Question for Sabbath keepers

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
S

shiner500

Guest
#1
Do you think it is acceptable to break the Sabbath(by traveling more than 3000 feet) in order to go to Church?
The closest Church that meets on the Sabbath is a Messianic Jewish congregation and its not that close to where I live
 
L

Laodicea

Guest
#2
Do you think it is acceptable to break the Sabbath(by traveling more than 3000 feet) in order to go to Church?
The closest Church that meets on the Sabbath is a Messianic Jewish congregation and its not that close to where I live
Traveling to worship God is not a sin in fact God wants us to worship Him as a congregation on sabbath.
 
Dec 19, 2009
27,513
128
0
71
#3
Do you think it is acceptable to break the Sabbath(by traveling more than 3000 feet) in order to go to Church?
The closest Church that meets on the Sabbath is a Messianic Jewish congregation and its not that close to where I live
I think the Sabbath was made for our benefit. We need a day’s rest during the week. That doesn’t mean we have to lie in bed for twenty-four hours. I go to church on Sunday and try to have fun the rest of the day.
 

gotime

Senior Member
Mar 3, 2011
3,537
88
48
#4
I don't think its a sin to travel to church on the Sabbath. I assume you are speaking of the Biblical Sabbath and not the common day of worship for most Christians today. Jesus made the Sabbath for man to be a blessing not a curse. we should not add rules to the Sabbath that the bible has not given.

Blessings.
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
27,214
164
63
#5
Do you think it is acceptable to break the Sabbath(by traveling more than 3000 feet) in order to go to Church?
The closest Church that meets on the Sabbath is a Messianic Jewish congregation and its not that close to where I live
what does THE LAW say?
does the LAW say it is acceptable?

and, isn't one to stay INDOORS on the Sabbath according to LAW?

could someone post the LAW on the Sabbath plz?
 
L

Laodicea

Guest
#6
what does THE LAW say?
does the LAW say it is acceptable?

and, isn't one to stay INDOORS on the Sabbath according to LAW?

could someone post the LAW on the Sabbath plz?
The sabbath is a day for worship
Revelation 14:7
(7) Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Exodus 20:11
(11) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


We do not work on sabbath so we can be free to spend a day with God.
Isaiah 66:23
(23) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Why wait for the new earth to worship God on sabbath why not do it now?

Isaiah 58:13-14
(13) If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
(14) Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Mark 2:23-28
(23) And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
(24) And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
(25) And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
(26) How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
(27) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
(28) Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Most of Jesus healing was done on sabbath the pharisees made the sabbath a burden but it is meant to be a day of delight and joy and worship and fellowship




 

musiclover123

Senior Member
Sep 6, 2009
133
0
16
32
#7
The Sabbath is something that we find as early as the second chapter of Genesis in the Bible.

1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Even so, there is no a commandment given to observe the Sabbath until God gave the Law to Moses who brought it to the Israelites. This is found in both Exodus and Deuteronomy.

Exodus 20
8 “ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Deuteronomy 5
12 ‘ Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the LORD your God commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your ox, nor your donkey, nor any of your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates, that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you. 15 And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day.

This commandment was part of what is the decalogue, or what Christians refer to as the 10 commandments today. Most Christians will agree that these 10 should be kept regardless of New and Old covenant relations, and nearly all of the 10 are mentioned at some point in the New Testament in regards of observing them. Particularly for the Sabbath Law, there tends to be disagreement on what it means to observe the Sabbath.

If we look in the New Testament, there is Scripture that deals with this.
Hebrews chapter 4 speaks of the Sabbath rest, and how those it was first preached too didn't fully enter in the rest because of disobedience. It then says

9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

Collosians 2:16-17 also says
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

It seems to be pretty clear that these things that were in the Law and dealt with the physical, such as regulations for food and for keeping certain days, were but a shadow of Christ. Christ fulfilled the need to keep these things in the physical, and allowed us to take on His righteousness in him so we would not have to try and keep them ourselves.
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
27,214
164
63
#8
The Sabbath is something that we find as early as the second chapter of Genesis in the Bible.

1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Even so, there is no a commandment given to observe the Sabbath until God gave the Law to Moses who brought it to the Israelites. This is found in both Exodus and Deuteronomy.

Exodus 20
8 “ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Deuteronomy 5
12 ‘ Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the LORD your God commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your ox, nor your donkey, nor any of your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates, that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you. 15 And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day.

This commandment was part of what is the decalogue, or what Christians refer to as the 10 commandments today. Most Christians will agree that these 10 should be kept regardless of New and Old covenant relations, and nearly all of the 10 are mentioned at some point in the New Testament in regards of observing them. Particularly for the Sabbath Law, there tends to be disagreement on what it means to observe the Sabbath.

