The evil rapture and the evil evangelists. 👍

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is it just me who should have an opinion ?

Nope I recognise people can have an opinion

Just like you and your attempts to pxxx me off.
But no you won't pxxx me of

Did anyone say you could not have an opinion? Just if you want us to accept it as the truth, bring what is needed. If not, we can disagree with your opinion, as you are more than welcome to disagree with mine .

Yet it was not I who used these sources you have in this thread. They are yours. No names, no reference to the place or origin of information, and no organizations that are historically hostile to Christians or not Christian at all. Everyone has an opinion.

But I was long-suffering in providing you the reason I disagree with those opinions and provided bullet form reasons.

Take it or not. And I think you are very much PXXX off as you suggested you are not.

Truth stands, sir; opinions come and go.

 

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Did anyone say you could not have an opinion? Just if you want us to accept it as the truth, bring what is needed. If not, we can disagree with your opinion, as you are more than welcome to disagree with mine .

Yet it was not I who used these sources you have in this thread. They are yours. No names, no reference to the place or origin of information, and no organizations that are historically hostile to Christians or not Christian at all. Everyone has an opinion.

But I was long-suffering in providing you the reason I disagree with those opinions and provided bullet form reasons.

Take it or not. And I think you are very much PXXX off as you suggested you are not.

Truth stands, sir; opinions come and go.

look I ain't bothered about being peed of.

I ain't bothered if you think I'm trying to pee you off.

The truth is more important to me.

The first video I posted from the Qur'an looks like a popular place for Arabs who share the same opinion, the opinion of Jesus favouring one people over the next, is used in Judgement to favour an opinion. To then be used in other options about end times.

Thats what the videos demonstrate.

Same as the other videos are a popular belief amongst people.

Does it matter really if you can't search there credentials.


How do you know really whether the battle of all battles has not happened.

This is the point.

Or really how do you know it needs to happen or something that should happen or hasn't happened.

The only wise belief I can see is from the
Jewish rabbi that it may not need to happen.

This also supports a narrative that the anti Christ has been revealed John 1 and when Jesus identifed him in Mathew 4.

I'm sure your aware that most end times believes came from the old testament.

So why is it we should support the ideas of scholars from the book of revelations that suggest certain prophecies haven't been fulfilled when there is evidence to suggest some have.

When was the book of revelation introduced to the new testament do you know, as there looks like some valid challenges to that.

But I'm no scholar so I don't know about that idea

 

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OK, this is a good start,

I know the person's name and can check his credentials and education.


It was 100% spot on about Joseph and Jacob when they met after his being sold into slavery by his brother, and Jacob saw him for the first time, not noticing it was his son but an Egyptian Prince.

Identity! As a Hebrew, does that make this Teacher a Zionist? I can assure you He is not a Christian.

In the context of the video:

He did not quote Ezekiel, Daniel, or the Book of Revelation.

This man's hold to that the Massiah has not yet come, and He is looking to this day for that to happen.

The war that Ezekiel spoke about will happen. Man can't stop that unless the Anti-Christ will be seen as the Messiah by this type of teacher.

Rabbi Reuven Lauffer is not a Christian, nor is he saved.

He did not quote any of the New Testament, nor will he. He will not acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah.. yet.

well the Zionist part can be seen in that a great battle will take place in Isreal, and netanyahu refering to Palestine people as the amalek a story of evil people in the old testament.

 

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look I ain't bothered about being peed of.

I ain't bothered if you think I'm trying to pee you off.

"The truth is more important to me."

The first video I posted from the Qur'an looks like a popular place for Arabs who share the same opinion, the opinion of Jesus favouring one people over the next," is used in Judgement to favour an opinion. To then be used in other options about end times.

"Thats what the videos demonstrate."

Same as the other videos are "a popular belief amongst people."

"Does it matter really if you can't search there credentials."


""Does it matter really if you can't search there credentials."

"The only wise belief I can see is from the
Jewish rabbi that it may not need to happen.

