TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!

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Cameron143

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Kroogz said:
Gen3:
Cursed is the ground because of you;

With [h]hard labor you shall eat from it

All the days of your life.

18“Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;

Yet you shall eat the plants of the field;

19By the sweat of your face

You shall eat bread,

Until you return to the ground,

Because from it you were taken;

For you are dust,

And to dust you shall return.”


Rev 22~~1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. 5And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of
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I get the connection. Is that the only connection? What and who ended the curses? When did it occur?
 
Thunderrr-mental

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@Cameron143 I'm not get any answers, I'll ask you.

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Question on this revelation as you can see Mathew 7;15 is tied in with rev 13;11

Why would Jesus need to warn people of false prophets coming in the future of tribulation if it was not for all 🤔

According to rapture belief Jesus would be preaching to demons would you agree
 
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Cameron143 said:
Satan falling from heaven was a non human thing.
It's a well thought out chart, but it presupposes your understanding?
Do you believe the book of Revelation is chronological?
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No, I do not believe that Revelation is straight through in chronological order.

On my events chart, I go through the 7 years along the course of events. Follow the red line from upper left to lower right. I annotate the appropriate scriptures for each event.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
@Cameron143 I'm not get any answers, I'll ask you.

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Question on this revelation as you can see Mathew 7;15 is tied in with rev 13;11

Why would Jesus need to warn people of false prophets coming in the future of tribulation if it was not for all 🤔

According to rapture belief Jesus would be preaching to demons would you agree
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The language is similar and may be related. But the audience Jesus is almost always speaking to is 1st century Jews. As I believe this is largely true of the book of Revelation, your question depends on who you mean by all. All 1st century Jews in or around Jerusalem? Or all people at a future time?
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
So no only a idiot heretic would ask this question.
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Oh but you are indeed correct. Tragically and unfortunately are many many idiots heretics and apostates on this thread who DO belive that the people and the nation of Israel HAVE been extinguished in terms of God's love, mercy and plan for their redemption.

Furthermore it is invariably the idiots heretics and apostates who broach the "Israel has been kicked to the curb forever in 70 A.D." topic to begin with. I am merely doing my duty in urgently responding and proving otherwise.

And what is it exactly that you're doing again?
 
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douggg said:
No, I do not believe that Revelation is straight through in chronological order.

On my events chart, I go through the 7 years along the course of events. Follow the red line from upper left to lower right. I annotate the appropriate scriptures for each event.
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I'll look at it later. I appreciate you patiently answering my questions. Only 1 more for now:
Given the time frame established in Revelation 1...
Verse 1...come to pass shortl...
Verse 3...at hand...
Verse 7...those who pierced him see...
...why do you understand the book of Revelation to be referring to events 2000 years removed?
 
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Look at the screen shot again @cameron.

Who is Jesus warning about future false profits disguised as the beast in rev 13:11

Is Jesus warning His people or demons ?.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Satan falling from heaven was a non human thing.
It's a well thought out chart, but it presupposes your understanding?
Do you believe the book of Revelation is chronological?
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Yeah you're full of questions aren't you buddy? Quixotically when the accurate and correct answers are provided, you comprehensively reject them over and over again.

I thank God that is not my problem.
 
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cv5 said:
Oh but you are indeed correct. Tragically and unfortunately are many many idiots heretics and apostates on this thread who DO belive that the people and the nation of Israel HAVE been extinguished in terms of God's love, mercy and plan for their redemption.

Furthermore it is invariably the idiots heretics and apostates who broach the "Israel has been kicked to the curb forever in 70 A.D." topic to begin with. I am merely doing my duty in urgently responding and proving otherwise.

And what is it exactly that you're doing again?
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sir I'm far more quicker in the brain than you'll ever be.
 
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cv5 said:
Yeah you're full of questions aren't you buddy? Quixotically when the accurate and correct answers are provided, you comprehensively reject them over and over again.

I thank God that is not my problem.
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If I remember correctly, Pharisees were often found publicly thanking God they were not like those who went home justified.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
so is denial of your own behaviour
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And who are you again? Captain of the thread police farce ROFL?

Anyhoo.......have fun playing pattycake with your Israel denying buddy @Cameron143. You deserve a friend like him.

Gotta go I have important things to take care of.
 
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Cameron143 said:
I'll look at it later. I appreciate you patiently answering my questions. Only 1 more for now:
Given the time frame established in Revelation 1...
Verse 1...come to pass shortl...
Verse 3...at hand...
Verse 7...those who pierced him see...
...why do you understand the book of Revelation to be referring to events 2000 years removed?
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Verse 1 must shortly come to pass - shortly from God's perspective. Living at the time of John, a person would probably think differently, i.e. shortly from their perspective. In retrospect, after 2000 years - it means from God's perspective.

Verse 3 the time is at hand - for people who read Revelation in earnest, the time is at hand to live their lives in faith of what would someday take place.

Verse 7 those who pierced him - the people of the prince to come, the Roman army of the fourth kingdom. End times fourth kingdom is manifest as the EU. To see Jesus coming in the clouds in Revelation 1:7.

Jesus coming in the clouds is in Matthew 24:30, after the gospel of the kingdom has been preach to all nations in Matthew 24:14. And in the generation of the parable of the fig tree. So it turns out to be 2000 years from the time John received Revelation.
 
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cv5 said:
And who are you again? Captain of the thread police farce ROFL?

Anyhoo.......have fun playing pattycake with your Israel denying buddy @Cameron143. You deserve a friend like him.

Gotta go I have important things to take care of.
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no I'm the captain of Observation, on how much of a cracked egg you are. 😊

I've got a guitar to, right now I'm stringing some chords to blow all your cobwebs into oblivion.

Especially your latest conspiracy in this post,

but nice try dip stick 😋
 
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