One Baptism

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That's your view. When linked with 1 Cor 1:17, it means Paul planted the seed being the preacher of the word, his forte, Apollos watered meaning he baptized, and God added to the body of Christ as in Acts 2:47
not a single mention EVER that Apollos ever Baptized anyone....NO MENTION EVER!

what does it do say he did?

PREACHED!!

he did not baptize people in the Bible!

so, you are ADDING to the WORD of God here!
 

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not a single mention EVER that Apollos ever Baptized anyone....NO MENTION EVER!

what does it do say he did?

PREACHED!!

he did not baptize people in the Bible!

so, you are ADDING to the WORD of God here!
When you read Acts 18, 19, and 1 Cor 1-3, it can be assumed that Apollos was a major player in spreading the word, initially only knowing the baptism of John until he was re-instructed by Aquila and Priscilla.

And yes, I'm adding the word baptism but equating it to watered. If you can't do that, what does Paul planted mean? Does planted equate to preach or not? A little common sense sure helps. Use some.
 
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When you read Acts 18, 19, and 1 Cor 1-3, it can be assumed that Apollos was a major player in spreading the word, initially only knowing the baptism of John until he was re-instructed by Aquila and Priscilla.

And yes, I'm adding the word baptism but equating it to watered. If you can't do that, what does Paul planted mean? Does planted equate to preach or not? A little common sense sure helps. Use some.
the Bible is the literal Word of God, nothing can ever be assumed. if Apollos Baptized, Paul, who includes every finite detail, would have mentioned it.
 

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the Bible is the literal Word of God, nothing can ever be assumed. if Apollos Baptized, Paul, who includes every finite detail, would have mentioned it.
You avoided my questions to you. What does it mean that Paul planted? Then answering that by logic and assumption, what would it then be assumed to mean that Apollos watered?
 
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You avoided my questions to you. What does it mean that Paul planted? Then answering that by logic and assumption, what would it then be assumed to mean that Apollos watered?
Planted, is Preaching the Gospel of Jesus, and NOTHING ELSE!
 
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What is watered in that passage if you've logically and correctly so superimposed preaching the word to mean planted?
this is what you asked:
If you're so smart what does 1 cor 3:6 mean??

it was answered

and now we've included 2 Chapters from Acts and 3 Verses not RELATED to Verse 6 in 1 Corinthians

you just have no issue ADDING to the Holy Word and moving the Goalpost until it fits your views.

you're just making it up!
 

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That's your view. When linked with 1 Cor 1:17, it means Paul planted the seed being the preacher of the word, his forte, Apollos watered meaning he baptized, and God added to the body of Christ as in Acts 2:47
WHAT?????
 

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this is what you asked:
If you're so smart what does 1 cor 3:6 mean??

it was answered

and now we've included 2 Chapters from Acts and 3 Verses not RELATED to Verse 6 in 1 Corinthians

you just have no issue ADDING to the Holy Word and moving the Goalpost until it fits your views.

you're just making it up!
Goodbye 👋 believe what you like
 
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The one baptism is Spirit baptism of which water baptism symbolizes.
You get baptized in the name of the Father when He chooses you and grants you the repentance necessary to turn to Him for forgiveness. You get baptized in the name of the Son when you put your trust in the Father's plan for the forgiveness of sins through Jesus Christ. You get baptized in the name of the Holy Spirit when you are born again and receive the Holy Spirit of the Father and Son who work in your heart and mind to perfect you by filling you with the same love that they share so that we can be One with them and will be obeying the Spirit of the Law given by Jesus which is to love God first and everyone else ( including enemies ) as we love ourselves. All three have a part in our salvation but the one baptism is the baptism in the name of the Father. The other two baptisms are a consequence to those the Father chooses. The great commission in Matthew says to go out and preach or teach all nations and it is through this teaching that people get baptized automatically. Water baptism was instituted in Leviticus where a list of all the ways that a Jew becomes spiritually unclean and the necessity of getting spiritually clean by the washing with water. It is still a Jewish practice today and is usually done before a marriage or other special occasions in order to achieve God's blessing. That is why Jews from all over went to John's baptism. They wanted to get spiritually cleansed in order to get God's blessings. They declared their uncleanliness and repented of their sins. We have to remember that the first Christians were practicing Jews and were still in the mindset of Jewish laws and traditions. John clearly states that he baptizes one way ( with water ), but someone else is going to baptize a different way (with the Holy Spirit). In Acts the disciples of John did not receive the gift of the Holy Spirit until Jesus was preached to them. It is through preaching that people get baptized and it happens automatically ( not with water ). Water baptism does not save, but there is a believer's baptism with water which illustrates or symbolizes or declares the believer's death to the old life and new birth to a new life. Many wrongfully think that it is the act itself that saves or is necessary. People baptize with water, but God baptizes with His Spirit.
 