This also supports a narrative that the anti Christ has been revealed John 1 and when Jesus identifed him in Mathew 4.

I'm sure your aware that most end times believes came from the old testament.

So why is it we should support the ideas of scholars from the book of revelations that suggest certain prophecies haven't been fulfilled when there is evidence to suggest some have.

When was the book of revelation introduced to the new testament do you know, as there looks like some valid challenges to that.

But I'm no scholar so I don't know about that idea

You have bloviated enough.

Everything you said here is of importance. I have tried to highlight or embolized with " " marks or in red.



Qestion to you: If the truth is important, what is the primary source of Truth, the Word of God or man ? Which should we go to first to look for truth?

Answer It is the Bible, the word of God from Genesis to Revelation. That is not an opinion. That is the truth and what the word of God teaches.

Qestion 2 to you: What sources from the Bible does The Word of God say that can help us in or along in all truth?


Answer:
The Holy Spirit John chapters 14 through 16 and the gifts of Christ to the Church in Eph chapter 4:11-17 the whole chapter should be read. But Pastors are there to help us as are teachers men and women of God who Know Jesus Christ as Lord but you must study the word of God as 2Tim chapter 2 and three show us.


You said :
"The first video I posted from the Qur'an looks like a popular place for Arabs who share the same opinion, the opinion of Jesus favouring one people over the next," is used in Judgement to favour an opinion. To then be used in other options about end times.

Answer

Posting from the Quran that assumes it shares the same truth as the Bible should not be the source of information we measure the Word of God by. It is to be the other way around. The opinion of the Quran is not the same as the Truth in the Word of God, from a Christian doctrine or understanding.

There are no other options for the "End Times in what is known as Eschatology. This Theology is from a Christian perspective. and the doctrine comes solely from the Authoritative inerrant word of God. Not the Quran, book of Mormon, kabbala, Torture Cookies, or Ms. Keloe's 1800 hotline message or personal prophecies.

You said :
"Same as the other videos are "a popular belief amongst people."

Answer:
Popular belief is not truth, for there are many of them, that One true God doesn't hold as popular in HIS word nor has he changed HIS mind on them.

You said:
"Does it matter really if you can't search there credentials."

Answer:

It does if you are trying to pass it off AS truth. HOW DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE BEEN DECEIVED?
If one is not well rooted in the Bible, the word of God, how do you defend what we know to be true over an opinion when the Word of God is the only Truth? You did not verify the source or person. Who is speaking? Really? That is immaturity.



You said :

"How do you know really whether the battle of all battles has not happened.
This is the point.
Or really how do you know it needs to happen or something that should happen or hasn't happened.
The only wise belief I can see is from the
Jewish rabbi that it may not need to happen. "

Answer:

1. read your bible and pray.
2. Read your bible and pray and go to a bible believing Church that preaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the only way, the only truth, and the only Life.

3. Anyone who denies Jesus Christ is not to be followed or listened to. I don't if they are Rabbi, Pastor, Teacher
, Democrat-Republican Tongues talking miracle workers.,


If You build your understanding without a foundation in the word of God, you will receive confusion. You will never come to understand everything on this side because we are imperfect and incapable in the flesh. But we do receive from the Lord , His word and The Holy Spirit more than enough to hold on to our faith. We can trust him and HIS word.


We are to know what to walk away from and discern by the light of His word, prayer, study, and the holy Spirit leading.

 

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well the Zionist part can be seen in that a great battle will take place in Isreal, and netanyahu refering to Palestine people as the amalek a story of evil people in the old testament.

I fully understand a jew today and Nayenyu's dislike of liberal Jews who are not ok with his making money. That being said.

Many secular Jews want a two-party state. God is not for it. Call them Zionist, whatever you like. God is not for it; HIS opinion is what matters. The day they were attacked, October 7th, there were gay weddings and drug sex raves happening during this time. Hamas came in undetected by the Number one Security force of a border in the world, some would. And raped women and children, cut off heads, and more evil than even liberal Jewish atheists took up arms and are in this fight.