If we look in the New Testament, there is Scripture that deals with this.
Hebrews chapter 4 speaks of the Sabbath rest, and how those it was first preached too didn't fully enter in the rest because of disobedience. It then says

9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

Collosians 2:16-17 also says
16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

It seems to be pretty clear that these things that were in the Law and dealt with the physical, such as regulations for food and for keeping certain days, were but a shadow of Christ. Christ fulfilled the need to keep these things in the physical, and allowed us to take on His righteousness in him so we would not have to try and keep them ourselves.
SEVENTH DAY SABBATH LAWS - NEVER CHANGED.

Do no work: Ex 31:15
kindle no fire for heat: Ex 35:3
Gather not sticks for fuel: Num 15:32
buy no goods: Neh 10:31; 13:15-22; 28:9-10
stay in one place: Ex 16:29; Acts 1:12
carry no burdens: Jer 17:21-22
Death to violators: Ex 31:12; Num 15:32-36
strangers within their gates forced to keep: Ex 20:10

God said NO work. none.
STAY INSIDE. are you going to church or leaving your house at all? then you're breaking Sabbath.
and if you're not killing neighbours who do so, you're breaking Sabbath.
 
Jul 3, 2011
2,417
5
0
#9
Do you think it is acceptable to break the Sabbath(by traveling more than 3000 feet) in order to go to Church?
The closest Church that meets on the Sabbath is a Messianic Jewish congregation and its not that close to where I live
Those that keep the Sabbath should do it out of love for Jesus not out of religious duty. Legalism is not a good thing.
 
A

AnandaHya

Guest
#10
SEVENTH DAY SABBATH LAWS - NEVER CHANGED.

Do no work: Ex 31:15
kindle no fire for heat: Ex 35:3
Gather not sticks for fuel: Num 15:32
buy no goods: Neh 10:31; 13:15-22; 28:9-10
stay in one place: Ex 16:29; Acts 1:12
carry no burdens: Jer 17:21-22
Death to violators: Ex 31:12; Num 15:32-36
strangers within their gates forced to keep: Ex 20:10

God said NO work. none.
STAY INSIDE. are you going to church or leaving your house at all? then you're breaking Sabbath.
and if you're not killing neighbours who do so, you're breaking Sabbath.
John 5:9-11
New King James Version (NKJV)
9 And immediately the man was made well, took up his bed, and walked.
And that day was the Sabbath. 10 The Jews therefore said to him who was cured, “It is the Sabbath; it is not lawful for you to carry your bed.”
11 He answered them, “He who made me well said to me, ‘Take up your bed and walk.’”
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
12,668
1,098
113
#11
Well, let's just be real about this... If you were to literaly keep the no work on the saabath law....You cant take up an offering, because passing the plate is work. You cant get a chair for a guest, cant serve food... the pastor cant even preach,,, cause all that is doing work..everyone would just go to church and sit there like ''YEP''
 
Jul 3, 2011
2,417
5
0
#12
Well, let's just be real about this... If you were to literaly keep the no work on the saabath law....You cant take up an offering, because passing the plate is work. You cant get a chair for a guest, cant serve food... the pastor cant even preach,,, cause all that is doing work..everyone would just go to church and sit there like ''YEP''
Dude, we are discussing the Saturday Sabbath of God.
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
12,668
1,098
113
#13
Saturday, Sunday,,the important thing is that we respect the Sabath. What day we do it is irrelavent, To say that someone is wrong for having sabath on a particular day.. that is a nit picking spirit
 

musiclover123

Senior Member
Sep 6, 2009
133
0
16
32
#14
I'm still wondering how the verse that plainly says 'For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.'

I also tend to wonder what part of the world 'fulfilled' people don't understand..
 
Jul 3, 2011
2,417
5
0
#15
Saturday, Sunday,,the important thing is that we respect the Sabath. What day we do it is irrelavent, To say that someone is wrong for having sabath on a particular day.. that is a nit picking spirit
Well God said it was on the 7th day, so I guess He was a real nic picker huh?
 
I

Israel

Guest
#18
What day is the 7th day?
By the image or by the Spirit? We must also remember that all males in Israel are to be circumcised on the eighth day or be cut off from among his people. Again, by this commandment quite a few people are in trouble if we judge by the image. It is a shadow of the grand purpose of God.
 
L

Laodicea

Guest
#20
SEVENTH DAY SABBATH LAWS - NEVER CHANGED.

Do no work: Ex 31:15
kindle no fire for heat: Ex 35:3
Gather not sticks for fuel: Num 15:32
buy no goods: Neh 10:31; 13:15-22; 28:9-10
stay in one place: Ex 16:29; Acts 1:12
carry no burdens: Jer 17:21-22
Death to violators: Ex 31:12; Num 15:32-36
strangers within their gates forced to keep: Ex 20:10

God said NO work. none.
STAY INSIDE. are you going to church or leaving your house at all? then you're breaking Sabbath.
and if you're not killing neighbours who do so, you're breaking Sabbath.
Exodus 16:26-30
(26) Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
(27) And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
(28) And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
(29) See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
(30) So the people rested on the seventh day.


They were not to go out and gather the manna you need to read the other verses around it. God wants us to worship him on sabbath to do good, you sound like the Jews