My Timeline beginning with Daniel 12:11, the daily sacrifice being taken away.

[10-22-27]

I have a question concerning the following verse. Revelation 13:7, "And it was given unto him (antichrist) to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:"

Who do you say these saints are that this antichrist is going to overcome?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

You wrote, "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproach and everlasting shame."

That's Revelation 20.

Yes,that Daniels people (thy people)in revelation 20:4


Daniel 12:1-2

And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproach and everlasting shame.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I have a question concerning the following verse. Revelation 13:7, "And it was given unto him (antichrist) to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:"

Who do you say these saints are that this antichrist is going to overcome?

They are the same saints that are killed in Daniel 11:33-35 and the mentioned being killed in the Olivet discourse.They are christians in the land of Israel who are killed by the Israeli government.
It does not take place till the second beast arrives in Israel.

Revelation 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.


Its like a repeat of the same persecution that took place 2000 years ago in Israel.Jesus gives these saints complete instruction what to do and say during this 3.5 years in the gospel. The same amount of time Jesus preached the gospel and was killed in Israel.3.5 years.

 

[10-22-27]

They are the same saints that are killed in Daniel 11:33-35 and the mentioned being killed in the Olivet discourse.They are christians in the land of Israel who are killed by the Israeli government.
It does not take place till the second beast arrives in Israel.

Revelation 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.


Its like a repeat of the same persecution that took place 2000 years ago in Israel.Jesus gives these saints complete instruction what to do and say during this 3.5 years in the gospel. The same amount of time Jesus preached the gospel and was killed in Israel.3.5 years.

I'm going to wait for more responses.

 

[douggg]

Wow! sorry, to complicated, makes no sense, it's not the way I read it. Curious, where did you get this chart from.

I made the time line chart myself. Here is the same chart with less information, that you might find easier to understand.


11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

 

[douggg]

Wow! sorry, to complicated, makes no sense, it's not the way I read it. Curious, where did you get this chart from.

Here is another timeline chart of events that I made. The chart covers the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9.

Just follow the red line, beginning in the upper left, down to the lower right.

 

[douggg]

Here is another time line chart I made showing the time components of the seven years in Revelation. The dotted line is the base time-line, 7 years long (2520 days).

 

[10-22-27]

Here is another time line chart I made showing the time components of the seven years in Revelation. The dotted line is the base time-line, 7 years long (2520 days).



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So, you're saying the antichrist (first beast) will not be in the same time period (3 1/2 years) as the two witnesses? If that's not what you're saying, when will the first beast be revealed? I see the timeline you have for "42 months rule of the beast."

 

[10-22-27]

Douggg, I have another question for you. Like other prophesies, do you think that a short and a long prophesy is possible?

Now do you have any idea what the odds are of 1290 years from the daily sacrifice being taken away in 598B.C., and the Dome of the Rock being set up in in 692 A.D. are? Now throw in the 1335 years the prophesy ending in 2027 exactly 2000 years from Jesus' baptism in 27 A.D., Their staggering!

And from the fall of Adam in 4004 B.C. until 2027, exactly 6030 years. Also, there is the fulfilling of Hosea's prophesy in 5:15 and 6:2 of two days beginning in 31 A.D. when Jesus returned to heaven until 2031 A.D? exactly 2000 years.

If I'm wrong on all accounts, we would have a staggering number of coincidences, wouldn't you say?

 

[10-22-27]

Another thought because I understand the antichrist to be of Assyrian blood, (Iranian) why would he set up and image of himself in front of a Jewish Temple? No way! But if you think the antichrist is a Jew, that's different. But to say he's a Jew, you would have to hammer out a ton of scriptures.

 

[douggg]

So, you're saying the antichrist (first beast) will not be in the same time period (3 1/2 years) as the two witnesses? If that's not what you're saying, when will the first beast be revealed? I see the timeline you have for "42 months rule of the beast."

I am in the process of making a new thread for my charts - which when it is released, you can follow through those as a study on the end time events. I am waiting for the new thread to be approved.

Meanwhile, to keep things simple, may we call him "the person" ?



For most of the first half of the 7 years, the person will be in the role of being the Antichrist. Being the Antichrist is him being the King of Israel, as the Jews will mistakenly think he is their long awaited messiah. The Jews (Judaism) are looking for their messiah, someone other than Jesus.

While the Jews will be thinking he is their long awaited messiah - the two witnesses will be preaching to them - No, he is not ! Jesus is the messiah.

That goes on for around three years, when out of nowhere their though-to-be messiah stops the daily sacrifice and goes into the temple (to be built), sits in the holy of hollies chamber, claiming to have achieved God-hood. We don't have enough information to determine on exact day the person commits that act.

The person's act will mortify the Jews and they will renounce him as their messiah and King of Israel - ending the person's role as the Antichrist.

His new role will be the revealed man of sin.

God will have the person killed for his act (Ezekiel 28:1-10), assassinated. And after a short stint in hell, the person's soul will be cast out of hell, back into his lifeless body, as the world looks on dumbfounded that he has come back alive.

At that time of coming back to life, he becomes the beast role - i.e. the mortally wounded, but healed head in Revelation 13. The false prophet will have a statue image made of him and placed on the temple mount. On day 1185 of the timeline.

So we know because the image is made of the beast and setup on day 1185 - that he becomes the beast before then, but we can't determine the exact day on the timeline.

When the statue image is set up on the temple mount, the Jews begin to flee to the mountains, while the two witnesses battle the beast providing cover for them -for the last 75 days of their 1260 days time.

On day 1260, the beast kills the two witnesses, and begins his 42 months reign.

 

[douggg]

Douggg, I have another question for you. Like other prophesies, do you think that a short and a long prophesy is possible?

Now do you have any idea what the odds are of 1290 years from the daily sacrifice being taken away in 598B.C., and the Dome of the Rock being set up in in 692 A.D. are? Now throw in the 1335 years the prophesy ending in 2027 exactly 2000 years from Jesus' baptism in 27 A.D., Their staggering!

And from the fall of Adam in 4004 B.C. until 2027, exactly 6030 years. Also, there is the fulfilling of Hosea's prophesy in 5:15 and 6:2 of two days beginning in 31 A.D. when Jesus returned to heaven until 2031 A.D? exactly 2000 years.

If I'm wrong on all accounts, we would have a staggering number of coincidences, wouldn't you say?

I don't think the prophecies is years because in Daniel 12:8-9 it is for time of the end. Verse 4 seems to indicate the time of the end as our particular generation.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

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The Dome of the Rock and other muslim features will be removed following Gog/Magog to make way for a new Jewish temple.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

So, you're saying the antichrist (first beast) will not be in the same time period (3 1/2 years) as the two witnesses? If that's not what you're saying, when will the first beast be revealed? I see the timeline you have for "42 months rule of the beast."

You know it's a funny thing.The commands given by the two witnesses are the same commands given to the king of the norths armed forces.

I'm just saying.