God allowed that to happen. I believe America is next for their unwillingness to repent. We have sown to the wind and now will reap a whirlwind. And those who areand who are not "Zionist."

 

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You have bloviated enough.

Everything you said here is of importance. I have tried to highlight or embolized with " " marks or in red.



Qestion to you: If the truth is important, what is the primary source of Truth, the Word of God or man ? Which should we go to first to look for truth?

Answer It is the Bible, the word of God from Genesis to Revelation. That is not an opinion. That is the truth and what the word of God teaches.

Qestion 2 to you: What sources from the Bible does The Word of God say that can help us in or along in all truth?


Answer:
The Holy Spirit John chapters 14 through 16 and the gifts of Christ to the Church in Eph chapter 4:11-17 the whole chapter should be read. But Pastors are there to help us as are teachers men and women of God who Know Jesus Christ as Lord but you must study the word of God as 2Tim chapter 2 and three show us.


You said :
"The first video I posted from the Qur'an looks like a popular place for Arabs who share the same opinion, the opinion of Jesus favouring one people over the next," is used in Judgement to favour an opinion. To then be used in other options about end times.

Answer

Posting from the Quran that assumes it shares the same truth as the Bible should not be the source of information we measure the Word of God by. It is to be the other way around. The opinion of the Quran is not the same as the Truth in the Word of God, from a Christian doctrine or understanding.

There are no other options for the "End Times in what is known as Eschatology. This Theology is from a Christian perspective. and the doctrine comes solely from the Authoritative inerrant word of God. Not the Quran, book of Mormon, kabbala, Torture Cookies, or Ms. Keloe's 1800 hotline message or personal prophecies.

You said :
"Same as the other videos are "a popular belief amongst people."

Answer:
Popular belief is not truth, for there are many of them, that One true God doesn't hold as popular in HIS word nor has he changed HIS mind on them.

You said:
"Does it matter really if you can't search there credentials."

Answer:

It does if you are trying to pass it off AS truth. HOW DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE BEEN DECEIVED?
If one is not well rooted in the Bible, the word of God, how do you defend what we know to be true over an opinion when the Word of God is the only Truth? You did not verify the source or person. Who is speaking? Really? That is immaturity.



You said :

"How do you know really whether the battle of all battles has not happened.
This is the point.
Or really how do you know it needs to happen or something that should happen or hasn't happened.
The only wise belief I can see is from the
Jewish rabbi that it may not need to happen. "

Answer:

1. read your bible and pray.
2. Read your bible and pray and go to a bible believing Church that preaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the only way, the only truth, and the only Life.

3. Anyone who denies Jesus Christ is not to be followed or listened to. I don't if they are Rabbi, Pastor, Teacher
, Democrat-Republican Tongues talking miracle workers.,


If You build your understanding without a foundation in the word of God, you will receive confusion. You will never come to understand everything on this side because we are imperfect and incapable in the flesh. But we do receive from the Lord , His word and The Holy Spirit more than enough to hold on to our faith. We can trust him and HIS word.


We are to know what to walk away from and discern by the light of His word, prayer, study, and the holy Spirit leading.

well some good opinions there

What you believe to be true and what is true is more of a reason to want to know the truth.

But Obviously distinguishing what is true is done in many ways.

Truth can sound true because it can be of a popular narrative amongst the brethren, but as you know even they get things wrong.

Obviously truth comes by hearing the word, but obviously how you act upon that truth is an entirely different matter. And how you interpret someone is also a different matter

Now if I was to sit here and say there is absolutely no truth in lies, would that be lie ?

If I said the bible Is full of truth about lies would that be a lie.

So I'm pretty good on discerning for the truth, even better at receiving it and petty good at seeking it.

But as with truth come responsibility, to understand something, which is not lean on your own understanding of truth, or lies for that matter.

Now it has been said that seeking the truth about lies can lead to the truth,

I'm sure you being a pastor would understand that.