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You get baptized in the name of the Father when He chooses you and grants you the repentance necessary to turn to Him for forgiveness. You get baptized in the name of the Son when you put your trust in the Father's plan for the forgiveness of sins through Jesus Christ. You get baptized in the name of the Holy Spirit when you are born again and receive the Holy Spirit of the Father and Son who work in your heart and mind to perfect you by filling you with the same love that they share so that we can be One with them and will be obeying the Spirit of the Law given by Jesus which is to love God first and everyone else ( including enemies ) as we love ourselves. All three have a part in our salvation but the one baptism is the baptism in the name of the Father. The other two baptisms are a consequence to those the Father chooses. The great commission in Matthew says to go out and preach or teach all nations and it is through this teaching that people get baptized automatically. Water baptism was instituted in Leviticus where a list of all the ways that a Jew becomes spiritually unclean and the necessity of getting spiritually clean by the washing with water. It is still a Jewish practice today and is usually done before a marriage or other special occasions in order to achieve God's blessing. That is why Jews from all over went to John's baptism. They wanted to get spiritually cleansed in order to get God's blessings. They declared their uncleanliness and repented of their sins. We have to remember that the first Christians were practicing Jews and were still in the mindset of Jewish laws and traditions. John clearly states that he baptizes one way ( with water ), but someone else is going to baptize a different way (with the Holy Spirit). In Acts the disciples of John did not receive the gift of the Holy Spirit until Jesus was preached to them. It is through preaching that people get baptized and it happens automatically ( not with water ). Water baptism does not save, but there is a believer's baptism with water which illustrates or symbolizes or declares the believer's death to the old life and new birth to a new life. Many wrongfully think that it is the act itself that saves or is necessary. People baptize with water, but God baptizes with His Spirit.
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You get baptized, immersed in water ONCE. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19) or in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38) makes no difference because by saying "in the name of", youre really saying by the authority of. And yes, its by immersion in water, and when you do that you receive gift of the Holy Ghost per Acts 2:38.
 

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There is baptism once into Christ, as we are automatically in Christ and believers when we come to him with the repentant faith. We are then to take action for outward baptism, with water where it can be available, more of it where enough and it can be baptism with submersion, one time as the believer we would be. So, infant baptism is not that, neither was the baptism I had in the Catholic church when I was ten or so. I was a believer with repentant faith later than that, though I had faith and believed things back then.
 

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Acts 22:16 . . Arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on
the name of the Lord.

If Christian baptism washes away sins up that point, then what washes them
away afterwards?
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There is baptism once into Christ, as we are automatically in Christ and believers when we come to him with the repentant faith. We are then to take action for outward baptism, with water where it can be available, more of it where enough and it can be baptism with submersion, one time as the believer we would be. So, infant baptism is not that, neither was the baptism I had in the Catholic church when I was ten or so. I was a believer with repentant faith later than that, though I had faith and believed things back then.
We're baptized into Christ as the scriptures clearly say. It's the only way according to scripture that you can become a part of the body of Christ; not by belief, not by faith, not by repentance, but by water immersion.
 

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op: One Baptism?

Q: How, Exactly Is One [ Spiritual inward ] Baptism
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another water [ outward ] baptism
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One Baptism? Wouldn't that be Mathematically Correct = TWO baptisms?
 

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...not by belief, not by faith, not by repentance, but by water immersion.
In order to be baptized into Christ, one must first believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (belief or faith) and one must first repent (repentance). Water baptism follows but does not lead to salvation.
 

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One Baptism? Wouldn't that be Mathematically Correct = TWO baptisms?
You continue to mistake Spirit baptism (the one baptism in context) with water baptism. So yes, there are indeed two baptisms as seen in Acts chapter 2. And that has not ever changed.
 

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In order to be baptized into Christ, one must first believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (belief or faith) and one must first repent (repentance). Water baptism follows but does not lead to salvation.
It takes all that I mentioned; not one element, but all. Belief and confession of belief, faith, repentance, and finally, baptism into Christ.
 

FredVB

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We're baptized into Christ as the scriptures clearly say. It's the only way according to scripture that you can become a part of the body of Christ; not by belief, not by faith, not by repentance, but by water immersion.
What would you call the body of Christ? There is one baptism, it is spiritual in nature because every believer is with repentant faith and is in Christ, since each came to Christ, they all have this baptism. The command for baptism was the command to Go and baptize those of every nation, those ones coming to Christ, and those who do submit to that outward expression with water used when it's available being baptized are not the ones fulfilling the command for that. There are a few without the baptism of water who still have the one baptism, the thief who was dying on a cross next to Jesus and repented is an example for that.