TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!
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I refer you to the actual scholars such as @TheDivineWatermark
I seem to be mostly comic relief, and mostly lame most of the time.
I seem to be mostly comic relief, and mostly lame most of the time.
Look man.....you are hopeless. Seriously. A lost cause.
You can only perform defibrillation so many times on a patient before they throw the sheet over the corpse. So my main intention in engaging with you is to prevent MORE eschatological heart attacks in the viewing audience who may be seduced into indulging in your artery-clogging heresies.
You can only perform defibrillation so many times on a patient before they throw the sheet over the corpse. So my main intention in engaging with you is to prevent MORE eschatological heart attacks in the viewing audience who may be seduced into indulging in your artery-clogging heresies.
I suspect it is to promote yourself and boost your ego. You are full of blather but can't answer simple questions. When you do answer, you hide behind a wall of text and can't even explain it in simple language. Further, you employ insulting language which is contrary to the law of love.
In the very recent past, I have asked you three simple questions. Crickets. If your heart were set to help people, you would be helping.
In the very recent past, I have asked you three simple questions. Crickets. If your heart were set to help people, you would be helping.
maybe but you know he did then go on to say he could tare it down. Obviously the Jews took that as meaning there temple.
And Christians feal he wasn't taking about that temple but I'm not sure.
I believe he was taking about two temples.
Meaning he was going to destroy there temple and build a new one.
Also we have to look at God's character here and personality.
His word demands authority and when he says something he means it.
The fact that he flipped the tables over
Called it a house of thiefs
Sent the Jews into exile
Abolished animal sacrifice
Replaced there temple with his temple
Replaced animal sacrifice with prayer sacrifice
All this authority says he ment what he ment.
No more animal sacrifice.
No more house of thiefs
His temple
His word his authority.
His new covenant
And Christians feal he wasn't taking about that temple but I'm not sure.
I believe he was taking about two temples.
Meaning he was going to destroy there temple and build a new one.
Also we have to look at God's character here and personality.
His word demands authority and when he says something he means it.
The fact that he flipped the tables over
Called it a house of thiefs
Sent the Jews into exile
Abolished animal sacrifice
Replaced there temple with his temple
Replaced animal sacrifice with prayer sacrifice
All this authority says he ment what he ment.
No more animal sacrifice.
No more house of thiefs
His temple
His word his authority.
His new covenant
so you see the parable to be about Old Testament isreals rejection of the messiah and the messiah therefore sending the gospel of the kingdom to all people beginning at Jerusalem ?
Are you this type of thing beginning to come to pass ?
“I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.
I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; a people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick; which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day. Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom, your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the LORD, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills: therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.
Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all. And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: that he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.”
Isaiah 65:1-9, 11-16 KJV
your seeing Israel’s repeated rejection of the ot prophets and then The messiah resulting in the gospel being opened up to all people now until the end ?
Also another inquiry what about the remnant of Israel that accepted Jesus and received the promise of the spirit you aren’t saying they are excluded right ?
Are you this type of thing beginning to come to pass ?
“I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name.
I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; a people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick; which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day. Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom, your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the LORD, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills: therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.
Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all. And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: that he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.”
Isaiah 65:1-9, 11-16 KJV
your seeing Israel’s repeated rejection of the ot prophets and then The messiah resulting in the gospel being opened up to all people now until the end ?
Also another inquiry what about the remnant of Israel that accepted Jesus and received the promise of the spirit you aren’t saying they are excluded right ?
i bet it’s just that you have a different opinion from those folks
Can you answer that be simple question ? where does the New Testament promise another temple before the end of the world ? It sure details the destruction of the one that stood in thier day nearly 2000 years ago but how come Jesus not any apostle ever says there will be a temple rebuilt in Jerusalem ?
I think that’s a really valid question as well as where does the Old Testament promise a temple other than the one God built would be rebuilt for a third time before the end of the world ?
i dont think anyone can show those scriptures it would have to be just an obscure verse and the. Someone’s long detailed I interpretation of what’s going to happen but the Bible just doesn’t say that I think that’s a valid argument to say it may not be going to be rebuilt given we are in a biblical discussion forum
surely if somethings coming it’s going to be clearly written in scripture like the rest of it is why wouldn’t there be any explainations in the Bible about the earthly temple that’s gonna be built in the end ?
i wish someone would show me those scriptures because if they are there , I’d like to know
Can you answer that be simple question ? where does the New Testament promise another temple before the end of the world ? It sure details the destruction of the one that stood in thier day nearly 2000 years ago but how come Jesus not any apostle ever says there will be a temple rebuilt in Jerusalem ?
I think that’s a really valid question as well as where does the Old Testament promise a temple other than the one God built would be rebuilt for a third time before the end of the world ?
i dont think anyone can show those scriptures it would have to be just an obscure verse and the. Someone’s long detailed I interpretation of what’s going to happen but the Bible just doesn’t say that I think that’s a valid argument to say it may not be going to be rebuilt given we are in a biblical discussion forum
surely if somethings coming it’s going to be clearly written in scripture like the rest of it is why wouldn’t there be any explainations in the Bible about the earthly temple that’s gonna be built in the end ?
i wish someone would show me those scriptures because if they are there , I’d like to know