It can also lead to justice

By believing a lie sadly, can be the most deadly weapon there is, you could actually be spreading lies with a passion.

Did you ever seek a lie thinking it was a truth.

Did the truth ever seek you out and let you know what was true.

Well it's so easy to miss place what has been said and I'm not going to put right what you think I said or what you think I mean,

Because all tho your advice may be of good importance to someone else. It certainly doesn't mean thats the way in which you have chosen to see my ideas are correct or false.


Here lies another issue of truth

So what I advice is you knock and you seek and I hope the door will be opened to you.

 

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well some good opinions there

What you believe to be true and what is true is more of a reason to want to know the truth.

But Obviously distinguishing what is true is done in many ways.

Truth can sound true because it can be of a popular narrative amongst the brethren, but as you know even they get things wrong.

Obviously truth comes by hearing the word, but obviously how you act upon that truth is an entirely different matter. And how you interpret someone is also a different matter

Now if I was to sit here and say there is absolutely no truth in lies, would that be lie ?

If I said the bible Is full of truth about lies would that be a lie.

So I'm pretty good on discerning for the truth, even better at receiving it and petty good at seeking it.

But as with truth come responsibility, to understand something, which is not lean on your own understanding of truth, or lies for that matter.

Now it has been said that seeking the truth about lies can lead to the truth,

I'm sure you being a pastor would understand that.

It can also lead to justice

By believing a lie sadly, can be the most deadly weapon there is, you could actually be spreading lies with a passion.

Did you ever seek a lie thinking it was a truth.

Did the truth ever seek you out and let you know what was true.

Well it's so easy to miss place what has been said and I'm not going to put right what you think I said or what you think I mean,

Because all this your advice may be of food importance to someone else. It certainly doesn't mean that the way I'm which you have chosen to see my ideas are correct


Here lies another issue of truth

So what I advice is you knock and you seek and I hope the door will be opened to you.

I disagree. The truth for those who are Christians is the Lord Jesus Christ and the word of God.

Every other professing truth, opinion, or application must be measured by the word of God from Genesis to Revelation.

Jesus Christ is the truth. because HE is the word John chapter one, verses 1-3

He is the foundation we build on, and the bible,


Under that, you can place :

• historical narratives
• archeological findings
• geographical location
• theories/ hypothesis
• opinions
• youtube social media
• fortune cookies

 

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I disagree. The truth for those who are Christians is the Lord Jesus Christ and the word of God.

Every other professing truth, opinion, or application must be measured by the word of God from Genesis to Revelation.

Jesus Christ is the truth. because HE is the word John chapter one, verses 1-3

He is the foundation we build on, and the bible,


Under that, you can place :

• historical narratives
• archeological findings
• geographical location
• theories/ hypothesis
• opinions
• youtube social media
• fortune cookies

Well sir just about anyone can speak the truth but does that make it true. Or them true

Since I've been a member here I have seen many statements posted that are just not true.

What I have found is the truth Hurts.

 

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Well sir just about anyone can speak the truth but does that make it true. Or them true

Since I've been a member here I have seen many statements posted that are just not true.

What I have found is the truth Hurts.

Don't ignore the context of what I said is "Truth."

You must deal with that.

I said Jesus is the Only Truth, You agree or not?

and HIS word, which is the word of God. John, chapter One, and many other verses testify to that very Truth. Do you agree or not?

 

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Don't ignore the context of what I said is "Truth."

You must deal with that.

I said Jesus is the Only Truth, You agree or not?

and HIS word, which is the word of God. John, chapter One, and many other verses testify to that very Truth. Do you agree or not?

why would I not agree Jesus is the way and the truth.

Why would you need to ask me.

Did Jesus speak about lies from other people and put them right.

Well did Jesus love the lying Jews

Surely if Jesus can handle lies surely we should be able to would you agree

 

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why would I not agree Jesus is the way and the truth.

Why would you need to ask me.

Did Jesus speak about lies from other people and put them right.

