Is it the ‘end of the world?’ or ‘the end of the age?’

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Pilgrimshope

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I will check that out my friend and advise in the near future. I've never heard of that text, and it isn't a part of our canonical Bibles, so it is likely gnostic.

Like you, I keep my theology grounded on the Holy Bible. All works outside of this I look at from a literary perspective. They are not to be used for doctrine and proven teaching founded on Jesus Christ.
Indeed yes i mentioned it because of a quote you used that begins the text it’s I retesting indeed but like I was saying I can never really come to the point I do with trusting the biblical text

In my own belief the Bible and its contents are by Gods design even though we can look at the process that men carried out in my belief Gods design was the Bible to be spread across the globe

so while some of the texts like Clemente letter to the Corinthians I don’t find any issues in it at all or the history behind it but still I feel as if God would have included it in his word spread across the globe that to me is very clearly the fulfillment of March prophecy sayong hos message would be preached from one end of earth to the other from the beginning to the end that he may have a full harvest come the harvest day

“He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; the field is the world;

the good seed are the children of the kingdom;

but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

the enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:37-43‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

SilverFox7

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“I wish Paul would have elaborated further! “

have you ever read the apocalypse of Paul ? Not really sure about it but it’s an interesting read and story behind its discovery. It’s definately early is why I find it a good read but also it really does read like Paul’s concepts but then also a lot of things that aren’t really like Paul’s doctrine nothing co teary really just things he never spoke about but it seems he spent a lot of time and care crafting which subjects to touch upon in the few epistles we do have from him

i really wish we had more authentic scripture but it’s hard for me really to take anything as I do the Bible and what’s in it

i mention Paul’s apocalypse because it purports to be what Paul saw in a similar spiritual heavenly vision as johns but also touching on other thkngs then Wrote down and buried in the floor of a known early Christian home

thats the claim is what I mean I don’t know it’s a interesting read if you haven’t
The Apocalypse of Paul would be an interesting read, but it certainly needs to be viewed as a literary text--certainly not "God breathed" like our Holy Bible. It is classified as apocryphal, which means the authorship and/or authenticity is suspect and not confirmed unlike the apostle Paul's epistles in the New Testament that are canonical and confirmed by Church leadership.

Based on commentary I read on The Apocalypse of Paul, it has some wild ideas about heaven and hell, and I found it quite funny that Paul or the virgin Mary persuade God to give everyone in hell a day off every Sunday! :D

I would read this text like any other piece of classical literature--great stories, philosophy, wisdom, and history but not scriptural authority like the Bible.

I will add this to my reading list, but it will likely have to wait until heaven because I won't complete my current reading list until 2075 or so...:)
 

SilverFox7

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#83
so while some of the texts like Clemente letter to the Corinthians I don’t find any issues in it at all or the history behind it but still I feel as if God would have included it in his word spread across the globe that to me is very clearly the fulfillment of March prophecy sayong hos message would be preached from one end of earth to the other from the beginning to the end that he may have a full harvest come the harvest day
Absolutely--my primary reading focus is the Bible, and it continues to yield new insights and more importantly the spiritual nourishment I need to carry out Christ's work for me. However, I have benefited a great deal also from Christian writers throughout the centuries that have enhanced my Christian walk and given me new perspectives on the Bible.

I am currently reading Russel Kirk's The Conservative Mind, and it is an excellent book about conservatism's roots in "permanent things," especially a Christian worldview towards politics, education, and life in a democratic society in general. Other writers like T.S Eliot, Tennyson, and Donne have broadened and transformed my theology.

I want to read more about prominent church fathers like Luther, Clement, Augustine, and I really enjoy learning about early church history especially.

Have a great Sunday, Pilgrim!
 

Pilgrimshope

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Absolutely--my primary reading focus is the Bible, and it continues to yield new insights and more importantly the spiritual nourishment I need to carry out Christ's work for me. However, I have benefited a great deal also from Christian writers throughout the centuries that have enhanced my Christian walk and given me new perspectives on the Bible.

I am currently reading Russel Kirk's The Conservative Mind, and it is an excellent book about conservatism's roots in "permanent things," especially a Christian worldview towards politics, education, and life in a democratic society in general. Other writers like T.S Eliot, Tennyson, and Donne have broadened and transformed my theology.

I want to read more about prominent church fathers like Luther, Clement, Augustine, and I really enjoy learning about early church history especially.

Have a great Sunday, Pilgrim!
Bless you brother happy Sunday as well to you
 

Pilgrimshope

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The Apocalypse of Paul would be an interesting read, but it certainly needs to be viewed as a literary text--certainly not "God breathed" like our Holy Bible. It is classified as apocryphal, which means the authorship and/or authenticity is suspect and not confirmed unlike the apostle Paul's epistles in the New Testament that are canonical and confirmed by Church leadership.

Based on commentary I read on The Apocalypse of Paul, it has some wild ideas about heaven and hell, and I found it quite funny that Paul or the virgin Mary persuade God to give everyone in hell a day off every Sunday! :D

I would read this text like any other piece of classical literature--great stories, philosophy, wisdom, and history but not scriptural authority like the Bible.

I will add this to my reading list, but it will likely have to wait until heaven because I won't complete my current reading list until 2075 or so...:)
“The Apocalypse of Paul would be an interesting read”

indeed
 

oyster67

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What I do not do is blame the Bible, especially the K.J.B., for my lack of understanding.
Good for you. (y)

I admit there are things written in Scripture that are hard to understand.
Usually the result of not reading the context. Seeking the Spirits aid in understanding is also key.
More often, people are frustrated because the Bible does not always say what they want it to say.
 

oyster67

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Is it the ‘end of the world?’ or ‘the end of the age?’



End of the Age comes 1000 years before the End of the World.

We are approaching the Rapture, which marks the End of the Age.