sending these people INTO the USA instead of deporting them outside the country and shutting down the border, which is being controlled by the drug cartels?

Your freedom will be directly impacted by fraudulent voting by these migrant invaders (who are being treated royally at taxpayer expense). They are also flooding the country with various diseases, while the cartels flood it with Fentanyl. That's the whole idea of this invasion. And many of them are developing terrorist cells to support China and Iran (if necessary). An Iranian who recently entered illegally said that all they have to do is go to Turkey, from Turkey to Mexico, and Voila! They are through the open border and into the USA.
They began building the wall and fences ect. in the 40's and 50's. It's a wall/structure that every president is suppose to build a section of DT just likes calling it the "Trump Wall" because he knows the vast amount of his supporters don't know it's real history... https://www.southernborder.org/the_..._harris_administration_should_tear_walls_down
 

ZNP

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In my opinion the US came under attack on 1/1/2020. Yes, the Pandemic was an act of war. But if the US stood strong, snowflakes united with MAGA the country would easily be able to repel the attack. But the enemy was already within and their job was to divide and conquer. Get snowflakes to think MAGA were their enemy and then to hide in the corner listening to the true enemy fill you with lies while they tried to kill MAGA.

Think about January 6th, everyone who saw that on TV was horrified, but some like Tucker realized things didn't add up, and others began to dig into this story and discover lie upon lie. Even today you can hear someone on MSNBC or CNN talk about police being bludgeoned to death on that day.

Anyone who takes a step back, puts their political biases aside, and looks at the last three years calmly and logically realizes they have been playing the American people. Fauci, the lies are brazen and obvious, but for some reason the MSM ignores that or even protects him. Kyle Rittenhouse, the lies were brazen and obvious, but for some reason they covered that up. Jussie Smollett, the lies were brazen and obvious and yet the MSM ran with them and amplified them. Vaccine mandate, accusations of Anti Vaxx and anti Science. CRT, and labeling parents as Domestic terrorists. Labeling 75 million people who voted for Trump as domestic terrorists.
The point is these people aren't stupid, therefore they are intentionally trying to divide America. Think of the race baiting and continuous accusations of racist. It is all designed to divide and conquer. Meanwhile, while the country is divided fighting against each other over idiotic things like Trump and Biden, 10 million illegals cross the border, 8 million of which are military aged men. This is like one of those inside jobs where the bank president opens the back door for the thieves to get inside while the rest of the employees are squabbling with each other and the guards are demonized by the bank President.

This isn't about "Republican vs Democrat" because many of those who claim to be "republican" obviously are not. If they were a year ago they would have retracted the Jan 6th committee report, and without that you wouldn't have anyone removing Trump from the Ballot. This removal of Trump is another example of something so brazen it is simply designed to distract and divide. But it tells us something, they are not afraid of the election, whatever attack they have planned will take place before the election.

This is so widespread, so big that it can't simply be about corruption. There is no contract or quid pro quo so big they could capture so much of the US government. The only thing this big would be "globalism". The reason people become traitors can be as simple as money but often it has to do with ideology. They like to think they know better and that "this is for the good of the people" and "you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet". What we are witnessing is a religion, like Islam that wants to bring in their theocracy known as "Sharia law" or like the Freemasons which have a very similar plan on bringing in one world government.
 

ZNP

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I am Canadian and cant vote in the USA but if this is true...

Trump Shares Blasphemous Video Called ‘God Made Trump,’ Calling Him ‘A Shepherd To Mankind Who Will Never Leave Nor Forsake Them’

link:https://winepressnews.com/2024/01/0...ankind-who-will-never-leave-nor-forsake-them/
Blasphemy -- the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things

I got bored reading this, but why don't you simply quote the part you find blasphemous for us.
 

ZNP

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