Well did Jesus love the lying Jews

Surely if Jesus can handle lies surely we should be able to would you agree

Why would you not say it? You have not once seen in the communication even provided to me that you believe or have the understanding of the Authoritative word of God and Jesus as the Foundation to build on.

From your post, I would have to ask you who Jesu is? Yes, we do need to ask. The gospel is one that confronts sin and people. but it is not confrontational.

 

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why would I not agree Jesus is the way and the truth.

Why would you need to ask me.

Did Jesus speak about lies from other people and put them right.

Well did Jesus love the lying Jews

Surely if Jesus can handle lies surely we should be able to would you agree

I am waiting for my answers.

I answered all of your in the thread posting today and in-depth.


You will answer mine, please, or I will have no other choice to
1. think you are not a Christian
2. a troll
3. suffering from some cognitive issues.

You have not established here with me any form of Biblical understanding, only unfounded opinions and YouTube threads. I say that respectfully. After all I have provided, you have fallen way short. I do not consider it a waste of my time to do other than seeing it, yet you and I are about done. Answer my questions. Please.

 

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Why would you not say it? You have not once seen in the communication even provided to me that you believe or have the understanding of the Authoritative word of God and Jesus as the Foundation to build on.

From your post, I would have to ask you who Jesu is? Yes, we do need to ask. The gospel is one that confronts sin and people. but it is not confrontational.

sir it is impossible to talk to you directly in words because feeling is important.

Would you agree.

To find out the truth do you agree you have to learn from the lies to separate the goats from the sheep, or the wheat from the tares.

Sir the truth is Isreal as of this moment, Isreal has been charged with genocide.

And upto now many people have supported Isreal.

Now as of this moment I'm still in the narrative for Isreal to prove there innocence for the worst crime in the world.

Would you agree I have Tolerance

 

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I am waiting for my answers.

I answered all of your in the thread posting today and in-depth.


You will answer mine, please, or I will have no other choice to
1. think you are not a Christian
2. a troll
3. suffering from some cognitive issues.

You have not established here with me any form of Biblical understanding, only unfounded opinions and YouTube threads. I say that respectfully. After all I have provided, you have fallen way short. I do not consider it a waste of my time to do other than seeing it, yet you and I are about done. Answer my questions. Please.

see now your getting personal again.

Remember when I said its yourself who gets upset.

Well now you're resorting to shutting the lid on an important discussion with name calling and questioning my faith in Jesus.

Well sir this is not a good way to behave

 

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sir it is impossible to talk to you directly in words because feeling is important.

Would you agree.

To find out the truth do you agree you have to learn from the lies to separate the goats from the sheep, or the wheat from the tares.

Sir the truth is Isreal as of this moment, Isreal has been charged with genocide.

And upto now many people have supported Isreal.

Now at of this moment I'm still in the narrative for Isreal to prove there innocence for the worst crime in the world.

Would you agree I have Tolerance

That is a ridiculous excuse to answer my question about Who Jesus is to you. Then you try to allegorize with the above thread
and in some way patronize me.

 

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That is a ridiculous excuse to answer my question about Who Jesus is to you. Then you try to allegorize with the above thread
and in some way patronize me.

I have said many times who Jesus is to me.

Remember Jesus said to king Herod if you say I am

 

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see now your getting personal again.

Remember when I said its yourself who gets upset.

Well now you're resorting to shutting the lid on an important discussion with name calling and questioning my faith in Jesus.

Well sir this is not a good way to behave

If you can't tell me Who Jesus Christ is to you, which is a basic question for all in a public forum, then you are not serious.

 

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see now your getting personal again.

Remember when I said its yourself who gets upset.

Well now you're resorting to shutting the lid on an important discussion with name calling and questioning my faith in Jesus.

Well sir this is not a good way to behave

I'm asking you who is Jesus to you.

 

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I have said many times who Jesus is to me.

Remember Jesus said to king Herod if you say I am

I did nor ask King Herod I asked you .

 

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I'm asking you who is Jesus to you.

Well surely you would know the answer to who jesus is to a christian